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Downtown Dallas: Hillwood Urban's ~50 storey tower on former BoA motorcourt

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Hillwood Urban's ~50 storey tower on former BoA motorcourt

Postby dallaz » 11 Jan 2019 14:58

Kelley USA wrote:Well, the loopnet listing was updated just 4 days ago. However, it's not the cylindrical design that was once kicked around. It's the other design which I think has been the preferred design by Hillwood for awhile now. Maybe something is moving forward?? Listing and marketing brochure links below.

https://www.loopnet.com/listing/2012-n- ... x/7027841/

https://images2.loopnet.com/d2/n3SMpI1i ... cument.pdf

Hmmmm...707 ft isn’t bad. It’s not over 1,000 ft like I was hoping for though.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Hillwood Urban's ~50 storey tower on former BoA motorcourt

Postby eburress » 11 Jan 2019 15:31

Kelley USA wrote:Well, the loopnet listing was updated just 4 days ago. However, it's not the cylindrical design that was once kicked around. It's the other design which I think has been the preferred design by Hillwood for awhile now. Maybe something is moving forward?? Listing and marketing brochure links below.

https://www.loopnet.com/listing/2012-n- ... x/7027841/

https://images2.loopnet.com/d2/n3SMpI1i ... cument.pdf


Man, I really hope this is true. I absolutely hate that (lazy, 40+ year-old retread) cylindrical design, and would be delighted to see this other tower get built.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Hillwood Urban's ~50 storey tower on former BoA motorcourt

Postby clcrash19 » 11 Jan 2019 15:35

Man I hope this happens! Ill take either tower.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Hillwood Urban's ~50 storey tower on former BoA motorcourt

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 11 Jan 2019 15:45

eburress wrote:
Kelley USA wrote:Well, the loopnet listing was updated just 4 days ago. However, it's not the cylindrical design that was once kicked around. It's the other design which I think has been the preferred design by Hillwood for awhile now. Maybe something is moving forward?? Listing and marketing brochure links below.

https://www.loopnet.com/listing/2012-n- ... x/7027841/

https://images2.loopnet.com/d2/n3SMpI1i ... cument.pdf


Man, I really hope this is true. I absolutely hate that (lazy, 40+ year-old retread) cylindrical design, and would be delighted to see this other tower get built.



Really? I thought the cyclinder was a better design than the rectangular tower.

I'll say this though, the rectangular tower does seem mesh better with Fountain place.

The cyclinder looking one looked anemic and a little out of place.

I don't like either tbh. Lol

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Hillwood Urban's ~50 storey tower on former BoA motorcourt

Postby dallaz » 11 Jan 2019 15:46

eburress wrote:
Kelley USA wrote:Well, the loopnet listing was updated just 4 days ago. However, it's not the cylindrical design that was once kicked around. It's the other design which I think has been the preferred design by Hillwood for awhile now. Maybe something is moving forward?? Listing and marketing brochure links below.

https://www.loopnet.com/listing/2012-n- ... x/7027841/

https://images2.loopnet.com/d2/n3SMpI1i ... cument.pdf


Man, I really hope this is true. I absolutely hate that (lazy, 40+ year-old retread) cylindrical design, and would be delighted to see this other tower get built.

You make a vailed point.

It would have been nice to see more
variety.

Chicago Spire?
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Re: Downtown Dallas: Hillwood Urban's ~50 storey tower on former BoA motorcourt

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 11 Jan 2019 15:46

clcrash19 wrote:Man I hope this happens! Ill take either tower.

It's Polly just a parking space.. or temporary project that will generate revenue.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Hillwood Urban's ~50 storey tower on former BoA motorcourt

Postby jetnd87 » 11 Jan 2019 15:48

They're dumping dirt on the empty lot, smoothing it with a Bobcat and then steamrolling it. Any idea the point of this? First reaction is parking lot but why would they put the construction site banner fence up? Anyone in the forum work / commute near there and can read what the signage says?

