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Re: Northpark Center

Postby Cbdallas » 24 Jan 2019 11:37

I would love to see this come to Northpark and give it a denser more urban quality.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby R1070 » 24 Jan 2019 21:24

Now that's more like it. I think JWM will be great!

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby Jasimm » 24 Jan 2019 22:04

Butters wrote:NorthPark is on the JW Marriott New location list.


I have looked through the site and can't seem to find it. Can you share a link?

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby itsjrd1964 » 24 Jan 2019 22:42

Roman_Patrick wrote:Holy Cow! A JW Marriott at Northpark! This would be the first JW in Dallas correct?


It would be the first JW in Dallas and north TX. Currently in TX, there is one, a golf course resort in far north San Antonio, 2 in Houston (downtown, and by the Houston Galleria), and a new one in downtown Austin.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby Roman_Patrick » 25 Jan 2019 11:59

BobbyB75254 wrote:For those of you curious about hotel development at Northpark Mall, I found this online today. It seems that Marriott is planning a J.W. Marriott Hotel, the first J.W. Marriott in DFW. The Brand fact sheet on their website indicates "250 Room JW Marriott Dallas - Northpark Center 2018" I can't see them constructing and opening by 2018, but they could certainly start construction by 2018. Anyone know any further details? Also, I suppose it could be built neat Northpark Center, and not exactly on site. It seems likely that a hotel attached to the mall would make sense such as the JW Marriott in Atlanta that is connected to Lenox Square Mall.


https://www.iltm.com/__novadocuments/33 ... 9664400000



Found the list! If this is the same one we were talking about...

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby Tucy » 25 Jan 2019 14:54

Roman_Patrick wrote:
BobbyB75254 wrote:For those of you curious about hotel development at Northpark Mall, I found this online today. It seems that Marriott is planning a J.W. Marriott Hotel, the first J.W. Marriott in DFW. The Brand fact sheet on their website indicates "250 Room JW Marriott Dallas - Northpark Center 2018" I can't see them constructing and opening by 2018, but they could certainly start construction by 2018. Anyone know any further details? Also, I suppose it could be built neat Northpark Center, and not exactly on site. It seems likely that a hotel attached to the mall would make sense such as the JW Marriott in Atlanta that is connected to Lenox Square Mall.


https://www.iltm.com/__novadocuments/33 ... 9664400000



Found the list! If this is the same one we were talking about...


Hmmmm... pretty old list (note that it also lists several in 2017 as "future openings") and it's not from Marriott's website; it's from the website of a travel event company. I wouldn't hold my breath on the basis of this list.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby jsoto3 » 25 Jan 2019 21:53

itsjrd1964 wrote:Anyway, he claims it'll be a Hyatt and have 18 stories with retail/restaurants along with it.

Sounds like the Hyatt Regency that I worked on at Tysons Corner mall in Virginia: https://www.callisonrtkl.com/projects/h ... ns-corner/

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby R1070 » 25 Jan 2019 22:20

Well, I hope this is true.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby Brettoj » 26 Jan 2019 10:18

If we are talking Hyatt I of course would prefer a Park Hyatt. Park Hyatt at North Park. I think it works :D

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby R1070 » 27 Jan 2019 16:58

L'Occitane is just doing a store refresh and Chicos is closing this location very soon if not already. I was surprised when they moved within the mall because I assumed they would have closed then given the number of locations close by.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby Butters » 27 Jan 2019 18:52

JW Marriott checks the boxes why they and NP would do a hotel

1. Largest hotel membership rewards program by double over any hotel group
2. A luxury hotel where executives can expense their stays vs a Ritz or Four Season
3 More Fortune 500 customers than all other hotels
4. Being next to NorthPark provides the hcustomer with world class shopping, art, dining which equals Heads in beds = $$$$

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby trueicon » 28 Jan 2019 08:55

