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Victory Park 3.0

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby Hwulivn » 26 May 2018 10:42

tamtagon wrote:
ArtVandelay wrote:IMO North End is the biggest barrier to connectivity between VP and Uptown.

Would love to see that redeveloped.


I think most of the North End real estate should be turned into a Natural History park.


Wow. That is a very interesting idea. That could be a huge draw for the downtown area, but I’m not sure it would make sense financially since I’m sure that property is very valuable at this point.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby tamtagon » 26 May 2018 11:36

^The museum and others are lobbying the city for >$100 million to build an office building, parking and walking deck from KWPark to the museum, so why not lobby to use that much money to create another park? Better yet, the Perot family can donate that much money again to create another park, building up and securing the legacy of the Perot Museum of Nature and Science; a donation like that would allow the city to make the Museum and KWPark a nexus of sorts of pedestrian-cycling trails from Katy Trail and Ron Kirk Pedestrian Bridge etc....

and we should've learned by now that cultural institution and park investments are about the most beneficial all-around initiatives/actions a city can make.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby DAFW » 28 May 2018 03:28

^The museum and others are lobbying the city for >$100 million to build an office building, parking and walking deck from KWPark to the museum, so why not lobby to use that much money to create another park? Better yet, the Perot family can donate that much money again to create another park, building up and securing the legacy of the Perot Museum of Nature and Science; a donation like that would allow the city to make the Museum and KWPark a nexus of sorts of pedestrian-cycling trails from Katy Trail and Ron Kirk Pedestrian Bridge etc....

and we should've learned by now that cultural institution and park investments are about the most beneficial all-around initiatives/actions a city can make.


I love it! Time for Tamtagon to run for mayor!

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby mdg109 » 11 Jun 2018 00:32

I forgot which restaurant this is, but the finish it out is really nice (corner of Victory and Museum Way). Once Cinepolis and a few more restaurants open up, I think it's going to feel like West Village 2.0.
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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby ContriveDallasite » 11 Jun 2018 02:13

Wow, that looks fantastic. Now why can't we just get more residential midrises like this?

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby Kelley USA » 11 Jun 2018 09:18

I drove by this weekend and it did look really good! This is the new concept by Tristan Simon- the guy that founded concepts like Fireside Pies, The Porch, Hibiscus, Victor Tango's... I believe the photo is going to be his take on a modern Texas Saloon. I'm thinking maybe something similar to The Porch concept?? This corner, along with Mesero across the street is going to bring some energy to the area. I love the way VP is shaping up!

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby nth016 » 13 Jun 2018 14:13

The parking lot in front of The W where the new residential tower has been proposed has been closed off and they have spray painted on the asphalt utility indicators for Oncor, etc. I'm assuming this project is moving forward and construction is imminent.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby R1070 » 13 Jun 2018 19:19

I hope so! If we could just the the Hines office building going up down the street that one would take up a significant surface lot along the DART line.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 14 Jun 2018 08:15

I would watch the Hillwood site first before the Hines site. Hillwood is ready to go and asked the city for a stay on their application until July. They know how fast/slow the city moves on these things but let's hope they are waiting on an Amazon announcement to make some changes to their buildings square footage.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby Roman_Patrick » 14 Jun 2018 08:19

nth016 wrote:The parking lot in front of The W where the new residential tower has been proposed has been closed off and they have spray painted on the asphalt utility indicators for Oncor, etc. I'm assuming this project is moving forward and construction is imminent.


That is so exciting!
thanks for sharing!

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby PonyUp13 » 14 Jun 2018 20:15

Word is Hines is shopping for a lead tenant very aggressively. They’re no longer involved in One Victory but obviously have relationships with the people there and they just need somebody large like HaynesBoone or PCB to move to jump-start Victory Place or whatever they’re calling it now.

I walked to Freshii yesterday from OVP and it is FINALLY starting to feel like it’s coming together and gelling down there.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby R1070 » 14 Jun 2018 21:56

I drove through there yesterday and it was the first time I was like Wow. People were walking around and the mix of shops and restaurants is really creating a good mix. I know it would seem weird, but the Hard Rock would probably do a lot better closer to the AAC in this area. A lot of people don't even know we have a Hard Rock Cafe.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby exelone31 » 15 Jun 2018 16:21

https://www.guidelive.com/food-and-drink/2018/06/15/after-abacus-chef-kent-rathbun-imoto-new-dallas-restaurant-open

Imoto opens Friday, June 15, in a neighborhood the Rathbuns think is an interesting new option for Dallas diners.


