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Re: Northpark Center

Postby Jasimm » 27 Jul 2018 12:52

Butters wrote:If the barricade is popped out the store is under construction. If it is flush it’s not under construction yet. Open the construction doors and see for yourself. Saint Laurent is the 1st of a few new amazing additions I’m hearing from those in the know.... :)


Glad to hear more are on the way, hopefully sooner than Saint Laurent's expected opening of Summer 2019.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby Jasimm » 27 Jul 2018 12:53

R1070 wrote:I don't know if Splendid is moving or closing. It was still open when I was shopping yesterday.


In the updated Summer 2018 map it still shows Splendid being replaced.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby Tucy » 27 Jul 2018 13:03

I presume Saint Laurent is moving from HPV?

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby Butters » 27 Jul 2018 18:15

Tucy - according to their sales people they are closing HPV when they relocate.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby R1070 » 02 Aug 2018 21:19

Rodd & Gunn is now open and Brookstone announced today that it will be closing all of it's mall stores, so that's another spot that will open up in the mall. I'm not surprised by the Brookstone announcement and I always felt like it looked odd in that spot anyway.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby Jasimm » 03 Aug 2018 17:26

Louis Vuitton Men's store is now open.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby R1070 » 05 Aug 2018 15:09

Jasimm wrote:Louis Vuitton Men's store is now open.


It appears to be a refresh of the Mulberry store design. Is this temporary and the plan is to open a larger LV store in the mall?

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby hjkll » 05 Aug 2018 18:27

R1070 wrote:
Jasimm wrote:Louis Vuitton Men's store is now open.


It appears to be a refresh of the Mulberry store design. Is this temporary and the plan is to open a larger LV store in the mall?


I hope LV takes over the Bvlgari/Montblanc spaces and expands with Men’s for one huge store with RTW. Same with Gucci and all or part of the Ferragamo space. Both brands are going through reinventions and those locations could serve as Texas flagships and have way more than the product offering than just the basics.

Also I said this in a previous post but Northpark has a vacant spots that are unclaimed as well as the soon to be vacated Brookstone spot. I wish they would work more on getting pop ups for new brands like All Birds or Everlane.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby Dallasretail » 05 Aug 2018 19:43

I agree the men’s store is def temporary. The men’s line now carries ready to wear clothing for the first time in Dallas. But the much larger original store wasn’t reconfigured to carry women’s clothing so they appear to be have other plans. Perhaps the Williams Sonoma space that still doesn’t have an announced tenant.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby R1070 » 05 Aug 2018 21:17

I was thinking the Williams Sonoma space as well.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby Butters » 22 Aug 2018 12:54

Paige is now open and looks great and I understand Aesop will open tomorrow

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby Jasimm » 22 Aug 2018 13:11

Butters wrote:Paige is now open and looks great and I understand Aesop will open tomorrow


Paige has a great selection, but can make it in an ever crowded Dallas demin market (AG, Rag & Bone, Frame, Lucky Brand, Baldwin, etc)


Finally. I love Aēsop but this store has taken forever to open. I just wish they could have included the spa that I think 3 other stores worldwide have.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby Jasimm » 11 Sep 2018 13:07

BOTTLETOP - OPENING FALL 2018

BOTTLETOP is a British sustainable fashion brand. Their products blend artisanal production techniques from diverse cultures with elevated design and the finest sustainably sourced materials. Their atelier in Salvador, Brazil creates bags and accessories featuring custom production techniques and signature materials: up-cycled metal and certified zero deforestation leather from the Amazon.

BOTTLETOP and Narciso Rodriguez were awarded the Green Carpet Challenge (GCC) brandmark by Eco Age in 2014 for their design collaboration. BOTTLETOP collaborated with DKNY in 2015 and partnered with BAFTA and the Rio Olympics in 2016 designing costumes for the Opening Ceremony. They opened the first 3D printed retail store in the world made from recycled plastic in London in 2018, an iteration of which will be exclusively showcased at NorthPark Center.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby R1070 » 11 Sep 2018 21:16

Bottletop appears to be a pop-up store in the space that was previously Valentino.

Also...
Scotch & Soda is building out in the previous Papyrus location as they've opened their new spot in the old Johnston & Murphy space. I'm still not quite sure what is going on with 7 for all Mankind relocation though. Anyone have word on that?

