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Arts District: Master Plan

Postby Tnexster » 04 Nov 2016 17:31

Sneak a peek at the new master plan hoping to bring life — and more art — to Dallas' Arts District

http://www.dallasnews.com/arts/arts/201 ... s-district

Krieger, principal in the architecture firm NBBJ, intends to remedy all that -- and then some -- with a new master plan for the Dallas Arts District, which will replace the 33-year-old Sasaki Plan that provided the initial framework for the 17 blocks between Uptown and downtown. The new plan will make its formal bow Monday afternoon at Dallas City Hall.

The plan, in the works for almost a year, imagines the Arts District as a vibrant, connected neighborhood filled with shops, restaurants, residences and, most of all, people who aren't simply headed to or from the Dallas Museum of Art or the Winspear Opera House or the other venues that make up the district.

"We have these world-class institutions providing a number of free and world-class programs in their institutions," said Lily Cabuta Weiss, the former artistic director at Booker T. Washington High School for the Performing and Visual Arts who in April was named the Dallas Arts District's executive director.

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Re: Arts District: Master Plan

Postby willyk » 11 Nov 2016 04:26

Copying these posts from the Flora and Olive thread so we can get a general discussion going about the Arts District.

10 Nov 2016 04:26

tamtagon wrote:
So, this the last developable Flora Address in the Arts District, right? The city performance hall has a pending whenever plan that could change, but with Hall Condos seemingly on tap, this will be the last of it. I wouldn't be at all disappointed to see the Belo addition replaced with a welcoming street presence - actually that would be great - but I wonder if the lawyers association would go for something like that....


I was wondering about the same thing, especially since the Arts District says they want more residential there. So where would it go?

The big opportunities would be the Two Arts site, across Ross at the Spire site and the two Hall sites on either side of Ross. Someone could offer to build out the remainder City Performance Hall and put residential on top. Maybe the church would let someone redevelop their annex if they got a school out of the deal. Not sure how you would motivate the Dallas Bar to let you renovate the Belo annex.

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Re: Arts District: Master Plan

Postby willyk » 11 Nov 2016 04:33

Here is the link to Spire, which has shown no life whatsoever this cycle.

http://www.thespiredallas.com/

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Re: Arts District: Master Plan

Postby willyk » 11 Nov 2016 04:42

Looking at the renderings from the NBBJ plan in the DMN article, notably absent is KWP's proposed flyover bridge on Pearl St.

The bridge is contrary to this proposal, which would make the Arts District flow into KWP and north and south on Pearl, and I hope the omission means the bridge won't happen.

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Re: Arts District: Master Plan

Postby tamtagon » 20 Dec 2017 05:49

Tnexster wrote:Sneak a peek at the new master plan hoping to bring life — and more art — to Dallas' Arts District

http://www.dallasnews.com/arts/arts/201 ... s-district

...Among the master plan's key components: shrinking Pearl from six to four lanes as it heads south from Woodall Rodgers Freeway, renaming it the "Avenue to the Arts," extending its curbs into the intersection and adding public art along the route; remaking the sidewalks along Flora while planting better lights, hardier trees and a water feature; and making room for mixed-use developments that would bring life to street level.

The plan also envisions turning the Routh Street overpass into an actual gateway... expand the boundaries of the Arts District all the way to the Pearl/Arts District light-rail station.

...The Arts District hopes some of that — $18.9 million, for phase one — comes from the 2017 bond package.


So, the bond packaged passed, but did that include money for phase one of a new master plan for the Arts District?

Renaming streets is usually just silly to me, Pearl should be Pearl all the way, not "Avenue to the Arts" for part of the way (Avenue to the Arts?!?! gag me with a spoon).

Still not sure about making room for mixed use developments.

Whatever happened about finishing the City Performance Hall?
http://moody.dallasculture.org/
The Moody Performance Hall is a lyrical and elegant multi-use performing arts venue with a mission to provide an exceptional opportunity for local emerging and mid-sized arts organizations to express the voice of our community through the performing arts.

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Re: Arts District: Master Plan

Postby tamtagon » 20 Dec 2017 05:53

This is old because City Council member Angela Hunt is quoted, but....

http://keranews.org/post/master-plan-da ... s-district

The Master Plan says the new, necessary PARKING needs to be underground. City Councilmember Angela Hunt says they have an ace-in-the-hole

Hunt: The DMA garage was planned so that it can double in size, double in size underground. So that is something that we really need to consider and look at.


I know the DMA got a redesign on the westside parking garage entrance, but did the garage double in size?

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Re: Arts District: Master Plan

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 20 Dec 2017 08:27

How do you double in size an underground garage? Plus why is the first time we have heard this? Oh, that's right Klyde Warren claimed they needed more money to build a floating parking garage over the freeway.

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Re: Arts District: Master Plan

Postby eburress » 20 Dec 2017 10:01

Depending how foundations were laid, what the ground underneath a building is like, etc, it is possible to extend a structure downward, in this case potentially doubling the capacity of an underground parking structure. I hadn't heard anything about this though and it's certainly not trivial to do so.

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Re: Arts District: Master Plan

Postby The_Overdog » 20 Dec 2017 11:15

I know the DMA got a redesign on the westside parking garage entrance, but did the garage double in size?

They may have also walled off portions of it, and could possibly restripe portions of it (to make the parking spots smaller) and decrease turning radii and alternate exits.

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Re: Arts District: Master Plan

Postby exelone31 » 20 Dec 2017 12:25

Wow, "Avenue to the Arts" is an awful name. I'm ok with it if it's an alternate name (ie - the Magnificent Mile aka Michigan Avenue in Chicago), but a complete rename is weak.

