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Uptown Dallas: The Quadrangle

Postby dallaz » 31 Jan 2019 13:05

Uptown's landmark Quadrangle complex sells to Dallas' Stream Realty Partners


https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... y-partners

"Our vision is to restore the Quadrangle's place as the premier mixed-use property in Uptown, which will require some of the same daring ideas that made it great in the first place."


Stream Realty officials say that the property "possesses significant additional development potential given its location in the center of Uptown."

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Re: Uptown Dallas: The Quadrangle

Postby Cbdallas » 31 Jan 2019 14:59

I used to eat at 8.0 and Quadrangle Grill back in the eighties and then it was the only real semi urban experience in Dallas as there was really not much else down there at the time. I always thought that it would get developed first with dense high rise apartments and mixed use yet it has stood still while everything else grew around it. Would love to see this dream fully realized.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: The Quadrangle

Postby DPatel304 » 31 Jan 2019 17:05

I'd love to see them find a way to eliminate all the surface parking spaces surrounding this development and connecting it better with its surroundings, but I have a feeling they will just update the interior of the office space.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: The Quadrangle

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 31 Jan 2019 17:17

They will probably play around with patios facing outward and modifying the parking plan to accommodate valet and Uber/Lyft pick ups and drop offs better. New landscaping and maybe a big new tenant of some sort if they can figure out how to put in some big name tenant and still have easy access that tenant wants for parking. I doubt they could ever get a Trader Joes sized tenant in there but something with that kind of everyday use certainly would make it a go-to spot for more daily trips rather than the evening dinner & bar scene it a part of now.

Is the Sigels a separate parcel?
A more aggressive plan would see them tearing down the back half replacing it with a denser development with more parking underground to accommodate something else like residential or more office space.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: The Quadrangle

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Re: Uptown Dallas: The Quadrangle

Postby DPatel304 » 25 Jul 2019 14:26

Stream Realty plans to build a 335,000-square-foot office tower at the north end of the Quadrangle site. The building will replace a section of existing retail space on Howell Street.

The surface lots that now serve the complex will be replaced with new construction and wide, landscaped walkways.

One of the biggest changes is planned for the corner of Routh and Howell, where the existing retail building will be replaced with a collection of small freestanding eateries and shops.

Stream Realty hopes to start construction in the middle of next year and have the project ready for tenants by 2022.


This sounds like an excellent improvement! When I heard improvements were being made to the Quandrangle, I set my expectations low thinking they may just re-skin the exterior and upgrade the interior, but I'm so happy to hear they plan to re-develop the surface lots.

Also, does this mean BBC is being replaced by these smaller eateries and shops?

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Re: Uptown Dallas: The Quadrangle

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Re: Uptown Dallas: The Quadrangle

Postby DPatel304 » 25 Jul 2019 15:27

Yes, I love it! I was hoping they would do something like this ever since I heard about the development across the street (which will also have some sort of pedestrian corridor running through it).

This part of Uptown is going to be completely different once these two developments are finished, and we also potentially have another development replacing the Gingerman and another replacing the former PL8 building not too far away.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: The Quadrangle

Postby Tnexster » 25 Jul 2019 16:57

This is long overdue. Glad to see it!

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Re: Uptown Dallas: The Quadrangle

Postby uptown74 » 25 Jul 2019 19:23

DPatel304 wrote:
Stream Realty plans to build a 335,000-square-foot office tower at the north end of the Quadrangle site. The building will replace a section of existing retail space on Howell Street.

The surface lots that now serve the complex will be replaced with new construction and wide, landscaped walkways.

One of the biggest changes is planned for the corner of Routh and Howell, where the existing retail building will be replaced with a collection of small freestanding eateries and shops.

Stream Realty hopes to start construction in the middle of next year and have the project ready for tenants by 2022.


This sounds like an excellent improvement! When I heard improvements were being made to the Quandrangle, I set my expectations low thinking they may just re-skin the exterior and upgrade the interior, but I'm so happy to hear they plan to re-develop the surface lots.

Also, does this mean BBC is being replaced by these smaller eateries and shops?


Looks like BBC, CrushCraft, TNT and Siegels will all get booted out.
And that rendering almost looks like the Amli Quadrangle apartments will be replaced by the office tower, although there was no mention of that in the article.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: The Quadrangle

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 25 Jul 2019 23:04

Sad to see crushcraft go. Hopefully residential / retail takes its place

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Re: Uptown Dallas: The Quadrangle

Postby lakewoodhobo » 26 Jul 2019 14:51

uptown74 wrote:Looks like BBC, CrushCraft, TNT and Siegels will all get booted out.
And that rendering almost looks like the Amli Quadrangle apartments will be replaced by the office tower, although there was no mention of that in the article.


You can see the Amli Quadrangle in the rendering between the new tower and the existing one. It took me a while to realize it, but the corner depicted here is Routh and Howell looking toward the Ginger Man.

