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Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

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Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Postby The_Overdog » 05 Nov 2018 08:56

it is very difficult and expensive to build parking underground since you hit limestone after going 10 feet underground.


That may be true, but there's a storage unit going up near my home that is currently digging 20+ feet underground, so I think the expense and difficulty of building underground in DFW is mostly worth it now, at least for commercial buildings, and it wouldn't surprise me if some new-build single family homes in inner city lots start getting basements in the next decade.

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 05 Nov 2018 16:23

Let me be clear I understand the business side of the argument of underground vs above ground parking but I will always have a distaste for massive parking above ground.

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Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Postby Reignofcane » 08 Nov 2018 11:22

They are assembling the crane today.

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Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Postby Redblock » 18 Nov 2018 19:09

They finished erecting the crane on Saturday, November 17.

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Postby dallaz » 14 May 2019 13:43

Finally able to contribute pics
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Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Postby DBadger » 14 May 2019 15:01

dallaz wrote:Finally able to contribute pics

Is there a step by step on how to attach pictures to this forum?
I tried and failed miserably before.
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Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Postby R1070 » 14 May 2019 19:10

Do we know if this hotel will have a flag? I saw someone on the construction fencing mentioning “Swiss”.

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Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Postby NdoorTX » 14 May 2019 19:39

9B9D6794-3514-4780-BA7E-C5D29A6A4DCD.png
First thought was Soffitel, but that’s French. Maybe Swissotel??
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Postby itsjrd1964 » 15 May 2019 03:30

NdoorTX wrote:9B9D6794-3514-4780-BA7E-C5D29A6A4DCD.pngFirst thought was Soffitel, but that’s French. Maybe Swissotel??


If so, Swissotel is an Accor brand (company that used to own Motel 6/Studio 6). They only have 1 North American location, in Chicago on Wacker Drive overlooking the Chicago River. Elsewhere: Australia (1), Bosnia-Herzegovina (1), Bulgaria (1 later this year), China (3 now, 1 in 2021), Ecuador (1), Egypt (1 in 2020), Estonia (1), Germany (1), India (1), Indonesia (1 later this year, 1 in 2020), Japan (1), Netherlands (1), Peru (1), Russia (2), Saudi Arabia (2 now, 1 in 2020), Singapore (2), Switzerland (2), Thailand (3), Turkey (4), and United Arab Emirates (2). So if this property is named as a Swissotel, Dallas would be in rare company. As Accor recently acquired the Fairmont brand, Fairmont is already represented in DTD at Akard/Ross, so that hotel would be a sister branded hotel if the upcoming property in Uptown does become a Swissotel.

http://www.swissotel.com
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss%C3%B4tel

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Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Postby Matt777 » 15 May 2019 09:29

itsjrd1964 wrote:
NdoorTX wrote:9B9D6794-3514-4780-BA7E-C5D29A6A4DCD.pngFirst thought was Soffitel, but that’s French. Maybe Swissotel??


If so, Swissotel is an Accor brand (company that used to own Motel 6/Studio 6). They only have 1 North American location, in Chicago on Wacker Drive overlooking the Chicago River. Elsewhere: Australia (1), Bosnia-Herzegovina (1), Bulgaria (1 later this year), China (3 now, 1 in 2021), Ecuador (1), Egypt (1 in 2020), Estonia (1), Germany (1), India (1), Indonesia (1 later this year, 1 in 2020), Japan (1), Netherlands (1), Peru (1), Russia (2), Saudi Arabia (2 now, 1 in 2020), Singapore (2), Switzerland (2), Thailand (3), Turkey (4), and United Arab Emirates (2). So if this property is named as a Swissotel, Dallas would be in rare company. As Accor recently acquired the Fairmont brand, Fairmont is already represented in DTD at Akard/Ross, so that hotel would be a sister branded hotel if the upcoming property in Uptown does become a Swissotel.

http://www.swissotel.com
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss%C3%B4tel


Speaking of the Fairmount, boy do they need to remodel their downtown property or build a new one. It looks so dated, especially compared to the super modern one in Austin.

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Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Postby Tordown » 15 May 2019 11:33

The family that founded Harwood is Swiss.

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Postby Tnexster » 15 May 2019 14:36

Matt777 wrote:
itsjrd1964 wrote:
NdoorTX wrote:9B9D6794-3514-4780-BA7E-C5D29A6A4DCD.pngFirst thought was Soffitel, but that’s French. Maybe Swissotel??


If so, Swissotel is an Accor brand (company that used to own Motel 6/Studio 6). They only have 1 North American location, in Chicago on Wacker Drive overlooking the Chicago River. Elsewhere: Australia (1), Bosnia-Herzegovina (1), Bulgaria (1 later this year), China (3 now, 1 in 2021), Ecuador (1), Egypt (1 in 2020), Estonia (1), Germany (1), India (1), Indonesia (1 later this year, 1 in 2020), Japan (1), Netherlands (1), Peru (1), Russia (2), Saudi Arabia (2 now, 1 in 2020), Singapore (2), Switzerland (2), Thailand (3), Turkey (4), and United Arab Emirates (2). So if this property is named as a Swissotel, Dallas would be in rare company. As Accor recently acquired the Fairmont brand, Fairmont is already represented in DTD at Akard/Ross, so that hotel would be a sister branded hotel if the upcoming property in Uptown does become a Swissotel.

http://www.swissotel.com
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss%C3%B4tel


Speaking of the Fairmount, boy do they need to remodel their downtown property or build a new one. It looks so dated, especially compared to the super modern one in Austin.


