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Victory Park: Cinépolis /The 23 (~273 FT / 23 ST)


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Re: Victory Park: Cinépolis /The 23 (23 ST)

Postby Tnexster » 10 Nov 2016 10:36

Nice, this one is finally making an impact on the skyline. That whole VP area is starting to look so dense.

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Re: Victory Park: Cinépolis /The 23 (23 ST)

Postby willyk » 11 Nov 2016 04:03

9 floors poured for the residential building. Expect to see the second floor taking shape on the theatre/parking building soon.

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Re: Victory Park: Cinépolis /The 23 (23 ST)

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Re: Victory Park: Cinépolis /The 23 (23 ST)

Postby lakewoodhobo » 08 Dec 2016 10:08

Starting to show the two-tone masonry.

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Re: Victory Park: Cinépolis /The 23 (23 ST)

Postby willyk » 08 Dec 2016 11:01

Nice photo.

This is starting to look like a very well conceived project-- the location, orientation, massing and mix of uses all seem to fit well with the park and the surrounding retail space. I am starting to feel optimistic that the movie theater in particular is going to create the foot traffic and energy that will take VP from a collection of buildings to a neighborhood.

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Re: Victory Park: Cinépolis /The 23 (23 ST)

Postby DPatel304 » 08 Dec 2016 11:33

willyk wrote:Nice photo.

This is starting to look like a very well conceived project-- the location, orientation, massing and mix of uses all seem to fit well with the park and the surrounding retail space. I am starting to feel optimistic that the movie theater in particular is going to create the foot traffic and energy that will take VP from a collection of buildings to a neighborhood.


Yes, the theater, and the grocery store will really complete the neighborhood. I think, right now, the biggest problem is all the construction sites. Eventually, they will lead to a very dense neighborhood, but, for now, so many construction sites are extremely unpleasant.

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Re: Victory Park: Cinépolis /The 23 (23 ST)

Postby tamtagon » 08 Dec 2016 12:13

Did this one get the (??$6 million??) incentive requested?


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Re: Victory Park: Cinépolis /The 23 (23 ST)

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 24 Dec 2016 21:31

Astonishing that all this is in VP.

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Postby kingpin » 29 Dec 2016 17:33

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Re: Victory Park: Cinépolis /The 23 (23 ST)

Postby maconahey » 30 Dec 2016 14:22

From Victory Block G's Facebook page today

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Re: Victory Park: Cinépolis /The 23 (23 ST)

Postby willyk » 30 Dec 2016 21:32

15 poured. 7 to go.

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Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 30 Dec 2016 23:00

As I walk through VP I can't help but feel that the AAC is holding the Neighborhood back now. The large garages and stadium surface parking lots are disconnecting the area. :/

I wish that parking garage , masked with the new store fronts in front of the W, was just demolished. It's so out of place.

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Re: Victory Park: Cinépolis /The 23 (23 ST)

Postby Austin55 » 31 Dec 2016 11:23

There is quite a large open area at the north east corner of the tower portion, the renderings show this area covered in glass. Is this just an atrium?

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Re: Victory Park: Cinépolis /The 23 (23 ST)

Postby R1070 » 31 Dec 2016 19:13

willyk wrote:15 poured. 7 to go.


I believe there's 8 more to go. Isn't it to be 23 floors?

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Postby jsoto3 » 16 Jan 2017 23:06

Austin55 wrote:There is quite a large open area at the north east corner of the tower portion, the renderings show this area covered in glass. Is this just an atrium?

That is the cinema entry escalator atrium.

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Re: Victory Park: Cinépolis /The 23 (23 ST)

Postby jsoto3 » 16 Jan 2017 23:10

R1070 wrote:
willyk wrote:15 poured. 7 to go.


I believe there's 8 more to go. Isn't it to be 23 floors?

Correct. Although, as of today there are 6 floors to go. Level 17 was poured last week.

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Postby lakewoodhobo » 22 Jan 2017 22:16

This building really fills a gap in the Victory Park skyline, especially if you're traveling north on Lamar. I suppose The Case is doing the same for Deep Ellum if you're traveling in that direction, but Cinepolis is already surrounded by towers whereas Case is the only one in that area.

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Postby joshua.dodd » 22 Jan 2017 22:37

And just to think, the parking lot across the street is about to become a new tower as well, which will really fill in the gap.

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Postby ContriveDallasite » 24 Jan 2017 02:44

joshua.dodd wrote:And just to think, the parking lot across the street is about to become a new tower as well, which will really fill in the gap.


Have there been any new announcements on that tower? All I can recall is that Hines or Hillwood Urban is sitting on it waiting on a tennant before they break down. It's a beautiful tower and I hope it gets built. That would absolutely help the Victory Park build out.

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Postby joshua.dodd » 24 Jan 2017 11:25

I haven't heard any news about it yet.

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Postby maconahey » 14 Feb 2017 19:52

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Postby kingpin » 04 Mar 2017 13:52

3/4/17

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Re: Victory Park: Cinépolis /The 23 (~273 FT / 23 ST)

Postby jsoto3 » 05 Mar 2017 12:32

Here are some views from the tower taken a few weeks ago:
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360 panorama from the northeast corner of the tower:
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Re: Victory Park: Cinépolis /The 23 (~273 FT / 23 ST)

Postby Tnexster » 05 Mar 2017 13:25

I have always liked that little park, especially when the trees fill in.

