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Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

Postby Kelley USA » 16 Aug 2018 14:09

Looks like Gables & Retail Street Advisors released a Press Release today on Water Street. As a result we're getting a few articles out now on tenants (nothing we haven't already mentioned though).

dallas.culturemap.com/news/restaurants-bars/08-16-18-water-street-olivellas-cork-pig-hugos/

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/res ... pizza-ribs

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Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

Postby TXGunLover » 16 Aug 2018 14:13

ContriveDallasite wrote:
TXGunLover wrote:
tamtagon wrote:Las Colinas needs a good museum.

I would argue it needs a better public school district first, instead of CFB.


I am a product of the CFB school system - compared to the alternative of Irving ISD, I do not know what your complaint is. I grew up in the Hackberry area and had friends living less than a mile apart who were in the Coppell ISD and Irving ISD, I would agree that it would be more rational if the school zone boundaries were more rationally drawn as to actually reflect the geography of the neighborhood.


Recommend you check txschools.org related to yesterday's published scores. Make no mistake CFB is much better than ISD... but not comparable to other growing, professional areas of north Texas.

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Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

Postby muncien » 17 Aug 2018 09:50

TXGunLover wrote:
ContriveDallasite wrote:
TXGunLover wrote:I would argue it needs a better public school district first, instead of CFB.


I am a product of the CFB school system - compared to the alternative of Irving ISD, I do not know what your complaint is. I grew up in the Hackberry area and had friends living less than a mile apart who were in the Coppell ISD and Irving ISD, I would agree that it would be more rational if the school zone boundaries were more rationally drawn as to actually reflect the geography of the neighborhood.


Recommend you check txschools.org related to yesterday's published scores. Make no mistake CFB is much better than ISD... but not comparable to other growing, professional areas of north Texas.


If I'm not mistaken, the LC Urban Center actually falls under Irving ISD (getting better... but has a LONG way to go), while everything north of the Urban Center goes to Carrolton/Farmers Branch ISD (better, but nothing special). The west half of Valley Ranch, and the Cypress Waters area both go to Coppell ISD (I think top seven district in the whole state).

It is a bit of a confusing mess, and simply crossing a street can have huge home value impacts. While I don't see much hope for many of these districts competing with the top tier schools, I do think there is hope for leveling the playing field to around the CFBISD level. Time will tell...

More importantly, I would love to see an environment where parents had more choice, and schools could compete against each other. Until then, the LC Urban Center will likely remain a place for young couples without families, and possibly empty nesters. But there's really nothing wrong with that.
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Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

Postby TXGunLover » 17 Aug 2018 09:55

muncien wrote:
TXGunLover wrote:
ContriveDallasite wrote:Until then, the LC Urban Center will likely remain a place for young couples without families, and possibly empty nesters. But there's really nothing wrong with that.


Other than, the population demographics in the area cannot support such growth in entertainment as seen in areas such as Frisco... I agree.

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Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

Postby Kelley USA » 17 Aug 2018 13:40

The Blue Star / Lincoln Property Development at 114 and 161 is coming before P&Z this Monday. They're seeking approval for 4 lots on about 30 acres. Good to see it moving forward. Will be curious to see what they have planned. I know previously the talk was that a Sandman Signature Hotel with a Moxie's restaurant would be built here. The one they just built in Plano is pretty nice and has a Moxie's on one end a Shark Club Sports Bar on the other end.

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Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

Postby muncien » 17 Aug 2018 13:53

Kelley USA wrote:The Blue Star / Lincoln Property Development at 114 and 161 is coming before P&Z this Monday. They're seeking approval for 4 lots on about 30 acres. Good to see it moving forward. Will be curious to see what they have planned. I know previously the talk was that a Sandman Signature Hotel with a Moxie's restaurant would be built here. The one they just built in Plano is pretty nice and has a Moxie's on one end a Shark Club Sports Bar on the other end.


Fingers crossed... That definitely sounds better than what was previously proposed. Those P&Z meetings are open to the public, right?
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Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

Postby TXGunLover » 17 Aug 2018 13:56

Was iPic possibly originally going into that dev or am I thinking of something else?

