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Mansfield + Midlothian

Posted: 05 Mar 2017 08:40
by I45Tex
The first of the Census Bureau's July 2016 metro/micro/county-level (and I think possibly city-level) population estimates should come out within the next three weeks. I fully expect the Metroplex will re-pass Greater Houston as the largest net domestic migration gaining U.S. metro since the 2010 Census.

But all's far from well, I'll admit.
As The_Overdog put it, "...the over-arching guise of regionalism is starting to fracture - (transportation) DART, NCTCOG plans, (water) NTMWD, (travel) DFW & Love vs rail, and schooling (suburban students taking spots in Dallas' top magnets vs suburban schools generally better than urban). Will be interesting to see if any break apart in the next decade."

Jurisdictions splatter out little blasts of annexation; counties like Ellis, Johnson, Tarrant, Denton, Grayson, and Kaufman look like Jackson Pollock got a hold of them.

Ft. Worth already exceeds Dallas in land area; in the next decade its planners anticipate a municipal decision on adding 16 more square miles, out to the edge of Aledo, Texas (That's just under thirty percent of the total acreage that they've analyzed and classified for annexation in their current public records).

http://fortworthtexas.gov/planningandde ... able-1.pdf
http://fortworthtexas.gov/planningandde ... able-2.pdf

It's probably never going to get less fractious where these powers that be are concerned. They'll keep scrapping to finance an edgeless monument to the noble Houstonian's prowess at selling us that oil and gas, I guess. From Northwest Highway to well past U.S. Rte 380, that's the template, and the oldest of it is only just about to start turning 65...

Perhaps equally unrealistic to hope for better in the next 65 years, but that's what Opolis Blueprints are for.

This is not our Mansfield, as you might have guessed, but the old Mansfield that's half a world away.
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I think the Texas one might have a chance not to be forgotten if it arranged a thoughtful marriage with Midlothian ( -- another very good Great Britain name become all too forgettable in Metroplex context).
A city of 90,000 Texans joined together with a sturdy name such as that of historic nearby Alvarado (in 1855 a burg of favorably comparable size to Ft. Worth) would begin to be able to set the terms for the urbanizing southern tier. This thread is now likewise started in order to serve as the nucleus of the best suggestions for that area.

Re: Mansfield + Midlothian

Posted: 05 Mar 2017 12:15
by tamtagon
I think the first item in the urbanization of this southern tier must be an environmental assessment and thorough inventory of fracking activity and fallout; remediation is mandatory before the oil company can skip town and leave it up to the govt to clean up any damage.

Second item, identify a general urban growth boundary to re-establish a sturdy wilderness preserve, the Mountain Creek basin seems to be a very good place to start....

With these two items established as the foundation for the area, let the town do what they do.

All the little white dots on this map are fracking wells.

Re: Mansfield + Midlothian

Posted: 08 Mar 2017 10:03
by Dmkflyer
Let's not forget that Grand Prairie has also been on annexation mode with it's city limits now bordering Midlothian and with it's southern limits currently ending at 287.

Re: Mansfield + Midlothian

Posted: 09 Mar 2017 10:05
by I45Tex

To recognize both of your excellent points, I've taken time to make a little illustration for us all.

I used the latest GIS maps online for the extraterritorial jurisdictions (ETJs) of Burleson, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie, Mansfield, Midlothian, and Waxahachie, and roughly transcribed them here.

Red is GP's ETJ; purple is the FW and Waxahachie ETJ -- I almost ran straight out of patience, and quit doing FW's north of 20.
Dark green are Burleson, Mansfield, and Midlothian ETJs.
Wonder if the Leg would pass a law to allow different boroughs to exist in 1 city.
Or is that law on the books?
Lite green is the future extent of Grand Prairie, most populous city in the state.

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Re: Mansfield + Midlothian

Posted: 09 Mar 2017 11:58
by I45Tex
Factoid I found out: if you add the 7/1/2015 estimated populations of Dallas and its three surrounded towns, they are the same population as A/FW plus their sixteen surrounded towns. Which means when new 7/1/16 ests come out, FW+A > D (granted, D occupies only 70% of their land area)...

Re: Mansfield + Midlothian

Posted: 09 Mar 2017 16:01
by Tnexster
It has long been the goal of FW to have a larger population than Dallas. I will never forget Mayor Moncrief ending a presentation saying he looked forward to the day the world sees this region as the Fort Worth-Dallas region and not the Dallas-Fort Worth region. While FW is totally obsessed with Dallas they have completely missed Plano-Frisco and everything that happens up there. DNT/121 area is about to eclipse downtown FW in terms of total leasable office space and they are still obsessed with what's going on in Dallas.

Re: Mansfield + Midlothian

Posted: 29 May 2017 04:21
by joshua.dodd
Not to mention, Dallas' southern burbs are now blooming. Waxahachie has the largest planned development south of the Metroplex under construction right now. The growth in Waxahachie has become so astronomical that the new Baylor hospital is working on plans to build a new facility next to the one they just built. The facility is going to be a 15 story tower.

Re: Mansfield + Midlothian

Posted: 03 Jun 2017 17:15
by Tnexster
joshua.dodd wrote:Not to mention, Dallas' southern burbs are now blooming. Waxahachie has the largest planned development south of the Metroplex under construction right now. The growth in Waxahachie has become so astronomical that the new Baylor hospital is working on plans to build a new facility next to the one they just built. The facility is going to be a 15 story tower.


This is news, didn't know that facility was doing so well.

Re: Mansfield + Midlothian

Posted: 29 Aug 2017 08:41
by tamtagon
tamtagon wrote:I think the first item in the urbanization of this southern tier must be an environmental assessment and thorough inventory of fracking activity and fallout; remediation is mandatory before the oil company can skip town and leave it up to the govt to clean up any damage.

Second item, identify a general urban growth boundary to re-establish a sturdy wilderness preserve, the Mountain Creek basin seems to be a very good place to start....


Totally whacked out flooding in Houston seems to change priorities, establishing urban growth boundaries in North Texas is probably the more difficult task, and therefore the one needed to be done first.

Re: Mansfield + Midlothian

Posted: 10 Jan 2020 07:34
by I45Tex
Tnexster wrote:
joshua.dodd wrote:Not to mention, Dallas' southern burbs are now blooming. Waxahachie has the largest planned development south of the Metroplex under construction right now. The growth in Waxahachie has become so astronomical that the new Baylor hospital is working on plans to build a new facility next to the one they just built. The facility is going to be a 15 story tower.


This is news, didn't know that facility was doing so well.


Has that tower been progressing?

The existing hospital for those who want to take a Street View is

2400 N I-35E, Waxahachie, TX 75165

Re: Mansfield + Midlothian

Posted: 10 Jan 2020 08:04
by Tnexster
I45Tex wrote:
Tnexster wrote:
joshua.dodd wrote:Not to mention, Dallas' southern burbs are now blooming. Waxahachie has the largest planned development south of the Metroplex under construction right now. The growth in Waxahachie has become so astronomical that the new Baylor hospital is working on plans to build a new facility next to the one they just built. The facility is going to be a 15 story tower.


This is news, didn't know that facility was doing so well.


Has that tower been progressing?

The existing hospital for those who want to take a Street View is

2400 N I-35E, Waxahachie, TX 75165


The last time I drove by which was in October there was no tower under construction.