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Downtown Dallas: Sheraton Hotel

Postby dd_dweller » 24 Jul 2018 17:44

I haven’t seen a topic page for the Sheraton.

I drove by yesterday and it looks like they’re starting to remodel the entrance. It’s all blocked off now. There’s some picture at the parking garage. Anyone know what all is getting done?

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Sheraton Hotel

Postby dallaz » 24 Jul 2018 18:13

Hmmm. Interesting. It makes me wanna drive by and see what’s going on.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Sheraton Hotel

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 25 Jul 2018 08:14

I was told by another Downtown restaurant that some of their eateries are also under construction. Apparently, they have been catering from other Downtown restaurants while their eateries are out of commission. Its the carport area you speak of that's not blocked by construction fencing. I doubt we will see them fill it in like Adolphus but it is time for them to do some healthy amount of renovation. Hotels are supposed to get renovations of some kind every 3-5 years depending on the owner.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Sheraton Hotel

Postby tamtagon » 25 Jul 2018 08:25

Still wasting the 37th floor.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Sheraton Hotel

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 25 Jul 2018 08:29

^It just seems like a wasted opportunity for them for sure. An observation level bar/restaurant would do very well press wise if they did it this time around.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Sheraton Hotel

Postby ContriveDallasite » 25 Jul 2018 08:57

cowboyeagle05 wrote:^It just seems like a wasted opportunity for them for sure. An observation level bar/restaurant would do very well press wise if they did it this time around.


They could open a 24 hour Las Vegas style buffet and it would do well :lol:

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Sheraton Hotel

Postby lakewoodhobo » 25 Jul 2018 09:17

tamtagon wrote:Still wasting the 37th floor.

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This. I'm hoping they've noticed how the Statler is embracing its past and decided to emulate.

Also open the observation deck and restore the exterior mosaic tiles while they're at it.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Sheraton Hotel

Postby Tnexster » 25 Jul 2018 09:49

^I am all in on restoring those tiles, worst thing they ever did to that building.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Sheraton Hotel

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 25 Jul 2018 12:50

I doubt they would touch those tiles. Talk about creating a potentially mountainous project that would cost millions and still not make the hotel any more money than it does with them painted grey.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Sheraton Hotel

Postby lakewoodhobo » 25 Jul 2018 14:39

^They could offset some of those costs with rehabilitation tax credits, but of course it's easier said than done.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Sheraton Hotel

Postby jrd1964 » 25 Jul 2018 20:12

I've always been amazed at how few restaurant/bar choices there are in a hotel with this many rooms. The Adolphus, Anatole, and Statler all have more restaurants/bars, yet fewer rooms.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Sheraton Hotel

Postby itsjrd1964 » 29 Jul 2018 03:26

Was just by the hotel on the DART rail yesterday. There are several signs in the north side alcove/lobby, most are pointers that tell you to go to the second floor to access Front Desk employees/assistance. The others were too small to read from the train, but there must be a lot going on the main Lobby area if they've had to move the Reception away.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Sheraton Hotel

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 30 Jul 2018 09:16

My fraternity had its international convention in the hotel this weekend so I was onsite for a little bit. Yes, the reception check-in has moved to a meeting room on the second floor near the parking garage bridge for now. I did not see any renderings posted inside the hotel though with one of those "pardon our dust" type of signs. Maybe they are finally reworking the flow of the bottom level. Since this used to be a hotel and an office complex built in phases the ground level flow of space has been awkward for decades. Maybe we will get some rearrangement to make the lobby level and restaurant spaces work better for the new life of the hotel. I did see that DRAFT was completely torn out when I walked by their windows. It was down to the studs so it is definitely a significant redo since DRAFT was brand new when it was built out.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Sheraton Hotel

Postby itsjrd1964 » 24 Aug 2018 20:27

A fire broke out Friday morning in an elevator shaft being worked on at the hotel. DFD officials say that lubricants used in the shaft were ignited by a construction crew. Around 3000 people had to be evacuated.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/downtow ... s-sheraton

