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Re: Oak Lawn

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 11 Mar 2020 10:17

Hannibal Lecter wrote:
cowboyeagle05 wrote:Four lanes back up more traffic during rush hour than three lanes with a center turn lane would.
Get stuck behind a DART bus on Matilda from Ross Avenue to Mockingbird and see if you still think that.


Try being stuck behind cars trying to turn on Throckmorton from one of the middle lanes on Cedar Springs Road during rush hour or while the bars are decently busy. It's called traffic if you don't want to be in it then get out of your car. We all get in frustrating traffic patterns but I would much prefer to trade a three-lane Cedar Springs Road with a center turn lane over the high speed dangerous 4 lane version we have now. I don't recommend bike lanes on Cedar Springs but would like to see better on-street parking arrangements and more corner bump-outs for pedestrian crossings.

The ones the city built are a victim of a few problems they narrow the intersection on Throckmorton but since cars are still racing down Cedar Springs and barreling around those corners there is a definite issue. Maybe if we had proceeded with the traffic slowing on Cedar Springs as well this incompatibility wouldn't be as much of an issue. They removed the bump-out this week on the Italia corner to give cars turning a bit more room to swing around those corners and now Hunky's has three on-street spots that are protected by a bump-out on Throckmorton to replace the taken away parking spots at the corner.

I understand why people don't want to trust the city I tend to swing conservative myself against government decision making but people have to realize their meddling is just as problematic here. The city proposed some real solutions and everyone said basically F*** you at all the proposals cause everyone is a traffic engineer including myself except apparently the people that work in the actual field and went to school for it...not to mention most business owners like those in any of these neighborhoods believe in myths about how they get consumer traffic. Most say give me a giant parking lot and a highspeed roadway and I'll make money.

I honestly would have liked to see a Better Block event here as the city did on Knox to demonstrate how traffic patterns could be modified and wouldn't bring the sky falling down as everyone seems to always proclaim. The problem is Oak Lawn is an active voice community who is always on the lookout for being the victim in any decision making for good reason. Oak Lawn also has an active voting block that politicians try to make happy on a constant basis so the people hired to create logical solutions are constantly undercut by emotional political interference. Instead, we get Frankenstein solutions that are children's band-aids rather than a cure.
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Re: Oak Lawn

Postby Cbdallas » 12 Mar 2020 11:46

Sadly because it is still all about the cars and where to park them. This should have been guided by pedestrian goals not traffic goals.

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Re: Oak Lawn

Postby R1070 » 12 Mar 2020 11:54

I always found the deliveries excuse funny because most of the businesses have adequate space in back or side street access for deliveries.

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Re: Oak Lawn

Postby j_d_p » 12 Mar 2020 14:06

The former Cedar Grove spaces looks closer to opening. Looks like a fresh coat of pain has been done inside as well as some additional dry wall work. Looks very nice.

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Re: Oak Lawn

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 12 Mar 2020 14:29

Cbdallas wrote:Sadly because it is still all about the cars and where to park them. This should have been guided by pedestrian goals not traffic goals.


That's because the design is grounded in fear by the local businesses not just the bars either. They are all afraid that if the city makes the street narrower or traffic gets backed up from construction they will all close. In an area that has been gay-oriented and cultured for decades many fear if things close we will lose the gaybourhood and it will become a boring average area to blend in with everything else in Dallas. Which is a real fear I can understand but final decision making was on that fear and not on solutions to that fear. Now we have an area that got band-aid fixes rather than solutions and a neighborhood still declining due to the encroaching neighboring development and the march of equality that has left the core LGBTQ leaders without followers cause many of my gay friends believe the gaybourhood is not needed anymore so why worry about it. Fear of losing power is a powerful motivator as well. I'll try to get off my soapbox for now. 8-)
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Re: Oak Lawn

Postby R1070 » 24 Mar 2020 13:53

The office supply store on OL Ave is pretty much a goner.

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Re: Oak Lawn

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 24 Mar 2020 14:21

Well, we will either get a new apartment building underway in time for the end of the outbreak or a parking lot for the hotel next door until the economy recovers from almost a total stop.
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