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Hillwood Urban's ~50 storey tower on former BoA motorcourt

Postby muncien » 11 Jan 2019 16:11

Staging area for KWP expansion?
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Re: Downtown Dallas: Hillwood Urban's ~50 storey tower on former BoA motorcourt

Postby R1070 » 11 Jan 2019 16:48

I like the rectangular design better, but was hoping for a taller tower. We need a new tallest and so does the state of Texas.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Hillwood Urban's ~50 storey tower on former BoA motorcourt

Postby Mgreen15 » 11 Jan 2019 20:12

After looking at the marketing brochure, I noticed something quite familiar....
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Re: Downtown Dallas: Hillwood Urban's ~50 storey tower on former BoA motorcourt

Postby Matt777 » 11 Jan 2019 20:40

We saw this design a long time ago, I think before the tall cylinder one. I don't think it was ever a serious design.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Hillwood Urban's ~50 storey tower on former BoA motorcourt

Postby itsjrd1964 » 11 Jan 2019 21:58

jetnd87 wrote:They're dumping dirt on the empty lot, smoothing it with a Bobcat and then steamrolling it. Any idea the point of this? First reaction is parking lot but why would they put the construction site banner fence up?


If the project were underway, and there's (per the Loopnet .pdf) multiple levels of underground parking, I would think the blue construction barrier would be followed by *lots and lots* of earthmoving to dig that much dirt out (after all the utility arrangements were made, of course), instead of just a little bobcat playing in the dirt.

Muncien wrote:Staging area for KWP expansion?


That's a thought, if the park expansion plans were that far along, and Hillwood didn't mind the use of a potential development site for another reason for awhile. There hasn't been any word from the City or TxDOT that we're about to see more foundation work or piers/pilings for a park expansion yet.

Dallaz wrote:Hmmmm...707 ft isn’t bad. It’s not over 1,000 ft like I was hoping for though.


Does Hillwood have enough (or see enough) demand for a building taller than 707 feet? Do they even have enough potential tenants lined up for 707 feet? Surely Perot Jr./friends won't be overly speculative with the building, whatever is built there.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Hillwood Urban's ~50 storey tower on former BoA motorcourt

Postby Tnexster » 17 Jan 2019 20:49

Whatever they do, I love the looks of the skinnier version over the cylinder, think it fits better.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Hillwood Urban's ~50 storey tower on former BoA motorcourt

Postby joshua.dodd » 19 Jan 2019 16:01

I like this version better than the tripple A battery. Nonetheless, the design is nothing exciting. Generic at best. Glassy and blase at worst. But it's still much better than the Foster battery.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Hillwood Urban's ~50 storey tower on former BoA motorcourt

Postby Tnexster » 19 Jan 2019 17:06

joshua.dodd wrote:I like this version better than the tripple A battery. Nonetheless, the design is nothing exciting. Generic at best. Glassy and blase at worst. But it's still much better than the Foster battery.


Maybe they are taking their cue from the Fountain Place towers and prefer something that appears to compliment the buildings next door and not take away from it. A trio of sculpted glass towers would be more appealing than two next to a giant cylindrical battery shaped tower.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Hillwood Urban's ~50 storey tower on former BoA motorcourt

Postby tamtagon » 19 Jan 2019 19:53

why not something ultra modern, or at least as different from the surroundings as Fountain Place back in the day.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Hillwood Urban's ~50 storey tower on former BoA motorcourt

Postby NdoorTX » 20 Jan 2019 05:51

Those would blow my mind- especially 1 & 3.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Hillwood Urban's ~50 storey tower on former BoA motorcourt

Postby Matt777 » 20 Jan 2019 13:43

The Dallas skyline has enough "fat," rectangular or square towers. A skinny tower would help accentuate the height of the skyline, because the thick office buildings make the buildings look shorter than they are. I like the cylinder based designs.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Hillwood Urban's ~50 storey tower on former BoA motorcourt

Postby Tnexster » 20 Jan 2019 16:54

I especially like number the first picture but it's a bold design and not one I would expect to rise in Dallas.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Hillwood Urban's ~50 storey tower on former BoA motorcourt

Postby eburress » 20 Jan 2019 18:00

Yep, any of those would be a dramatic improvement over either of the proposed retreads.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Hillwood Urban's ~50 storey tower on former BoA motorcourt

Postby maconahey » 07 Jun 2019 19:56

Nothing new here
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