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby Butters » 11 Sep 2018 22:15

Bottletop is a pop up from what I read. According to a former sales person of 7FAM, he said 7FAM will reopen this Fall.

I can’t wait to hear who is taking the few vacant spaces available. I’m confident they will be good and unique like all the ones they’ve added the last few years.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby R1070 » 12 Sep 2018 21:10

With the direction NorthPark is going, it's funny that the GAP and Express now stick out some. I wouldn't be surprised if one or both of them move to the second floor where Sephora was and possibly one of them closing (most likely Express) to open up those spaces for more unique retailers.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby Jasimm » 14 Sep 2018 11:59

R1070 wrote:With the direction NorthPark is going, it's funny that the GAP and Express now stick out some. I wouldn't be surprised if one or both of them move to the second floor where Sephora was and possibly one of them closing (most likely Express) to open up those spaces for more unique retailers.


Agreed, especially with Express.
I can see GAP staying as they are attempting a more fashion forward look but still if both these stores were replaced you could easily open 4 new stores in their place.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby Jasimm » 14 Sep 2018 12:19

Retail updates to Northpark Center 9/14/18:
RED is a new change/update since last update 7/23/18

Relocating Soon:
-Papyrus- NOW OPEN (Previous Johnston & Murphy Space)
-7 for AllMankind- Moving Fall 2018 (Previous Splendid Space)
-Salvatore Ferragamo- Fall 2018 (Previous David Yurman Space)
-Versace- Fall 2018 (Current Salvatore Ferragamo Space)

New Stores Opening Soon:
-Aēsop- NOW OPEN (Previous Illori Space)
-Louis Vuitton Men's Store- NOW OPEN (Previous Mulberry Space)
-Paige Denim- NOW OPEN (Previous Alkola Space)
-Rodd & Gunn- NOW OPEN (Previous Sugarfina/Talbots Space)
-Bottletop- Fall 2018 (Previous Valentino Space)
-Kids Atelier- Fall 2018 (Previous Crewcuts Space)
-Morphe- Fall 2018 (Previous Sperry Top-Sider Space)
-Outdoor Voices- Fall 2018 (Previous Lululemon Space)
-Saint Laurent- Summer 2019 (Previous Design Within Reach Space)
-Scotch & Soda- Fall 2018 (Previous Papyrus Space)

New Stores Opening Soon in Unknown Locations:


Vacant or Soon to be Vacant Storefronts:
-Previous Williams Sonoma Space
-Previous Brookstone Space (Company Liquidation)
-Previous Henri Bendel Space (Closing All Retail Locations)

-Previous Clark's Space
-Previous Pirch Space (Possibly splitting into 3 spaces according to March 2018 map)
-Previous Talbots Space (1 of 2)
-Previous Mac/Coach Space (1 of 2)
-Previous Trains at Northpark Space

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby Jasimm » 14 Sep 2018 12:30

Saint Laurent's move from Highland Park Village to NorthPark shows the luxury of being in demand

"At NorthPark this month, Louis Vuitton and New Zealand retailer Rodd & Gunn opened men's stores. Paige, a men's and women's boutique from Los Angeles with decidedly California fashion looks, opened Wednesday. Paige has a store in Austin, but otherwise has been coastal, with its other stores in New York City or California.

NorthPark's Apple store made some upgrades, adding a video wall and new tables, stools and counters.

Several new stores are opening in the next few months: Kid Atelier, Scotch & Soda, Morphe, Outdoor Voices and Saint Laurent. Salvatore Ferragamo, James Avery and Versace are remodeling or expanding next year.

While other enclosed malls have seen traffic declines, NorthPark is one of those "A" malls that have emerged in major markets as destinations while other secondary shopping centers have been losing their customers.

The mall has had a steady increase in traffic with a percentage change in the double-digits over the last two years, Gibbins said.

"We are fortunate to have an extremely loyal customer base" and a steady flow of new customers and international tourists, she said."

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/ret ... ury-demand

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby hjkll » 16 Sep 2018 10:33

Henri Bendel is closing all stores across the country including the 5th Avenue flagship. All locations will close by January of next year including Northpark's location. I'm curious what will replace them. More and more spaces are opening up in Northpark including the soon to be closed Brookstone.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby Tnexster » 16 Sep 2018 12:04

I can't remember the last time I have been in NorthPark, it's probably been a year by now but I never go and the move to make the mall so upscale doesn't make it more appealing. Sign of the times, personal preference or whatever you want to call it I prefer an outdoor street scene these days.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby Butters » 16 Sep 2018 14:33

Tnexster wrote:I can't remember the last time I have been in NorthPark, it's probably been a year by now but I never go and the move to make the mall so upscale doesn't make it more appealing. Sign of the times, personal preference or whatever you want to call it I prefer an outdoor street scene these days.


