Hannibal Lecter wrote:Q: What's the one thing Fort Worth has that Dallas doesn't?
A: A major city 30 miles away.
flyswatter wrote:I'd love to see how Minneapolis vs. St Paul match up and how that compares to Dallas vs. Ft Worth.
flyswatter wrote:I'd love to see how Minneapolis vs. St Paul match up and how that compares to Dallas vs. Ft Worth.
Hannibal Lecter wrote:Q: What's the one thing Fort Worth has that Dallas doesn't?
A: A major city 30 miles away.
tamtagon wrote:Proud and impressive, Fort Worth seems reluctant to accept this role since it's not directly competing against Dallas, ...
62%! That is a HUGE NUMBER commuting out of Ft. Worth daily, primarily to Dallas and Dallas County, for work.
Grant Senter has a terrific job with a startup health care firm in Dallas, and yet he chooses to live in Fort Worth.
Each day, he spends three hours commuting, making the 43-mile trip to and from his home near Eagle Mountain Lake.
“We lived in Dallas for a year, and hated it. I like to say Dallas is like LA without the beach,” said Senter, 27, who has lived in Fort Worth for four years.
Cord1936 wrote:The latest Census Bureau statistics, and the latest Ft. Worth Star Telegram article, confirm in fact that seems to have become reality. To wit:
"But a large number of Fort Worth residents — nearly 192,000 people — still leaves the city for work, Census data shows. Between 2005-14, the percentage of commuters leaving Fort Worth jumped from 53% to 62%."
62%! That is a HUGE NUMBER commuting out of Ft. Worth daily, primarily to Dallas and Dallas County, for work.
I can't trust the opinion of someone who thinks it's reasonable to commute 3 hours each day.
The_Overdog wrote:I can't trust the opinion of someone who thinks it's reasonable to commute 3 hours each day.
In his defense, he's a 'lake guy' (lives on Eagle Mountain Lake) and I believe Eagle Mountain is the closest (or one of the closest) lakes to DFW where you can own waterfront and build a boatdock.
Tucy wrote:Cord1936 wrote:The latest Census Bureau statistics, and the latest Ft. Worth Star Telegram article, confirm in fact that seems to have become reality. To wit:
"But a large number of Fort Worth residents — nearly 192,000 people — still leaves the city for work, Census data shows. Between 2005-14, the percentage of commuters leaving Fort Worth jumped from 53% to 62%."
62%! That is a HUGE NUMBER commuting out of Ft. Worth daily, primarily to Dallas and Dallas County, for work.
That is a huge number, but I don't think there's any reason for your conclusion that those commuters are primarily going to Dallas and Dallas County. Since this is a Fort Worth number, not a Tarrant County number, I suspect they are primarily going elsewhere in Tarrant County. It's instructive that the same article tells us that "nearly 16%" of Tarrant County workers commute to Dallas, so it is unlikely that a significantly higher percentage of Fort Worth workers commute to Dallas.
I45Tex wrote:The ACS may not be the best tool to use to skin this cat:
https://onthemap.ces.census.gov
Someone can select Fort Worth and then map what counties the city's workers are employed in, and see the top 100 counties in 2017. Then they can change the search and map what other Places (Cities and Census Designated Places, etc.) its workers are employed in, subtracting other Tarrant County places from the total Tarrant had in the first search.
Someone really excited could reverse the search for the same year and see where everybody lives outside of Fort Worth who commutes into Fort Worth, if they desired to know how a gain would net out against its commute losses (how much of a bedroom community it is).
tanzoak wrote: I don't like using LEHD for O-Ds. The biggest issue is that LEHD data is from employers, and particularly for firms with multiple locations, the mailing address that the business provides for its location isn't necessarily the same as the workplace addresses for most of their employees.
The sample size for the ACS is very large for big cities/counties like Ft Worth/Tarrant, so the margin of error is relatively small. LEHD actually has another issue on this front in that it isn't even a probability sample--it's a count from firms paying unemployment insurance--so some types of workers are systematically excluded from the data, biasing it when trying to use it to describe overall flows.
DFW metro surpasses Seattle and New York metros in the race for more apartment deliveries
This year, Dallas-Fort Worth metro leads with a total of 22,196 new units expected to be built, which will prove beneficial considering the 131,800 new residents that the metro added between 2017 and 2018 (based on U.S. Census estimates).
jetnd87 wrote:Would love the group's thoughts here. Dallas actually listed as one of the major cities that has seen a net loss of high-tech jobs (along with DC, LA, Chicago).
https://www.wsj.com/articles/five-citie ... lista_pos1
The_Overdog wrote:DFW got rocked by DC and SF, falling from #4 to #6. All those above us featured nice gains, DFW a small decline. Houston and Austin also suffered GDP declines in Texas.
The_Overdog wrote:2017 GDP
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...n_areas_by_GDP
2018 GDP
http://www.city-data.com/forum/city-vs- ... tro-3.html
BIG EDIT: There is some playing with the numbers - there are some CSAs rather than just all MSAs (which is how SF passed DFW, by combining SF & San Jose). Either way, SF + San Jose still had a giant gain unless there is some MSA I am missing. Same for DC+Baltimore. Solid gains + combination to surpass DFW.
I45Tex wrote:Part of what throws readers is that the list of Combined Statistical Areas is not simply the most general national ranking of metro economies, because MSAs like Tampa and Austin are large enough to rank but don't form part of any CSA.
BTW, DFW, Houston and Austin all saw solid increases.
Austin: $146,784,519, up 7.5%
DFW: $512,509,778 up 6.3%
Houston: $478,778,576 up 7%
The_Overdog wrote:BTW, DFW, Houston and Austin all saw solid increases.
Austin: $146,784,519, up 7.5%
DFW: $512,509,778 up 6.3%
Houston: $478,778,576 up 7%
Where are you getting the historical data? Using the one posted by Dpatel for 2018, I see $512, $478, and $146 for DFW, Houston, Austin MSA. The wikipedia chart for 2017 MSAs shows $535, $490, and $148, all higher for 2017 than 2018.
Admin: is there a way to delete the old post so only the correct data (dpatel's chart) shows?
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