Butters wrote:The weather makes Fashion Island and Century City a fun place to hang out. I'd add Stanford shopping center and Ala Moana in Honolulu in this category too. Dallas weather however is comparing apples and oranges. Way to many hot days to walk outside in comfort.
While I agree that Dallas weather isn't ideal; i also think it's a matter of archecture / design..
When I stayed abroad in Madrid, a landlocked , hot city, with concrete everywhere..with similar summer temps as Dallas..I frequnted both urban and suburban out door malls.
I simply don't buy that you can't have a successful outdoor mall in a hot place.
Centro Commercial Principal Pío is an example of such thing. Essentially the mall is built around a plaza space. Where you have buildings that house the stores but you have plaza space/ sidewalks that are landscaped enough to provide adequate shade. The buildings are situated close enough where the walk is short and tolerable.
One of the biggest reasons this fails here is because the surface parking lots and how they're situated. Looking at Firewheel Mall, we see that there are large department stores that have huge swaths of parking BETWEEN them.
Rather than having the stores in close proximity to each other we separate them with parking lots. That's the main thing. Don't you think Firewheel would be way better if the Large department stores where next to each other? Imagine having closed pedestrian spaces with nice landscaping between each store/building.
These are design choices that cities/ developers get wrong because they want parking in front of the store.
Essentially outdoor malls have to follow urban design principles to be successful other wise you're just building a shopping center. That's the difference between the two.