This is what makes forums so interesting. Personal preferences. I’d recommend Allen outlets or Firewheel or West Village for you. I’ll stick to the nice cool A/C and huge variety of stores at different price points, many which you can only find at NP. The added bonus is the crazy amount of eye candy you see shopping there that you don’t see anywhere else.

Store closings are a positive as it allows them to add new stores. It’s hard to add when they are full

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby R1070 » 16 Sep 2018 16:04

I don't feel like NP is getting too high end, but rather getting unique stores to the market or state.
I think their goal is about creating a more unique shopping experience rather than pricing people out.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby Butters » 16 Sep 2018 16:32

R1070 wrote:I don't feel like NP is getting too high end, but rather getting unique stores to the market or state.
I think their goal is about creating a more unique shopping experience rather than pricing people out.



Well said and fully agree. It has something for everyone and every price range but they also focus on unique high quality stores that can only be found at NP. That’s what makes the center so special

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby Kelley USA » 17 Sep 2018 09:43

It's funny, I use to go to NorthPark ALL the time but it's been maybe 2 years since I've stepped inside.

On another note... Just returned from a week long vacay in Cali. Visited both Fashion Island Mall and Westfield Century City Mall. Century City has just completed a massive addition and upgrade that now includes an Eataly and 100+ new stores. I know the weather isn't really condusive for such projects here, but both of those destinations are absolutely spectacular! I know we have places like Southlake Town Square and Legacy West that provide that outdoor experience, but they don't really compare.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby tamtagon » 17 Sep 2018 12:18

Kelley USA wrote: Visited both Fashion Island Mall .


I used to work right near this mall and I can remember clearly the sense of wonder the first time taking the outdoor escalator down to the street being treated to an ocean view. So beautiful.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby deweast » 17 Sep 2018 12:53

I used to live in Big Canyon and would ride my bike over to Fashion Island just for the enjoyment of the experience. It is really something special. That said; the only place it would work is in the part of the country that has the best weather on the planet. Without that, the whole outside mall suffers....and the best you can do is what Frisco and Southlake have done. The good news is however I no longer pay ridiculous state income taxes, extraordinary gas tax, and over the top housing cost— all that great weather is VERY expensive.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby muncien » 18 Sep 2018 10:01

I think I bought a pair of jeans at Express in Northpark about nine years ago. Unfortunately, those jeans only lasted about four years and other than going to the theater at Northpark, I haven't purchased anything there since.
My version of the ideal 'shopping experience' involves finding positive amazon reviews on something I want with free same day delivery, or finding my actual size clothes on the clearance rack at Kohls... lol
But clearly I'm the exception. It's reassuring to see that there is still a clientele for what Northpark offers.
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Re: Northpark Center

Postby Butters » 18 Sep 2018 13:22

The weather makes Fashion Island and Century City a fun place to hang out. I'd add Stanford shopping center and Ala Moana in Honolulu in this category too. Dallas weather however is comparing apples and oranges. Way to many hot days to walk outside in comfort. Fashion Island has good restaurants but their store selection is very average. South Coast Plaza down the road has all the best stores. Century City has added some nice additions like Eataly but the store selection can be found in many other centers in LA. It's the design that they have done really well.

I've read NorthPark is the 5th highest grossing shopping center in the US so they obviously are doing something right and attracting local, regional and international shoppers. They are one of the few centers that has every top brand under one roof in a wonderful setting with great art.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 18 Sep 2018 13:48

Butters wrote:The weather makes Fashion Island and Century City a fun place to hang out. I'd add Stanford shopping center and Ala Moana in Honolulu in this category too. Dallas weather however is comparing apples and oranges. Way to many hot days to walk outside in comfort.


While I agree that Dallas weather isn't ideal; i also think it's a matter of archecture / design..

When I stayed abroad in Madrid, a landlocked , hot city, with concrete everywhere..with similar summer temps as Dallas..I frequnted both urban and suburban out door malls.