^ I do think a JW Marriott hotel is sorely needed in Dallas but this is 100% the wrong place to put it. A hotel like that belongs downtown. Putting something like that at Northpark is the type of sprawl that created the mess we have on our freeways and the smog in the air. It is the exact opposite of smart urban development. The kind of person staying at the JW Marriott is not staying there to shop at North Park.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby TNWE » 28 Jan 2019 15:05

trueicon wrote:^ I do think a JW Marriott hotel is sorely needed in Dallas but this is 100% the wrong place to put it. A hotel like that belongs downtown. Putting something like that at Northpark is the type of sprawl that created the mess we have on our freeways and the smog in the air. It is the exact opposite of smart urban development. The kind of person staying at the JW Marriott is not staying there to shop at North Park.


Hate to break it to ya, but putting a JW Marriott downtown isn't going to magically "un-sprawl" the Loop 12 & 75 intersection - That ship has sailed. If anything, a high-end luxury hotel at NorthPark will spur further office, retail, and residential development *in* Dallas that would otherwise go to Frisco/Prosper.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby I45Tex » 29 Jan 2019 09:48

Northwest Highway is Dallas' equivalent of Houston's West Loop South (if only in distance from the core -- LBJ is much farther than 610) -- and while the first JW Marriott in Texas went there, eventually a second one did find central Houston too. There it and the Lancaster and the ICON are the most expensive available downtown behind the Four Seasons; major luxury hotels in town are out west.

Whether or not one is greenlit at Northpark, though, the proposal discussed above would be the smallest of the properties with that flag in the state:

1012 rooms
[Convention Center], opened 2015
Austin

283 rooms
Downtown, 2014
Houston

1002 rooms
Hill Country Resort, 2010
San Antonio

514 rooms
"By the Galleria", 1982
Houston

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby tamtagon » 29 Jan 2019 10:22

I'm surprised there's only one Ritz in Dallas-Plano.

...and the NorthPark area is long overdue for a heavy dose of office space.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby I45Tex » 29 Jan 2019 12:32

My sense is that at the margin between very wealthy and scandalously wealthy, Texans and Oklahomans have almost always opted to spend more time on properties devoted to skiing, ranching, or fishing, as opposed to additional toes on the ground in their city.

And that when they downsize and sell the house it's to spend more time in those properties in New Mexico, Colorado, or rural Texas/Louisiana/arkansas, which dampens the volume of city condo & serviced apartment/hotel development in the metros where they made their careers.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby Cbdallas » 29 Jan 2019 15:03

That is exactly why urban Dallas needs more moderately priced condo towers. People including myself would live and buy one if it was within reach of people still living out their career here in Dallas. Towers here are in two groups Apartment rentals and super high end $$$$$ condo units. I still say an appropriately priced tower similar to what has been built for rentals in the West Village area for sale would work. There is no option in that area to purchase in a tower setting only to rent.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby Jasimm » 13 Feb 2019 10:19

Retail updates to Northpark Center 2/13/19:
RED is a new change/update since last update 9/14/18

Relocating Soon:
-7 for AllMankind-NOW OPEN (Previous Splendid Space)
-Salvatore Ferragamo- Fall 2018 (Previous David Yurman Space)

New Stores Opening Soon:
-Athleta- Spring 2019 (Previous Brookstone Space)
-Dreamscape Immersive at AMC- Spring 2019 (Previous Trains at Northpark Space)
-Saint Laurent- Spring/Summer 2019 (Previous Design Within Reach Space)
-Dolce & Gabbana- Fall 2019 (Previous Williams Sonoma Space)

New Stores Opening Soon in Unknown Locations:
Golden Goose- Fall 2019
Schutz- Fall 2020

Vacant or Soon to be Vacant Storefronts:
-Previous Henri Bendel Space (Closing All Retail Locations)
-Previous Clark's Space
-Previous Bottletop Experience Space
-Current Salvatore Ferragamo
-Previous Pirch Space
-Previous Talbots Space (1 of 2)
-Previous Mac/Coach Space (1 of 2)


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