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Re: Lower Greenville Development

Postby dallasbeatsaustin » 16 Jan 2020 18:03

lakewoodhobo wrote:
http://dallas.culturemap.com/news/resta ... Hp6-17msp0

UPDATE 1-16-2020: According to a statement from Taco Cabana, the outcome of the Tango Frogs is still TBD. "At Taco Cabana we understand the importance of the Tango Frogs to the community," the statement says. "We are currently exploring options to ensure that they find a good home."


Well, my idea of a kitschy "Frogtown Plaza" in the West End won't die (in my head anyway). This is where the Tango Frogs belong.

Frogtown Plaza.jpg


Love this idea. I was teaching students about Frog Town the other day. I assume most people in Dallas would not get the reference though.

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Re: Lower Greenville Development

Postby exelone31 » 17 Jan 2020 09:24

DPatel304 wrote:Char Bar on Lower Greenville gets new life: Owners of Whiskey Cake and Velvet Taco plan new restaurant
https://outline.com/MzSwfn


For those who don't know, the owners of these restaurants also own Twin Peaks. That is relevant because I found this quote in the article about the Char Bar space (emphasis mine).

The previous restaurant on Greenville Avenue, owned by four Greek brothers, was famous for its low-priced food and can’t-miss-it exterior. Gibbons says the signature “three peaks” shape of the roof will remain but that the restaurant will be gutted.


I think we can all agree what this means: Dallas is going to be the first city in the US to get its own 'Total Recall' (1990) themed restaurant.

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Re: Lower Greenville Development

Postby DPatel304 » 17 Jan 2020 09:37

:lol: :lol:

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Re: Lower Greenville Development

Postby Hannibal Lecter » 17 Jan 2020 10:30

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Re: Lower Greenville Development

Postby homeworld1031tx » 23 Jan 2020 23:25

Went to Desert Racer again just now and it was packed. Gotta feel bad for the Haymaker guys, they spent all that money renovating the place and then weren't able to find success; these new guys move in with a quick remodel after all the hard work is done and are packed. The restaurant business is a fickle one indeed.

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Re: Lower Greenville Development

Postby eburress » 24 Jan 2020 11:18

homeworld1031tx wrote:Went to Desert Racer again just now and it was packed. Gotta feel bad for the Haymaker guys, they spent all that money renovating the place and then weren't able to find success; these new guys move in with a quick remodel after all the hard work is done and are packed. The restaurant business is a fickle one indeed.


Desert Racer has been packed each time I've been. I wonder how Flatbread Co. is doing. I've not yet been but when walking by they haven't seemed quite as busy.

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Re: Lower Greenville Development

Postby Cbdallas » 24 Jan 2020 11:45

I wish they were open daytime on the weekends.

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Re: Lower Greenville Development

Postby DPatel304 » 24 Jan 2020 13:40

homeworld1031tx wrote:Went to Desert Racer again just now and it was packed. Gotta feel bad for the Haymaker guys, they spent all that money renovating the place and then weren't able to find success; these new guys move in with a quick remodel after all the hard work is done and are packed. The restaurant business is a fickle one indeed.


The real test is if Desert racer can sustain the crowds long term (I believe that they will).

I think it was just bad timing for Haymaker. Lower Greenville wasn't as developed back then and didn't stretch as far south as it does now.

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Re: Lower Greenville Development

Postby lakewoodhobo » 18 Feb 2020 10:44

First look: Eight-story apartment project planned for Dallas’ Lower Greenville neighborhood
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... ghborhood/

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RangeWater Real Estate last month purchased a 1.25-acre vacant site in the 5700 block of Richmond Avenue just off Greenville.

The property is across the street from the Sam’s Club store and was formerly the site of Pietro’s restaurant.

RangeWater plans to build an 8-story, 236-unit apartment block on the tract.

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Re: Lower Greenville Development

Postby eburress » 18 Feb 2020 10:59

Wow, I'm stunned! A building of such scale and caliber, built right off Greenville. I'd be shocked if the neighbors don't go apeshit and do everything they can to stop this but I really really hope this happens.

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Re: Lower Greenville Development

Postby Matt777 » 18 Feb 2020 12:14

Good stuff. The neighbors are sure to go crazy but if they want the constant turnover of shops and restaurants in that area to stop, there needs to be a little density added. A medium amount of well designed multi family residential and some office will do this area a world of good.

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Re: Lower Greenville Development

Postby DPatel304 » 18 Feb 2020 13:21

I hope this happens! This area definitely needs some more density to sustain all the restaurants popping up in the area.

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Re: Lower Greenville Development

Postby LongonBigD » 18 Feb 2020 14:42

Propose 8 stories. Listen to nimbys whine. “Compromise” at 5 stories. What does that spell? D-o-n-u-t

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Re: Lower Greenville Development

Postby eburress » 18 Feb 2020 15:35

Hahaha probably true, but I'd be almost as delighted by a 5 story donut!

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Re: Lower Greenville Development

Postby DPatel304 » 18 Feb 2020 15:41

eburress wrote:Hahaha probably true, but I'd be almost as delighted by a 5 story donut!


Agreed. I realize Lower Greenville is smack dab in the middle of a lot of single family homes, so I don't expect any towers over here, but I do think the area is reaching a point where more density would be good (even if it ends up only being 5 stories).

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Re: Lower Greenville Development

Postby Cbdallas » 18 Feb 2020 15:51

Would be nice to see this head towards the sky in east Dallas and more like it in that area.

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Re: Lower Greenville Development

Postby eburress » 18 Feb 2020 17:26

There's a lot of potential for denser development in the area; I just didn't expect it to start East of Greenville. All those parking lots around the Truckyard, all the suburban-style retail along Greenville and Ross, the Sprouts site, up and down Henderson, etc...

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Re: Lower Greenville Development

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 18 Feb 2020 22:12

Unfortunately, this city only pulls off this type of development in parts of the city where people of lesser means reside. I fully expect a battle with LGHA or whatever it's called. The usual suspects will be the complaints ...traffic, attracts vandals,too big etc.

They'll fight this to the bitter end even though it's probably needed.

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Re: Lower Greenville Development

Postby mjsampey » 18 Feb 2020 22:59

I wanted to post about this development last summer because I work at a firm doing part of the design but it's been very hush hush. I can confirm this is happening but as others have said, the owners have had to fight the locals to get this going.

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Re: Lower Greenville Development

Postby eburress » 19 Feb 2020 07:13

mjsampey wrote:I wanted to post about this development last summer because I work at a firm doing part of the design but it's been very hush hush. I can confirm this is happening but as others have said, the owners have had to fight the locals to get this going.


Thanks for the inside info, mjsampey! Based on the criticisms I've seen so far, affordable housing is one of the gripes and the other is the knee-jerk parking/traffic/congestion concern.


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