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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby DPatel304 » 24 Dec 2019 17:02

A vintage building in Old East Dallas that used to be a Tex-Mex place is about to become a neighborhood bar.

Called The Peak Inn, it's from two local bar veterans: Joel Morales, co-owner of Adair's; and Marc Hooper, formerly of Sundown and Elbow Room, and currently a partner in BoLeo's Taco Shack and a coming-soon backyard bar called Parry Ave.

Located at 132 N Peak St., this is the space that used to be Peak & Elm, the restaurant-tamale shop owned by the Moreno family, who relocated to Bryan Street in March.

http://dallas.culturemap.com/news/resta ... st-dallas/

The "Peak Inn" opened up not too long ago on that particular intersection.

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby tamtagon » 24 Dec 2019 18:11

HarryMoto wrote:I remember a few years back there was some talk of the Peak & Elm area, northeast of Deep Ellum ("East Ellum"), as a new frontier for development. Besides It'll Do, is there much happening there?


During the 90s heydays in Deep Ellum, East Dallas had a small but muy potente Latino bar and club scene along a stretch of Fitzhugh-Bennett between Central and Ross. I would imagine some of the club spaces are still around, just itching for rebirth.

East Dallas is going to need another drinking destination anyway, more for locals, with a much much higher level of cool, entirely disconnected from the suburban excursionists in Deep Ellum and Uptown.... Oak Cliff is just too far.

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby eburress » 24 Dec 2019 21:37

I'm not sure they'll fill the void you're speaking of, but Desert Racer finally opened this week and seems to be doing well...

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 26 Dec 2019 09:37

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cowboyeagle05 wrote:The same guy who bought the core of Deep Ellum redeveloped it and sold it is buying land in The Cedars right now. 42 Real Estate. They have plans to do some of the same things there as well.


That's awesome, I wasn't aware of this. Have any details been released regarding this, I couldn't really find anything?



https://42realestate.com/urban

All I can offer you in links is their website which shows nothing specific in terms of projects but I know they are buying land there because of people who work there. Also, they are in the process of hiring more people to help manage all their expanding Cedars portfolio.

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby lakewoodhobo » 26 Dec 2019 14:03

A Chicago developer has bought the former ReelFX building and the adjacent parking lot with plans for a mixed-use development.


https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... perty-buy/

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby DPatel304 » 26 Dec 2019 14:47

Assuming they keep this building intact, I'd say this is fantastic news!

I never would have imagined that we'd see so much demand for office space in the Deep Ellum area. I'm pleasantly surprised by this announcement and I certainly expect more going forward.

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby tamtagon » 26 Dec 2019 14:55

Where did reelfx end up?

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby lakewoodhobo » 26 Dec 2019 15:02

tamtagon wrote:Where did reelfx end up?


They downsized and moved to 717 Harwood (old KPMG tower).

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby emmasensei » 26 Dec 2019 15:17

That's a pretty big chunk of land. Really exciting.

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 28 Dec 2019 11:29

I'll say it again when the city wakes up and realizes that all that land they operate in Deep Ellum between Canton and I-30 is a gold mine for a developer looking to make a splash without historical buildings getting in the way of their plans. It's separated enough and could really help improve South Dallas if the city made the right deal.

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby Tnexster » 29 Dec 2019 14:07

Assuming they will do something mixed use here, can't wait to see what they come up with.

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby Tnexster » 30 Dec 2019 10:04

Finally looked this up on a map, the property is larger than I thought and is also closer to Uber than I thought. Wonder how tall they could go here?

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby DPatel304 » 30 Dec 2019 10:31

cowboyeagle05 wrote:I'll say it again when the city wakes up and realizes that all that land they operate in Deep Ellum between Canton and I-30 is a gold mine for a developer looking to make a splash without historical buildings getting in the way of their plans. It's separated enough and could really help improve South Dallas if the city made the right deal.


Didn't they offer this land up when Amazon was hunting for their HQ2? It seems like they are aware, they are likely just waiting for the right deal.

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby Hannibal Lecter » 30 Dec 2019 10:55

The city is notoriously glacial when it comes to selling property it's not using. Imagine how long it would take them to sell something they do use?

https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/comm ... at-a-loss/
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2019/05 ... ghborhood/
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/comment ... toll-road/

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby jsoto3 » 07 Jan 2020 22:28

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7Bi2H_lmB6 ... win7yijt6x
Sterling Bay Deep Ellum rendering.JPG
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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby Hannibal Lecter » 07 Jan 2020 23:01

They just get uglier and uglier....