I believe this one was slated to open June 8th, but was pushed back a tad.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby Warrior2015 » 15 Jun 2018 21:29

nth016 wrote:The parking lot in front of The W where the new residential tower has been proposed has been closed off and they have spray painted on the asphalt utility indicators for Oncor, etc. I'm assuming this project is moving forward and construction is imminent.

This is the lot for the 39 story apartment tower right ?

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby R1070 » 15 Jun 2018 21:52

Yes, but I saw a sign there that said the entrance was closed temporarily. Hmm...

I really want to see this one go up as well as the one next to the Museum Tower. I hope they make it out of the ground this cycle.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby Warrior2015 » 15 Jun 2018 22:34

R1070 wrote:Yes, but I saw a sign there that said the entrance was closed temporarily. Hmm...

I really want to see this one go up as well as the one next to the Museum Tower. I hope they make it out of the ground this cycle.

Dang hope it goes up soon too and I'm pretty confident that the one by museum tower will be starting soon. Hopefully haha

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby Cord1936 » 18 Jun 2018 19:56

R1070 wrote:Yes, but I saw a sign there that said the entrance was closed temporarily. Hmm...

I really want to see this one go up as well as the one next to the Museum Tower. I hope they make it out of the ground this cycle.

^^^^^^^
Not sure why people are acting like the good days are over or nearing an end in Dallas ... all of the important data is suggesting the opposite ... instead of a slowdown things are actually picking up ... and strengthening above the already red hot levels we've been seeing:

Driven by In-Migration, Dallas-Fort Worth Population Growth Tops the Nation
Demographic Trends Boosting Commercial Real Estate in the Metroplex
By David Kahn, CoStar Real Estate Group, June 15, 2018

Dallas-Fort Worth has added about 1.1 million new residents since 2010, about the same number as Houston.
...
The most recent numbers are excellent for Dallas-Fort Worth.

According to the U.S. Census, D-FW added 146,000 new residents in 2017, topping second place Houston by more than 50,000 people.

More importantly, the most recent job numbers were incredible, with nominal job growth of about 125,000 year-over-year, as of March 2018.

This marks an acceleration in job growth compared to previous months. Dallas-Fort Worth was already the strongest job market in the country: now it’s even stronger.

The combination of outstanding population growth, in-migration and job growth creates a virtuous cycle for the metro’s economy, and helps drive demand for commercial real estate. Strong population growth, job growth and in-migration should continue to power the Dallas-Fort Worth commercial real estate industry for years to come.

Article: http://www.costar.com/News/Article/Driv ... ion/201928

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby willyk » 18 Jun 2018 21:16

Imoto is open. Billy Can Can, Kessler Pies and Orange Theory are nearly there.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 19 Jun 2018 08:09

The reason some believe this cycle is quieting down is that construction has slowed even before Trump put in place those tariffs wildly increasing the cost of construction materials. The city of Dallas alone has seen a drop in new start permits and applications for development despite parciticapting in the solid population growth. The DFW market itself has seen a dip, as well as new inventory, comes on the market. More than a few projects are also sitting around not starting construction in areas that seem like a slam dunk.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby Warrior2015 » 19 Jun 2018 08:53

I spoke with the lady at the front desk at The 23 and she said construction is wrapping up on the movie theater and should be opening late July/early August.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby Kelley USA » 19 Jun 2018 09:15

Great article in the DMN on Billy Can Can…

https://www.guidelive.com/food-and-drin ... 1529416800

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby tamtagon » 19 Jun 2018 09:19

11,500 people live in the neighborhood? Hum

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby DBadger » 19 Jun 2018 10:54

It's interesting that he is a resident of the Cedars. Didn't know that. Maybe its time for one of his new concepts in the Cedars as well.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby exelone31 » 19 Jun 2018 12:53

I am really curious to see how this next generation of restaurants fares in Victory Park. I like the commitment to trying things that are a little bit outside the box.

The Westworld comparison in the article seems like a really good analogy for what they're trying to go for.

I also really want to know what a "parking lot bar" is.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby willyk » 19 Jun 2018 20:03

I like the unconventional offerings. That is what it will take to get the Uptownees to brave a trip across Field St. to come here.

That said, I hope we see a few more conventional offerings for the residents and the AAC crowd. I’d like to see Snuffer’s, Torchy Taco and Flying Fish to name a few.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby R1070 » 19 Jun 2018 21:54

I've said it before. I even think the Hard Rock would be much more visible if it were next to the AAC. Most people have no idea there even is one.


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