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Westmoreland Industrial District

Postby lakewoodhobo » 30 Aug 2017 11:22

There's an industrial district (about 155 acres) just south of the Westmoreland DART Station that should be master-planned for a massive mixed-use TOD. One thing that's really unique about the site are the old railroad rights of way that could be turned into trails, especially since west of Westmoreland this same ROW will become the Chalk Hill Trail.

DART needs a major anchor for this end of the Red Line, and a mixed-income housing development with appropriate density would do a lot for ridership.


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Re: Westmoreland Industrial District

Postby tamtagon » 30 Aug 2017 12:02

dude, sweet

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Re: Westmoreland Industrial District

Postby lakewoodhobo » 13 Apr 2018 11:01

Little did I know that bcWorkshop had studied this area in 2016 and did a fantastic job of proposing a redevelopment plan for Westmoreland and several other stations.

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Re: Westmoreland Industrial District

Postby tamtagon » 13 Apr 2018 12:05

If city building had been the primary objective of HQ2, this would have been a great site proposal. Add to that longest of shots, Red Bird Airport could take over for Love Field, opening the gates to Middle Dallas while Oak Cliff takes over for downtown Fort Worth and Tolled-Frisco/Plano --- actually, with this longest of shots, the tollway is extended to Red Bird.

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If-only / What-if .....

Postby itsjrd1964 » 09 Sep 2018 22:35

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Just saw this earlier in a Facebook group. I know there are those who don't want tunnels, but if the Dallas and/or Fort Worth CBDs had this or something like it (the retail itself, or retail connected to office and/or hotel), wow. There'd be a lot to draw existing/new residents, as well as office workers, plus a (real) grocery store could go into a development like this also. Too bad we're seemingly on the downhill side of plentiful multi-storefront retail, but oh the possibilities!

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Re: If-only / What-if .....

Postby I45Tex » 10 Sep 2018 15:52

Maaaaaybe these days that could work, but didn't work in isolation. Tulsa built a nine-block complex with performing arts center, 700-seat movieplex with Dolby sound, fifty retailers and 10+ restaurants, plus office towers and hotels, to no avail: https://www.tulsaworld.com/blogs/news/t ... c6e26.html

Even walking capitals like Boston haven't generated too much recent residential demand from major urban malls like the Cambridgeside Galleria or from Copley Place-Prudential Center (which has a major grocer).

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Re: If-only / What-if .....

Postby ContriveDallasite » 11 Sep 2018 09:06

itsjrd1964 wrote:Image

Just saw this earlier in a Facebook group. I know there are those who don't want tunnels, but if the Dallas and/or Fort Worth CBDs had this or something like it (the retail itself, or retail connected to office and/or hotel), wow. There'd be a lot to draw existing/new residents, as well as office workers, plus a (real) grocery store could go into a development like this also. Too bad we're seemingly on the downhill side of plentiful multi-storefront retail, but oh the possibilities!


I think in the future this will be the only type of multi-store retail that will be viable. Tying shopping in to the urban day-to-day framework instead of making retail an isolated destination is IMO the best way forward.


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