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 08 Jan 2020 00:08

Is this the reelfx space? Can't decide if this is uglier than the Hines Deep ellum project or not :/

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby joshua.dodd » 08 Jan 2020 00:49

I really do believe that these developers need to focus less on fancy glass facades and more on industrial, brick and ornamentation architecture instead.

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby tamtagon » 08 Jan 2020 06:01

I like it!

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby Tnexster » 08 Jan 2020 09:13

So...that looks like maybe above ground parking and office space?

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby eburress » 08 Jan 2020 09:18

I like it too! Very cool!

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 08 Jan 2020 09:26

Deep Ellum is defffffffffffffffff over now cause all the sideline players are coming in without a care for anything that makes Deep Ellum tick.

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby R1070 » 08 Jan 2020 10:24

I like the mix of old and new.

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby DPatel304 » 08 Jan 2020 10:32

Looks great, but are they planning to raze the existing building that is already there?

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby emmasensei » 08 Jan 2020 10:33

Here's what I like about it: The residents and workers it will attract, who will get out into the street, make Deep Ellum safer and livelier, and who will spend money at Deep Ellum's businesses. That's what I like.

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby emmasensei » 08 Jan 2020 10:39

Here's another anecdote about Deep Ellum from last weekend. My spouse and I like to bike from our home in East Dallas all the way down to Deep Ellum via the trail network, through a part of Old East Dallas that is particularly blighted and depressed.

For the first time we saw several of the same oversized, ultra-modern and colonial-esque homes being constructed that you see in other, more gentrified areas of East Dallas. Not many, but a handful. Looking at a map, they were most clustered around S Munger Blvd and the Old East Dallas Work Yard Park. The gentrification of low-density residential most immediately adjacent to Deep Ellum has definitely begun.
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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby Tnexster » 08 Jan 2020 10:54

Definitely a growing crowd of office workers but the office worker of today is probably not a bunch of suits and I would not expect as much of that in DE as there might be in downtown proper. I wouldn't mind having an office closer to DE, the dining options are great.

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby Erick_g02 » 08 Jan 2020 13:38

I like this rendering. It could use more brick though. I like the mix of old and new in Deep Ellum, similar to what we would find in London and NYC. The neighborhood is evolving and this is not a bad thing. The old has attracted the new and the neighborhood will be better for it. It can't live in the old 90's glory days forever. Just don't Uptown my Deep Ellum. Where do we draw the line?

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 08 Jan 2020 13:48

What's good about the office worker is that it gives the neighborhood daytime customers. Bar/night clubs cater to the rowdier late nighttime crowd. Bar/Resturants can actually build a decent day business and stick around vs only catering to a crazy late night time crowd. Plus places that are more daytime, in general, can open and stick around vs places that have to make most of their money off the 10 o'clock plus crowd. It helps change the density of entertainment based bars/restaurants vs other needed neighborhood services places. Deep Ellum deserves to be a neighborhood that has more than a drunken mess that shows up there now for the late hours.

Yes, it has been a longtime home and neighborhood for a select group but that group wasn't enough to sustain a serious day time crowd. They have long needed stuff that appeals to residents and not just dependent on attracting people from the suburbs who come down get drunk make a mess and leave without a care in the world.

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby Tnexster » 08 Jan 2020 14:04

Could be the early rendering and not the final product. I don't mind it so much, this keeps up DE will be surrounded by towers.

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby jetnd87 » 08 Jan 2020 14:49

I think this is great for the neighborhood for all the reasons everyone said.

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby lakewoodhobo » 08 Jan 2020 17:08

New residential tower would join Deep Ellum historic building
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... -building/

Westdale – which is now one of the biggest owners and developers in Deep Ellum – is now working with apartment builder StreetLights Residential to construct a mid-rise apartment building and a residential tower on the block adjacent to the Adam Hats Building.

StreetLights Residential officials showed plans for a five-story building that would be constructed along Canton Street next door to the landmark Adam Hats Building.

Behind the two Canton Street buildings along Taylor Street, the developer would build a high-rise of about 20 floors.

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby eburress » 08 Jan 2020 17:22

Dang, Deep Ellum's on fire! Regarding the old "which 'hood is the next Uptown" debate, it seems Deep Ellum is taking a commanding lead.

