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Re: DFW Airport

Postby Tucy » 21 May 2019 17:05

Tnexster wrote:
Alex Rodriguez wrote:D cost $1.2 Billion 15 years ago. Its probably the scale of the thing, D is massive and F will be equally as massive. 24 gates is surprisingly low, maybe its going to be primarily built out to handle 789, 773, big widebodies?


Probably, but doesn't this project also include a remodel of Terminal C?


Terminal C adds another 1/2 Billion.

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Re: DFW Airport

Postby Tucy » 21 May 2019 17:12

Alex Rodriguez wrote:D cost $1.2 Billion 15 years ago. Its probably the scale of the thing, D is massive and F will be equally as massive. 24 gates is surprisingly low, maybe its going to be primarily built out to handle 789, 773, big widebodies?


D was built with 28 gates and the Grand Hyatt Hotel and the FIS facility.

F will apparently have 24 gates, at most. There is no reason to think it will have FIS or a hotel and it probably will not be built primarily for wide-bodies. 2 1/2 times the money 15 years later for less terminal?

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Re: DFW Airport

Postby Matt777 » 31 Jul 2019 17:02

Buffalo Wild Wings, Topgolf want to bring 'sports experience venue' to DFW Airport


https://www.wfaa.com/article/entertainm ... 2c1dca202b

Pretty cool. Along with the gaming lounge that recently opened, it would be nice to see more traveler amenities that turn DFW Airport into a destination itself. Singapore Airport has done an excellent job of this. With Terminal F on the horizon, some out of the box thinking on amenities would be welcome. Maybe an indoor garden area, movie theater, gym/spa, something to entertain kids, etc.. DFW already offers a nice passenger experience and is easy to connect through, but making it the premier hub with the best passenger experience in North America might take some creative thinking.

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Re: DFW Airport

Postby itsjrd1964 » 01 Aug 2019 09:12

DFW has decided to raise tolls/fees on those that are at the airport 8 minutes or less, to $6. Up to now, it has cost $4 if you were at the airport 8 minutes or less. The article says the airport is aiming primarily at those that just pass through the airport without a pickup or dropoff, and use DFW as a shortcut of sorts. The increase would begin Oct. 1.

No other toll/fee changes are currently being considered.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/dfw ... g-shortcut

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Re: DFW Airport

Postby Matt777 » 08 Aug 2019 13:35

American will start nonstop flights from DFW to Tel Aviv, Israel, starting in September 2020.

However, DFW will lose AA's seasonal service to Reykjavik, Iceland, which will move to their Philadelphia hub.

Hopefully Icelandair will come back with AA exiting the market.

More international announcements are expected next week. This will presumably include how AA's DFW-Tokyo flights will be alloted between Narita and Haneda, now that they have DFW-HND slots. Currently all DFW flights to Tokyo are routed to Narita airport.

https://onemileatatime.com/new-american ... -and-more/

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Re: DFW Airport

Postby Matt777 » 16 Aug 2019 14:46

Classic Anti-Competitive Behavior: With Other Airlines Gone, American Drops Dallas – Iceland Service Too


https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.co ... rvice-too/

Interesting article about anti-competitive behavior on the part of American Airlines at DFW Airport. It's a well known fact that AA wants to be the only choice DFW area customers have when it comes to international flying, which is one of the reasons we see less foreign carriers at DFW, less competition, and higher prices.

We went from 3 carriers on DFW-Iceland to zero. AA started their flight to kick out the Icelandic carriers, succeeded, and now "relocates" the flight to Philadelphia, guaranteeing their monopoly on the route and the chance to squeeze DFW customers for more money, while providing less comfort, amenities, and convenience.

American also added a second daily DFW-Paris flight after Air France announced their reentry to DFW, presumably to try and push them out to limit choice for DFW fliers. Air France is about to conclude their seasonal flight, so we will see if they choose to operate it again next year or if AA gets their way.

What they do is hard to prove as "illegal," and would likely never happen. However, Dallas and Fort Worth taxpayers do own DFW Airport, fund it, and assume any financial risk that comes with running the megahub for American Airlines. If we had a mayor who cared and wasn't put in power by big business (we do have that with Eric Johnson), I would love to see them lay down the law and tell American we are not going to let their monopoly cause higher airfares for Dallasites, less choice, and less international links that bring growth and global visibility to our city.

This could be accomplished by refusing to fund construction for the new Terminal F, or supporting actual Dallas-based Southwest Airlines in a complete reversal of any Wright Amendment restrictions on Love Field gate numbers, usage, and allowing international flights from Love.

But, this is all conjecture and will likely never happen. Being the kind of Mayor Eric Johnson is, I'm sure backs have been scratched and a deal has been worked out to protect AA at the expense of Dallasites.

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Re: DFW Airport

Postby tamtagon » 16 Aug 2019 19:35

Finding a way to increase competition at DFW International Airport is critical to the region's economy, but instead of suggesting 'we' refuse to fund Terminal F construction, how about funding Terminal F and G to make room for another carrier.

DFW could and should actively pursue the reestablishment of a Delta-SkyTeam hub.

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Re: DFW Airport

Postby Tucy » 24 Sep 2019 10:29

At its September meeting the DFW Airport Board had on its agenda, and presumably approved an increase in the contract for Terminal F Phase 1 - Construction Manager at Risk, in an amount not to exceed $62,634,577.00, for a revised Contract amount of $132,745,984.00.

According to the agenda item, "Construction of Terminal F Phase 1 will provide four swing gates capable of accommodating both domestic and international flights at the southern end of Terminal D".