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 06 Mar 2017 09:50

Tnexster wrote:I have always liked that little park, especially when the trees fill in.


I've disliked it since it was built. Not functional at all and designed like a corporate office park park. Disconnected and useless beyond a place for dogs to defecate. The redesign they showed off previously will do wonders for this underutilized public/private space.

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Postby kingpin » 09 Mar 2017 17:31

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Postby dch526 » 16 Mar 2017 08:31

From 03/14/17

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Re: Victory Park: Cinépolis /The 23 (~273 FT / 23 ST)

Postby R1070 » 16 Mar 2017 23:39

Are they working on the 23rd floor now?

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Postby willyk » 17 Mar 2017 04:10

R1070 wrote:Are they working on the 23rd floor now?


Yes, they are near the top of the residential tower. But I believe the movie house sits on top of the garage and that still has a ways to go before it tops out.

From the way it is shaping up, it will vie with the W as the best piece of architecture in VP.

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Re: Victory Park: Cinépolis /The 23 (~273 FT / 23 ST)

Postby joshua.dodd » 17 Mar 2017 16:19

Are there any plans for the empty lot at Lamar and Victory Ave?

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Re: Victory Park: Cinépolis /The 23 (~273 FT / 23 ST)

Postby homeworld1031tx » 17 Mar 2017 18:29

A new crane went up today right next door to this. Anyone have any idea what it's for? Does it have something to do with the aa center garage improvements?

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Re: Victory Park: Cinépolis /The 23 (~273 FT / 23 ST)

Postby Hwulivn » 17 Mar 2017 19:24

I so agree. Useless design as is too often the case in Dallas. It's almost like the developers/landscape architects design and build pictures or trophies that are to be admired from a distance and not actually practical buildings or spaces that add value to the Urban fabric.

cowboyeagle05 wrote:
Tnexster wrote:I have always liked that little park, especially when the trees fill in.


I've disliked it since it was built. Not functional at all and designed like a corporate office park park. Disconnected and useless beyond a place for dogs to defecate. The redesign they showed off previously will do wonders for this underutilized public/private space.

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Re: Victory Park: Cinépolis /The 23 (~273 FT / 23 ST)

Postby WestTexas86 » 04 Apr 2017 12:31

What more do you need from a park in a down town?

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Postby maconahey » 18 Apr 2017 17:31

From this afternoon
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Postby Tnexster » 18 Apr 2017 19:38

Nice, love the way VP is filling up.

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Re: Victory Park: Cinépolis /The 23 (~273 FT / 23 ST)

Postby Matt777 » 18 Apr 2017 22:04

Tnexster wrote:Nice, love the way VP is filling up.


I live on the North End of VP at The Alexan, and had to go to the new 7-Eleven at the bottom of the Cirque tonight. Even at 9pm, there was a good amount of pedestrian activity and it didn't even seem like anything was going on at the AAC. I think with the addition of the Camden residents, this neighborhood is coming to life. Should kick up even more once Skyhouse, Ascent, The 23, and Katy Station open.

I know it's not everyone's favorite tenant, but this neighborhood really needs a Starbucks. Somewhere near the middle, by the AAC, so it can serve both office tenants and residents. It would have actually been great in the space where 7-Eleven is in Cirque. I think there's still some retail space for lease next to 7-Eleven. Urban Starbucks tend to drive foot traffic pretty well.

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Re: Victory Park: Cinépolis /The 23 (~273 FT / 23 ST)

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 18 Apr 2017 23:32

There's Cafe Victoria... Or is it bad?

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Postby dch526 » 19 Apr 2017 09:31

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:There's Cafe Victoria... Or is it bad?


Not bad, not great but solid. They have limited seating so it's more of a grab and go.

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Re: Victory Park: Cinépolis /The 23 (~273 FT / 23 ST)

Postby exelone31 » 19 Apr 2017 11:26

Cafe Victoria is also only open from 7am - 7pm. I don't think Starbucks' are typically open much later, but even a few hours could bring in a decent evening crowd.


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Postby jsoto3 » 23 Apr 2017 11:07

Some views from the top:

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Re: Victory Park: Cinépolis /The 23 (~273 FT / 23 ST)

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 23 Apr 2017 13:27

Northend apartments look so out of place

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Re: Victory Park: Cinépolis /The 23 (~273 FT / 23 ST)

Postby WestTexas86 » 25 Apr 2017 11:47

I do not understand why they used such a suburban design for a down town apartment complex?

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Postby eburress » 25 Apr 2017 14:38

WestTexas86 wrote:I do not understand why they used such a suburban design for a down town apartment complex?


You have to think back to when those apartments were built, what was around them, what was happening at the time, etc. The dynamics were completely different and really, that area was barely even "downtown."

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Re: Victory Park: Cinépolis /The 23 (~273 FT / 23 ST)

Postby Tnexster » 25 Apr 2017 15:02

WestTexas86 wrote:I do not understand why they used such a suburban design for a down town apartment complex?


Different times, I remember when they built it, seems like it was actually considered "dense" at the time and considering what was around it, it probably was. You have to remember that VP was still the old brown field site at that time.


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