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Sheraton Hotel

Postby itsjrd1964 » 24 Aug 2018 21:58

More from the DBJ about the renovation:

https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news ... erway.html

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Sheraton Hotel

Postby DPatel304 » 24 Jan 2019 15:44

Some information about the upcoming bars/restaurants at the Sheraton:

http://dallas.culturemap.com/news/resta ... ports-bar/

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Sheraton Hotel

Postby itsjrd1964 » 24 Jan 2019 22:10

DPatel304 wrote:Some information about the upcoming bars/restaurants at the Sheraton:

http://dallas.culturemap.com/news/resta ... ports-bar/


I always felt that the Sheraton had too few food/drink options for the hotel's size. At least they're rectifying that somewhat. The hours at Draft seem to be pretty good. 1am should satisfy most that aren't looking for a nightclub setting.

Yesterday, as I passed by the hotel on the bus, I noticed that they now have the hotel check-in area opened up again in the main building, instead of the temporary spot they've had across the street.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Sheraton Hotel

Postby tamtagon » 25 Jan 2019 07:28

DPatel304 wrote:http://dallas.culturemap.com/news/restaurants-bars/01-24-19-sheraton-dallas-downtown-coffee-shop-sports-bar/

The Sheraton Dallas has been at the forefront of Marriott's move to transform the Sheraton Hotels & Resorts brand, with a design strategy that emphasizes community, collaboration, and experiences.


Until the Sheraton's convention space is totally retooled (and expanded) to interact with Pacific Park, the brand's design strategy to emphasize community, collaboration and experiences is empty and absurd. What may be the best entertainment observation floor in the city remains empty at this hotel; back in the day, Ports O'Call was the place! It was known and part of the city's entrance to a bigger stage. That tiki vibe is coming back strong, and this hotel could easily become a destination for locals on top of the convention trade.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Sheraton Hotel

Postby lakewoodhobo » 25 Jan 2019 08:47

tamtagon wrote:
DPatel304 wrote:http://dallas.culturemap.com/news/restaurants-bars/01-24-19-sheraton-dallas-downtown-coffee-shop-sports-bar/

The Sheraton Dallas has been at the forefront of Marriott's move to transform the Sheraton Hotels & Resorts brand, with a design strategy that emphasizes community, collaboration, and experiences.


Until the Sheraton's convention space is totally retooled (and expanded) to interact with Pacific Park, the brand's design strategy to emphasize community, collaboration and experiences is empty and absurd. What may be the best entertainment observation floor in the city remains empty at this hotel; back in the day, Ports O'Call was the place! It was known and part of the city's entrance to a bigger stage. That tiki vibe is coming back strong, and this hotel could easily become a destination for locals on top of the convention trade.


I thought the exact same thing. Even if it wasn't feasible to bring back the original Ports O' Call, a tiki bar that referenced it by name (The Port, Ports O' Call Tiki Bar, whatever) would've been great. You'd think they would learn from the Statler and realize that nostalgia sells.

100% missed opportunity.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Sheraton Hotel

Postby tamtagon » 25 Jan 2019 09:04

^funny thing about selling/rebranding/presenting nostalgic experiences.... it's not just the reliving of youth among older folks that make the opportunity, the essence of the experience appeals to everyone but is available only as contemporary trends, fashion and style allows.

What was so popular two generations ago is on the menu for today's young adults.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Sheraton Hotel

Postby lakewoodhobo » 04 Apr 2019 11:25

Walked through the new lobby and restaurants and I call say is "yawn". The Starler, Cambria and even the Lorenzo have a cohesive design and they each tell a story. The story here is someone picked a few things out of a catalog and called it a day.

It feels like the Westin at One Main: boring, corporate and cheap...except for the LED feature at the entrance which is probably what they blew their budget on. What a waste of potential.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Sheraton Hotel

Postby tamtagon » 04 Apr 2019 11:42

I'd like to think the new park will redefine the hotel's convention space, but I'm not holding my breath. It wasn't so long ago this Sheraton have a big redo, right?