The Terminal F Phase 1 project was formerly known as the Terminal D South Expansion project.

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Re: DFW Airport

Postby Cord1936 » 24 Sep 2019 18:13

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DFW International Airport CEO Sean Donohue says the new terminal could open as early as 2025.
Image courtesy of Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport

DFW Airport Grows Internationally
The airport's new $3.1 billion terminal will mean good things for jetsetters.
By Shawn Shinneman, D CEO, September 2019

When DFW International Airport announced it would add a $3.1 billion sixth terminal in May, CEO Sean Donohue explained the addition as a necessity to continue capturing the region’s booming growth. North Texas will be bigger than Chicago by the end of the decade, according to reports of his announcement at the Hyatt Regency DFW.
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I learned that American Airlines, which flew to 48 international destinations a decade ago, now travels to 86. Donohue told me that DFW Airport has doubled its international service since 2010.
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Some of that growth has been driven by the relocations that have defined our corporate business environment over the last five years. Donohue doesn’t believe Japan Airlines would have come to DFW had Toyota not moved to the area.
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“The fact that our international profile has grown so dramatically, I also think, is an appeal to corporations as they’re looking to make a decision to move to DFW ...
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Donohue says that the new Terminal F will be intentionally built for flexibility, so the airport can use more gates for international travel during the summer and fewer during the winter, when domestic is a greater emphasis. He won’t estimate a breakdown of how many of the 24 gates will be allocated for international travel at any given time.
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Regardless of just how many more flights pop up, DFW’s standing as an international hub will only grow. And that’s a good thing for all ages.

Full article: https://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-ceo/2019/september/dfw-airport-grows-internationally/?utm_campaign=Newsletter%20-%20D%20CEO&utm_source=hs_email&utm_medium=email&utm_content=77244437&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-__hVYQd8EFjAZfMWyFERJPBAvAw6YY-MQRu7tCjDcK5kHSmt6UBIQIVDmeA-X84_OB53tbmRoB1LM9MjX0MRJYVgn9SQ&_hsmi=77244437

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Re: DFW Airport

Postby tamtagon » 24 Sep 2019 20:24

To really grow the international business and increase domestic competition, find a way to build a SkyTeam hub. If North Texas will be bigger than Chicago before the end of the decade, the big airport needs to operate as a dual hub.

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Re: DFW Airport

Postby Cord1936 » 25 Sep 2019 23:02

tamtagon wrote:To really grow the international business and increase domestic competition, find a way to build a SkyTeam hub. If North Texas will be bigger than Chicago before the end of the decade, the big airport needs to operate as a dual hub.

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Totally agree ...

Here is another interesting article touting a 2019 study showing that DFW is now the 3rd "most connected" airport in the country, behind O'Hare and Hartsfield. DFW moved up one spot from 4th last year to 3rd in 2019.

Houston's George Bush Intercontinental Airport ranked 9th and Houston Hobby didn't rank in the top 25.

In addition to DFW's 3rd place ranking Dallas Love Field is also in the top 25, apparently at number 22 ... that is quite an accomplishment since the Wright Amendment's modification.

The inane shackles that still remain restricting Love Field's growth need to be completely jettisoned and you would really see it shoot up in the various airport metrics.
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PHOTO: Travelers walking through Chicago's O'Hare International Airport. (photo via tupungato/iStock Editorial/Getty Images Plus)

America's Most Connected Airports
by Patrick Clarke, TravelPulse.com, September 23, 2019

Chicago's O'Hare International Airport remains the most connected airport in the nation, according to OAG's 2019 Megahubs Index.

The U.K.-based air travel intelligence company's list ranks domestic airports based on the highest ratio of possible scheduled connections to the number of destinations served by that airport.
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The world's busiest airport, Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson International ranks second for connectivity in the U.S., followed by a pair of American Airlines hubs in Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport and Charlotte Douglas International Airport. DFW is up one spot in 2019, overtaking CLT for third.
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Other top 25 finishers include Philadelphia International; Salt Lake City International; San Francisco International; Dallas Love Field; Chicago Midway International; Las Vegas' McCarran International and Baltimore-Washington International.

Full article: https://www.travelpulse.com/news/airlines/americas-most-connected-airports.html

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Re: DFW Airport

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 26 Sep 2019 14:22

AA and DFW are joined at the hip. AA doesn't want it and the DFW board is not likely to upset AA over the idea of a multi-hub airport. While being a more prominent airport with multi-hub integrated with AA's hub would benefit AA they still would rather keep DFW all to themselves. It's selfish but the DFW board is still willing to play the AA game.

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Re: DFW Airport

Postby tamtagon » 26 Sep 2019 20:07

North Texas customers do not benefit from the fortress hub. After Love Field was granted full domestic access, prices dropped significantly at DFW; now that things have settled down, and Love Field has reached capacity+, DFW flights have become more expensive. Legacy Carrier + Fortress Hub = higher prices. Competition from another major legacy carrier hub will benefit consumers, elevate the airport and have an impact on the entire domestic hub.

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Re: DFW Airport

Postby Matt777 » 26 Sep 2019 22:05

Delta is buying a 20% stake in LATAM, South America's largest airline group which has hubs in most large South American cities. LATAM is part of Oneworld and partnered with AA, and will be leaving Oneworld ASAP.

This is not good news for AA. They lose connectivity in South America from the cities they fly to on their own planes to secondary cities on LATAM. AA has always been historically strong in Latin America, but this will be a big speed bump for them. All after showing off their glitzy new HQ, and probably didn't even see it coming.


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