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Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

Postby muncien » 17 Aug 2018 13:58

TXGunLover wrote:Was iPic possibly originally going into that dev or am I thinking of something else?

They were... But, I think that was three or four iterations ago. :)
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Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

Postby Kelley USA » 17 Aug 2018 14:11

muncien wrote:
Kelley USA wrote:The Blue Star / Lincoln Property Development at 114 and 161 is coming before P&Z this Monday. They're seeking approval for 4 lots on about 30 acres. Good to see it moving forward. Will be curious to see what they have planned. I know previously the talk was that a Sandman Signature Hotel with a Moxie's restaurant would be built here. The one they just built in Plano is pretty nice and has a Moxie's on one end a Shark Club Sports Bar on the other end.


Fingers crossed... That definitely sounds better than what was previously proposed. Those P&Z meetings are open to the public, right?


Yes, they are open to the public. They hold them in the same forum that the City Council meetings are held. You can actually watch live online too, or even on the local Government channels. Yes, iPic was part of another development way back in the day that also had Central Market as a possible tenant. Obviously it never materialized and so iPic backed out.

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Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

Postby Kelley USA » 27 Aug 2018 10:13

It looks like the Blue Star Property at 114 and 161 passed P&Z on Monday. I drove by the site and noticed a new sign had been put up for a company called Stantec. It's a fairly large Global Architecture firm. Hopefully this means we'll see something about this project sooner rather than later.

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Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

Postby Kelley USA » 27 Aug 2018 15:16

Lupe Tortilla has pulled permits for their restaurant off 635. It's going to be built right next door to Walk-Ons. This will be the 2nd DFW location for the chain. The first location will be in Addison.

I also went to Whiskey Cake for brunch on Sunday. Got there about 10:45 and the place was already pretty crowded. Sat at the bar and had some chicken & waffles. Fantastic! What a great addition for Las Colinas, although selfishly I wish it was on the 114 side and closer to the Urban Center. However I think this is the type of place draws a good base from Coppell, Grapevine, Flower Mound etc...

New signage continues to go up at Water Street. Cork & Pig added a new sign on the O'Connor side and the signs for Hugo's Invitados have gone up. I peeked in the window at Hugo's and the place looks more like a disaster than it did a few weeks ago. I think what's happening is that as they go through the build process they keep changing their mind on colors, flooring, lighting etc... They probably want to make sure they get it right since this is the first location of what I assume will be others!

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Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

Postby TXGunLover » 27 Aug 2018 15:24

Mexican Sugar will be right next to Whiskey Cake in addition to Lupe's and Walk-Ons.

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Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

Postby Kelley USA » 27 Aug 2018 16:05

TXGunLover wrote:Mexican Sugar will be right next to Whiskey Cake in addition to Lupe's and Walk-Ons.


Hmmm, interesting. I knew that Front Burner had bought the lot next door as well, but the original site plan showed Sixty Vines. I think either would be a good fit to be honest!

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Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

Postby TXGunLover » 27 Aug 2018 16:19

Sadly they dumped sixty vine
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Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

Postby Kelley USA » 30 Aug 2018 09:12

I ran across this article... Pretty cool! I think this is part of the old Research in Motion campus.

https://healthcare.dmagazine.com/2018/0 ... s-colinas/

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Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

Postby muncien » 30 Aug 2018 09:19

^^^^
Very cool to see this coming to LC!
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Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

Postby vman » 06 Sep 2018 07:29

As a relatively new resident of Las Colinas/Irving, I explore the entire city, not just Las Colinas. If I hadn't, I never would have known of the beautiful neighborhoods in Irving south of 114 and yes, some south of 183. Neighborhoods that have some actual character, unlike most of the bland incredibly bland neighborhoods north of 114.
I almost purchased a townhome off 635, put we decided on one south of 114 in an area that had some type of diversity as opposed to the boring mess that is the 635 corridor. Anyway, I recently drove down 183 and there's lots of new home construction, new retail and a very good refacing and clean up job is being done on Irving Baylor hospital. I recently read articles about the redeveloping of Southwest Center Mall, Wynnewood Village, and some mall in Plano. It puzzles me that Irving Mall is never in the redevelopment discussion. Given the location and the redo of 183, this area should be on the redevelopment radar.