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Re: Arts District: Master Plan

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 20 Dec 2017 14:02

That name was abandoned a while ago. Keep in mind the link Tamtagon provided is from before 2010. Before the Wyly and Winspear even opened.

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Re: Arts District: Master Plan

Postby Tucy » 20 Dec 2017 15:52

cowboyeagle05 wrote:That name was abandoned a while ago. Keep in mind the link Tamtagon provided is from before 2010. Before the Wyly and Winspear even opened.


The reference to the "Avenue to the Arts" name was in the November 2016 DMN article originally linked by Tnexster.

FWIW, the June 2017 draft Master Plan still has multiple references to "Avenue to the Arts" although it speaks of "reinterpreting" and "transforming" Pearl Street into "Avenue to the Arts". It does not specifically say it is to be renamed.
http://dallascityhall.com/departments/pnv/Documents/170608_DRAFT_DAD%20Master%20Plan_v7.pdf

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Re: Arts District: Master Plan

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 21 Dec 2017 08:37

Tucy wrote:
cowboyeagle05 wrote:That name was abandoned a while ago. Keep in mind the link Tamtagon provided is from before 2010. Before the Wyly and Winspear even opened.


The reference to the "Avenue to the Arts" name was in the November 2016 DMN article originally linked by Tnexster.

FWIW, the June 2017 draft Master Plan still has multiple references to "Avenue to the Arts" although it speaks of "reinterpreting" and "transforming" Pearl Street into "Avenue to the Arts". It does not specifically say it is to be renamed.
http://dallascityhall.com/departments/pnv/Documents/170608_DRAFT_DAD%20Master%20Plan_v7.pdf


Thank you for clarification Tucy! Avenue of the Arts has always seemed more of a city projection that of course has never taken root in the public or even Arts district officials. No one is saying meet me for lunch on the Avenue of Arts for a number reasons including a bulky name. To me, it reads more as a way to give a name to some design details that can be applied to public spaces along that designated route in city planning design guidelines. I like the name Flora as the central avenue in the Arts District so I hope that never gets wiped out.

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Re: Arts District: Master Plan

Postby tamtagon » 21 Dec 2017 08:56

Is the City Performance Hall on any sort of schedule for expansion within the next ten years? I'm kinda wondering if those blueprints will be modified to something different.

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Re: Arts District: Master Plan

Postby sterling » 01 May 2018 21:08

tamtagon wrote:Is the City Performance Hall on any sort of schedule for expansion within the next ten years? I'm kinda wondering if those blueprints will be modified to something different.


I'd love to see more work on it, and maybe reconfigured for some more even smaller more affordable spaces. Theater Row in NYC has some spaces as small as 20-99 seats, which lend themselves to independents and smaller experimental works. And they've fostered many new shows that have gone on to fill larger theaters and become hits. There's no reason to ignore the smaller local companies in which originality flourishes. In my mind, those starving artists are more the true heartbeat of the creative community. even without red carpet and chandeliers.

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Re: Arts District: Master Plan

Postby tamtagon » 01 May 2018 21:27

sterling wrote:In my mind, those starving artists are more the true heartbeat of the creative community. even without red carpet and chandeliers.


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Re: Arts District: Master Plan

Postby exelone31 » 02 May 2018 08:39

sterling wrote:
tamtagon wrote:Is the City Performance Hall on any sort of schedule for expansion within the next ten years? I'm kinda wondering if those blueprints will be modified to something different.


I'd love to see more work on it, and maybe reconfigured for some more even smaller more affordable spaces. Theater Row in NYC has some spaces as small as 20-99 seats, which lend themselves to independents and smaller experimental works.


I'm not sure if all the retail space is occupied, but would it make sense to try to convert one of the spots into one of these small theater concepts? That may be a completely idiotic idea from a business standpoint (I have no clue), but something that came to mind when thinking of smaller spaces.

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Re: Arts District: Master Plan

Postby sterling » 02 May 2018 10:59

I love storefront theaters and unexpected bldgs turned into performance spaces. Unfortunately, the theaters seem to disappear as the real estate they occupy becomes popular. Higher rents are the ironic death knell for many companies who may have been partially responsible for bringing their locations into the limelight. The nice thing about "dedicated spaces" is that they're less likely to become offices or other businesses. As tough as theaters are to build, they're also difficult to turn into something else.

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Re: Arts District: Master Plan

Postby tamtagon » 02 May 2018 12:11

Maybe we'll have a new Master Plan for the Arts District that reaches into Old East Dallas toward Deep Ellum. The Latino Cultural Center is primed to expand and anchor further Arts District facilities; it's embarrassing that Dallas does not have a Museum of Latin America. The smaller city performance spaces could inch closer to the wilder part of town and have a nice coupling with live music, less formal city gallery spaces would fit well with the wilder part of town... maybe even a notion for the Dallas Contemporary Museum to open Phase Two on Good-Latimer somewhere.

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Re: Arts District: Master Plan

Postby sterling » 02 May 2018 17:54

Love those ideas guys. As in..."Art isn't just for the Arts District anymore."

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Re: Arts District: Master Plan

Postby sterling » 09 May 2018 00:22

"Midtown Arts Theater Center Houston" is an interesting take on building theaters without the usual smoke, mirrors and vast air-conditioned lobbies. An indoor/outdoor arrangement features several different sized spaces under a huge canopy that does double duty as informal gathering space before and after performances. Small foyers entered from underneath the canopy lead directly into the theaters, eliminating the need to heat and air condition a lobby a block long. I wish the City Performance Hall would take a serious look at fleshing out it's future plans similarly. It might get finished sooner. At the very least, the info could have a positive informational effect on planning future performance venues.

https://magazine.texasarchitects.org/20 ... r-houston/


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