I simply don't buy that you can't have a successful outdoor mall in a hot place.

Centro Commercial Principal Pío is an example of such thing. Essentially the mall is built around a plaza space. Where you have buildings that house the stores but you have plaza space/ sidewalks that are landscaped enough to provide adequate shade. The buildings are situated close enough where the walk is short and tolerable.

One of the biggest reasons this fails here is because the surface parking lots and how they're situated. Looking at Firewheel Mall, we see that there are large department stores that have huge swaths of parking BETWEEN them.

Rather than having the stores in close proximity to each other we separate them with parking lots. That's the main thing. Don't you think Firewheel would be way better if the Large department stores where next to each other? Imagine having closed pedestrian spaces with nice landscaping between each store/building.

These are design choices that cities/ developers get wrong because they want parking in front of the store.

Essentially outdoor malls have to follow urban design principles to be successful other wise you're just building a shopping center. That's the difference between the two.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby The_Overdog » 18 Sep 2018 14:25

I was in California most of the summer and went to Fashion Island a few times, and it gets Texas hot there often, just not Texas humid. California just does a much better job than Texas with street trees, awnings and landscaping for their hot weather. For what its worth, Fashion Islands urban design is more equivalent to something like Collin Creek Mall than to NorthPark, but its internal design and architecture is much better than either.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby eburress » 18 Sep 2018 14:27

I agree. Most of the shopping I do in Palm Springs, which is hot AF (easily 115º+ in the summers), is outdoor. Among other things, stores place misters above the sidewalks and patios which helps to keep things "cool" outdoors in the dead of summer.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby Warrior2015 » 18 Sep 2018 15:30

eburress wrote:I agree. Most of the shopping I do in Palm Springs, which is hot AF (easily 115º+ in the summers), is outdoor. Among other things, stores place misters above the sidewalks and patios which helps to keep things "cool" outdoors in the dead of summer.

Right, and yet you still see thousands of people wandering the streets downtown palm springs and sitting on the patios enjoying dinner with friends and family. I dont buy the "it's too hot" thing bc so many cities that are hotter or just as hot as dallas have plenty of people outdoors in the peak of summer. It's just in Dallas the city is built mainly for cars and indoors, that's why most would prefer not to be outdoors during those temps.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby Kelley USA » 18 Sep 2018 15:52

Well, we keep bringing up the heat but there are also other weather factors too... 1) We get significantly more rainfall than Southern California. 2) We also have 3 months of winter where temps regularly drop into the 40's, 30's and even the 20's. Now, with that being said I too actually agree that weather should not be a factor... Look no further than Southlake to see a very successful outdoor shopping center (winter, spring, summer, fall). I enjoy walking around the Town Square in the Fall and Winter doing a little shopping. And I LOVE the heat so that's never a factor for me.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby Butters » 20 Sep 2018 00:09

As a male shopper Eddie Bauer, Brooks Brothers, Gap, Banana Republic, Vineyard Vines and Lululemon were my only options at Southlake Town Square. They did at least have Apple. Went there once with my wife and said never again. I’d rather go to Legacy West which has a unique lineup that isn’t in every center if I go to an outdoor center in Big D. Parking is difficult but the food options are cool.

To each it’s own

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby dzh » 20 Sep 2018 07:09

I heard a rumor that Northpark is gearing up for a new expansion. Was even told a tenant like Eataly is in the mix. That being said, you just never know how fruitful hearing a rumor can be, so I just wanted to put this feeler out there and see if anybody had heard any similar rumors recently.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 20 Sep 2018 08:52

For me personally, Southlake Towncenter didn't have anything I needed. I was always a NorthPark shopper but they have started drifting a little further in an upscale direction that I am not willing to follow.

As for the Eataly/NorthPark expansion rumor. There is always a NorthPark expansion rumor. Always. When the front loaders show up and start turning parking lots into soil again give me a call.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby tamtagon » 20 Sep 2018 09:30

I would look for expansion/renovation in this order: NorthPark Retail Office Hotel - Carruth Plaza rebuild - NorthPark Retail Office Hotel - Greenville Avenue rebuild.

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Re: Northpark Center

Postby Kelley USA » 20 Sep 2018 09:42

I know it's a mall that for the most has struggled, but I really like what Willow Bend is doing right now- especially with the new dining district decks. That's something I could see being implemented at NorthPark with an Eataly being part of that.


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