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Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

Postby itsjrd1964 » 06 Sep 2018 16:25

vman wrote:, and some mall in Plano. It puzzles me that Irving Mall is never in the redevelopment discussion.


I believe that would be Collin Creek you referred to in Plano. As for Irving Mall, I'm not sure. It definitely has the eyeball count per day, but it's been allowed to devolve into a sad strange multi-use with the occasional criminal element and TV news coverage to go with it. If there weren't shopping areas farther out, there would probably be more of an attraction there, besides the growing retail-closure/rise-of-online-shopping factor. Several of the sad/dying/emptying malls seem to have ownership/management lethargy. Valley View and Prestonwood were both that way. Collin Creek wasn't much better. I guess some of the other malls that have gone or are going here have had various versions of that problem.

You're one of the few I've heard about that actually tries to broaden their focus as far as home and/or daily living in a town, beyond the shiny and new.

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Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

Postby Kelley USA » 06 Sep 2018 16:37

University Hills just south of 114 is one of my favorite neighborhoods. Beautiful area, rolling hills, great older homes, well kept, nice views from the top of some hills. Homes rarely come on the market in this neighborhood.

As for Irving Mall, I just don't know. I think you'd really need to attract the affluent shoppers and apartment dwellers of Las Colinas to make it work. It might sound a bit strange (and I looked it up to make sure I wasn't crazy) but it's actually quicker and basically the same distance for me to get from my apartment in Las Colinas to both the Galleria and Grapevine Mills. I'm not saying Irving Mall doesn't have it's place. They still have over 120 retailers inside the mall so it's FAR from being another Red Bird or Valley View.

But I have been impressed with the way things are shaping up along 183. It's long overdue and makes a much better presentation for Irving!

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Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

Postby muncien » 07 Sep 2018 09:26

I happened to walk through Irving mall a month or so ago while I was having my car stereo worked on a Best Buy. I have always been surprised by that mall's ability to not only survive, but actually thrive (for it's age anyway). There are very few empty store fronts (food court are is the exception), and there always seems to be a good crowd. Other than grabbing a super cheap margarita at Los Lupes, there is nothing in this mall that I needed. But with that said, it seems to fit the diverse demographics of South Irving quite well, and therefore it will likely be around for quite some time.
Contrast that with Valley View Mall... OMG, I watched a movie at AMC a couple weeks ago and decided to walk through the mall. Seems like something out of one of those post apocalyptic movies. Yikes! You could seriously drive a go cart full speed through the main corridors and never have to use the brakes. I actually thought it would make a great indoor go cart track... lol

@Kelly - Great shout out to University Hills! I nearly bought a property there back during the recession, and wish I had. Quite possibly my favorite neighborhood in all of N. Texas. I don't know anywhere else that you can find the same architectural diversity, geography, and quality of upkeep as you can there.
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Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

Postby Kelley USA » 10 Sep 2018 09:14

Olivella's Pizza at Water Street is opening this Wednesday. The place looks great! Also, I peeked inside the Hugo's Invitados space. Wow, they are spending some $$ on the finish-out. Looks beautiful. They also started building out their patio space. I think this could become the "it" restaurant in Las Colinas (or at least in the Urban Center).

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Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

Postby ContriveDallasite » 11 Sep 2018 09:02

Kelley USA wrote:Olivella's Pizza at Water Street is opening this Wednesday. The place looks great! Also, I peeked inside the Hugo's Invitados space. Wow, they are spending some $$ on the finish-out. Looks beautiful. They also started building out their patio space. I think this could become the "it" restaurant in Las Colinas (or at least in the Urban Center).


Hate to be the one to ask, could someone post some picture updates of Pioneer HQ, Water Street and the Convention Center hotels? Won't make it back to Dallas this year, but very curious about the way things look!

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Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

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Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

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Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

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That exterior has a nice look


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