Per the DMN story, "The existing eight-story office building, Theater Three and the retail buildings on the Laclede Street side of the project will remain in place," meaning everything from BBC to Sigel's is what will likely be demolished.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: The Quadrangle

Postby homeworld1031tx » 26 Jul 2019 15:07

Damn, sorry to see BBC go. One of the last good bars in uptown

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Re: Uptown Dallas: The Quadrangle

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 26 Jul 2019 17:36

Yeah, honestly I love me some BBC but doesn't mean they would permanently leave. They could be built in one of the new spaces.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: The Quadrangle

Postby joshua.dodd » 26 Jul 2019 19:46

I see what you did there lol

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Re: Uptown Dallas: The Quadrangle

Postby Lakewood2Uptown » 27 Jul 2019 17:13

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:Sad to see crushcraft go. Hopefully residential / retail takes its place

I hope Crushcraft reopens somewhere else in the area. It is my favorite grab-and-go restaurant in Uptown.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: The Quadrangle

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 28 Jul 2019 13:57

In some ways, I am almost more sad that the liquor is going away. I personally go to Goody Goody on Oak Lawn but I like easy access to liquor stores in urban areas like this and I doubt they will be a returning tenant in the new configuration.

Also, what's interesting is they appear to be keeping the section on Laclede Street which right now is the most unappealing section. At least Tacos & Tequila, BBC and Sigels are actually actively used despite the suburban design form. Really the only thing they aren't seriously touching is the office tower so the Quadrangle as we knew it will be a thing of the past.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: The Quadrangle

Postby lakewoodhobo » 29 Jul 2019 11:19

cowboyeagle05 wrote:In some ways, I am almost more sad that the liquor is going away. I personally go to Goody Goody on Oak Lawn but I like easy access to liquor stores in urban areas like this and I doubt they will be a returning tenant in the new configuration.


Goody is my go-to liquor store as well and I honestly forget that Sigel's is an option. I'd love to see them move to the Medical District if they're looking to relocate. And remember that Total Wine is under construction nearby.


cowboyeagle05 wrote: Also, what's interesting is they appear to be keeping the section on Laclede Street which right now is the most unappealing section. At least Tacos & Tequila, BBC and Sigels are actually actively used despite the suburban design form. Really the only thing they aren't seriously touching is the office tower so the Quadrangle as we knew it will be a thing of the past.


Agree, although Theatre 3 is staying and that's a big part of the Quadrangle as we know it. Hope the displaced restaurants return or relocate nearby.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: The Quadrangle

Postby Jay9398 » 29 Jul 2019 14:15

There's a liquor store at McKinney and Bowen like a 1/4 mile away.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: The Quadrangle

Postby Matt777 » 29 Jul 2019 14:25

lakewoodhobo wrote:
Agree, although Theatre 3 is staying and that's a big part of the Quadrangle as we know it. Hope the displaced restaurants return or relocate nearby.


I had never heard of Theatre 3 until now. I can't figure out what it is. Is it like a performance space, or an actual movie theater? Event space?

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Re: Uptown Dallas: The Quadrangle

Postby lakewoodhobo » 29 Jul 2019 14:41

Matt777 wrote:I had never heard of Theatre 3 until now. I can't figure out what it is. Is it like a performance space, or an actual movie theater? Event space?


It's a live performance theatre company that has been in the Quadrangle since 1969. I haven't been in years, but saw a performance of Avenue Q there not that long ago. Check it out: http://www.theatre3dallas.com

One thing I didn't know until now is that it was established in 1961 from the downtown Sheraton at Southland Center.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: The Quadrangle

Postby eburress » 07 Aug 2019 14:45

Looks great, and I really like the sidewalk improvements they're making!

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Re: Uptown Dallas: The Quadrangle

Postby Tnexster » 07 Aug 2019 14:47

That is a very fresh look, I like it! Desperately needed in the old Q.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: The Quadrangle

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 07 Aug 2019 15:13

Like it. A lot. More of this please.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: The Quadrangle

Postby DPatel304 » 07 Aug 2019 15:36

Love it very much! Thanks for sharing.

I'll have to hit up BBC one last time. The building itself isn't anything special, so I don't mind that it is being razed, but I do like the bar, and hope they can find a new home somewhere close.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: The Quadrangle

Postby mdg109 » 07 Aug 2019 22:22

Are retail buildings 3, 4, and 5 facing inward? I was really hoping Howell Street would still have some retail/restaurant facing the street.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: The Quadrangle

Postby eburress » 08 Aug 2019 12:34

I may be looking at it incorrectly but I *think* see entrances which also face Howell

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Re: Uptown Dallas: The Quadrangle

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 08 Aug 2019 13:17

Yeah, if you look closely at the sitemap versions it looks like there is sidewalk leading up to the doors on the street side. Honestly, the restaurant buildings design-wise seem not finalized. It kinda appears like they are getting a new concept/site plan approved. The office tower looks more detailed and the retail/restaurant space could be designed to final specifications after construction starts on the massive garage.


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