Great idea but I vote for new high profile hotel downtown and let the old buildings get converted to residential. Lots of room for a new Fairmont somewhere else.

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Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Postby Hannibal Lecter » 15 May 2019 14:48

Tnexster wrote:Great idea but I vote for new high profile hotel downtown and let the old buildings get converted to residential.


That's ironic. The Fairmont complex was originally designed to be condos. They ran out of money during construction, and the unfinished buildings sat there as massive eyesores on the skyline for three years until Fairmont bought them.

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Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Postby Matt777 » 15 May 2019 15:12

Hannibal Lecter wrote:
Tnexster wrote:Great idea but I vote for new high profile hotel downtown and let the old buildings get converted to residential.


That's ironic. The Fairmont complex was originally designed to be condos. They ran out of money during construction, and the unfinished buildings sat there as massive eyesores on the skyline for three years until Fairmont bought them.


Yup. It could actually be an attractive building if they ripped out the 1980's granite base that was added later on, and went back to a 1960's modern design. Paint the structure white, replace the glass windows, add new lighting in the overhangs on each floor, and some plants and splashes of color. Voila, midcentury modern highrise.

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Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Postby maconahey » 09 Jul 2019 13:53

Harwood International introduces Swexan Hotel, Dallas’ very first boutique luxury hotel with an invigorating interpretation of how the modern day hotel should be

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https://harwoodinternational.com/harwood12-2

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Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Postby eburress » 09 Jul 2019 14:15

I like this design A LOT more than the previous version! Thanks for posting!

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Postby Kelley USA » 09 Jul 2019 14:18

Okay, I dig it! So Swexan is basically a combo of the words Swiss & Texan?!

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Postby The_Overdog » 09 Jul 2019 15:24

Okay, I dig it! So Swexan is basically a combo of the words Swiss & Texan?!


So one year after it's built, the "W" burns out (I swear those fluorescent lights have a wider variation in quality than college football teams) and it's going to be the Sexan Hotel?

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Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Postby exelone31 » 09 Jul 2019 15:34

Looks cool, hope it turns out as translucent in real life.

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Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 09 Jul 2019 16:43

exelone31 wrote:Looks cool, hope it turns out as translucent in real life.

Hopefully this time Harwood delivers.

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Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Postby mwaskow » 10 Jul 2019 11:58

This rendering is a lot better than the previous one.

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Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Postby Alpaca_Obsessor » 11 Jul 2019 02:57

To quote a user from the Skyscraperpage Dallas Thread:

Did, did they just shove a plantation house in on the 5th floor?

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Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 11 Jul 2019 09:18

Yeah, the Gone with the Wind windows seems more random than strategically placed. I assume that's supposed to be our Texas Southern influence...

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Postby exelone31 » 11 Jul 2019 12:19

cowboyeagle05 wrote:Yeah, the Gone with the Wind windows seems more random than strategically placed. I assume that's supposed to be our Texas Southern influence...


I think you mean "Swexas"

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Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Postby Tnexster » 11 Jul 2019 15:40

Did that rendering disappear from Harwood's website? I can't find it.

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 11 Jul 2019 17:48

Looks like they took that page down from the website...

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Postby CTroyMathis » 11 Jul 2019 22:38

It's been cached quite well though.

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/ ... clnk&gl=us

And, the image gets quite large:

https://harwoodinternational.com/wp-con ... 2-web2.jpg

But, we gotta talk about this word Swexan. Not so sure about that, but, they've been using it for things since late 2017. They've even gone through a trademark process that I haven't followed-up on any time recently.

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Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Postby Otronivel81 » 12 Jul 2019 08:17

Hopefully those horizontal bands don't end up nasty looking like that SMU building on 75.

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Postby exelone31 » 12 Jul 2019 08:36

"Quick! To the trademark office! We must protect the name 'Swexan' at all costs. Once our competitors hear it, they will be falling all over themselves to steal it!"

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Postby homeworld1031tx » 12 Jul 2019 10:45

exelone31 wrote:"Quick! To the trademark office! We must protect the name 'Swexan' at all costs. Once our competitors hear it, they will be falling all over themselves to steal it!"


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Postby Tnexster » 12 Jul 2019 11:48

To be totally honest I really don't care for the name Swexan.

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Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Postby LongonBigD » 12 Jul 2019 18:44

I dunno about the eyebrow windows. They look very 1990 suburban tract house. Meh. Those chandeliers will be a huge liability during on of our spring wind gusts.

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 13 Jul 2019 11:01

DALLAS the series, your windows are calling...


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