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Sheraton Hotel

Postby vman » 04 Apr 2019 14:04

lakewoodhobo wrote:Walked through the new lobby and restaurants and I call say is "yawn". The Starler, Cambria and even the Lorenzo have a cohesive design and they each tell a story. The story here is someone picked a few things out of a catalog and called it a day.

It feels like the Westin at One Main: boring, corporate and cheap. What a waste of potential.

It's so funny, I just was there Saturday afternoon and had lunch at Open Palette. I agree with your assessment. I walked in expecting to be blown away and was completely underwhelmed.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Sheraton Hotel

Postby willyk » 05 Apr 2019 04:07

vman wrote:
lakewoodhobo wrote:Walked through the new lobby and restaurants and I call say is "yawn". The Starler, Cambria and even the Lorenzo have a cohesive design and they each tell a story. The story here is someone picked a few things out of a catalog and called it a day.

It feels like the Westin at One Main: boring, corporate and cheap. What a waste of potential.

It's so funny, I just was there Saturday afternoon and had lunch at Open Palette. I agree with your assessment. I walked in expecting to be blown away and was completely underwhelmed.


It’s a convention hotel 100%.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Sheraton Hotel

Postby Tnexster » 05 Apr 2019 15:43

What exactly were they supposed to do that they didn't do?

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Sheraton Hotel

Postby itsjrd1964 » 05 Apr 2019 20:22

Sure, it's a convention hotel, but so is the Omni, but at least the Omni tries to give guests a good selection of food/beverage, plus a nice art-filled atmosphere. Since I haven't seen the Sheraton's 'after' yet, I'm not sure what they didn't do from an appearance point. I still think with the hotel's size, that they should have more f/b choices than they offer now. Both the Omni and the Anatole have fewer rooms, but much more in the way of f/b offerings. Even though it's not a hotel company-managed property, I would think Marriott (the now-parent/umbrella company over the Sheraton brand) would want to have a standout hotel downtown in every way.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Sheraton Hotel

Postby Hannibal Lecter » 16 Apr 2019 15:06

"Sheraton Dallas Completes Major Renovation Project, Adds High-Tech Art Experience"

http://www.frequentbusinesstraveler.com ... xperience/

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Sheraton Hotel

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 16 Apr 2019 15:26

^
Finally, the Sheraton Dallas installed two four-sided, LED video columns at the hotel’s entrance that feature works of art as a way of showcasing the hotel’s connection to the arts district.


:roll:

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Sheraton Hotel

Postby dfwcre8tive » 16 Apr 2019 16:19

cowboyeagle05 wrote:^
Finally, the Sheraton Dallas installed two four-sided, LED video columns at the hotel’s entrance that feature works of art as a way of showcasing the hotel’s connection to the arts district.


:roll:


Something like these?

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Sheraton Hotel

Postby lakewoodhobo » 16 Apr 2019 16:36

dfwcre8tive wrote:
cowboyeagle05 wrote:^
Finally, the Sheraton Dallas installed two four-sided, LED video columns at the hotel’s entrance that feature works of art as a way of showcasing the hotel’s connection to the arts district.


:roll:


Something like these?


Sorry about the extreme closeup, but this is what they look like.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Sheraton Hotel

Postby trueicon » 16 Apr 2019 22:44

tamtagon wrote:Until the Sheraton's convention space is totally retooled (and expanded) to interact with Pacific Park, the brand's design strategy to emphasize community, collaboration and experiences is empty and absurd. What may be the best entertainment observation floor in the city remains empty at this hotel; back in the day, Ports O'Call was the place! It was known and part of the city's entrance to a bigger stage. That tiki vibe is coming back strong, and this hotel could easily become a destination for locals on top of the convention trade.

I would love to see a tiki bar somewhere downtown (and I'm talking about a real one, not a nightclub hybrid like Pilikia was). It's such a shame that we had such a great example of one years ago on top of the Sheraton.

4 Kahunas in Arlington is a great example of the tiki concept done correctly. This would be a massive hit with the downtown convention crowd.


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