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby DPatel304 » 08 Jan 2020 17:37

I was really hoping that Downtown would be the 'next Uptown' in terms of development, but Deep Ellum certainly seems to be on fire these days. I guess it helps that it's a smaller district and there is less available land, so whatever land is left is likely to get snatched up and re-developed pretty quickly.

It should be an interesting next few years for Deep Ellum.

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby lakewoodhobo » 08 Jan 2020 17:57

I’m guessing that the new 5-story building replaces the surface parking lot for Adams Hat residents, so where are they supposed to park while this is u/c?

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby Tnexster » 08 Jan 2020 19:40

Amazing, seems like one after another these days but it is fun to see the skyline grow to the east side.

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby jetnd87 » 08 Jan 2020 20:14

I also like that the majority of these projects in Deep Ellum (and our other upstart neighborhoods in fact) are mixed use. Past neighborhood busts and hangovers were driven / exacerbated by single-use mentality (entertainment / nightlife for Deep Ellum, Lower Greenville, West End or office for Downtown). Not to mention the vitality and retail sustainability that all-day foot traffic drives (obviously a protection against said busts).

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby lakewoodhobo » 09 Jan 2020 10:35

I'm also surprised to see this much activity in Deep Ellum, especially compared to the slow pace of construction in the Design District which a lot of us were betting would be just as hot.

These deals take years to complete, so I imagine we haven't even started to see the full effect of Uber's decision on Deep Ellum.

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby MC_ScattCat » 09 Jan 2020 11:01

I think anything around downtown is hot right now. I do hope this won't stop potential growth around Union Station area.

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby Tnexster » 09 Jan 2020 11:30

lakewoodhobo wrote:I'm also surprised to see this much activity in Deep Ellum, especially compared to the slow pace of construction in the Design District which a lot of us were betting would be just as hot.

These deals take years to complete, so I imagine we haven't even started to see the full effect of Uber's decision on Deep Ellum.


I've had that same thought, kinda wondering what that full effect will look like? Seems like a fairly rapid increase in activity.

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 09 Jan 2020 11:59

Well Westdale Properties who made the Uber deal has certainly been working behind the scenes on a few projects for the area. I am sure they showed Uber that other residential would be built nearby as part of the larger plan.

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby Cbdallas » 09 Jan 2020 15:05

Deep Ellum is starting to feel similar to the early days of Chicago West loop area when Google moved in. I think this area will follow what happened there which is a great thing.

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby Tnexster » 09 Jan 2020 20:18

Cbdallas wrote:Deep Ellum is starting to feel similar to the early days of Chicago West loop area when Google moved in. I think this area will follow what happened there which is a great thing.


Chicago developer who built for Google sees Deep Ellum as the next big deal
Sterling Bay’s Dallas project is part of a national expansion

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... -big-deal/

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby Tnexster » 10 Jan 2020 09:00

First look: New office block on the way in Dallas’ Deep Ellum district
Sterling Bay’s planned office and retail building is next to DART’s rail station

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... -district/

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby DPatel304 » 10 Jan 2020 11:44

I'm loving all the publicity Deep Ellum is getting these days, it should be a wild couple of years for the area.

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 10 Jan 2020 13:54

Sterling Bay sounds like a Barbados Rum distillery. I can't un-think this.

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby DPatel304 » 12 Jan 2020 22:47

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I saw this in the window of Anvil Pub on Saturday. No idea how long it's been there or what it means, but I figured I'd share it regardless.

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby Hannibal Lecter » 13 Jan 2020 00:09

^ Almost definitely their late night SUP renewal.

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby Tnexster » 13 Jan 2020 07:59

If you zoom in on that QR code it should tell you exactly what it is.

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Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Postby Tnexster » 13 Jan 2020 09:25

Development team talks design features of 475K-SF tower in Deep Ellum

https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news ... ellum.html

A representative for the Chicago-based company told the Dallas Business Journal Friday that the 2.5-acre site the company purchased at 301 N Crowdus would eventually become a 13-story, 474,200-square-foot mixed-use tower.

The site is currently home to a parking lot and a vacant 70,000-square-foot office building.

Designed by HKS Inc., the tower is expected to feature more than 10,000 square feet of ground-floor retail, four floors of above-grade parking and eight stories of office space totaling more than 425,000 square feet. The building's two main office towers would be separated by an amenity deck on the seventh floor. The sixth floor will feature a "super floor", which will span the entire length of the building.


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