Hannibal Lecter wrote:
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:The purpose of the remaking of the street was to improve the sidewalks , add parking and slow down motorists. Just how Elm was meant to be when originally constructed. Total success...
The width of the actual "thru" sidewalks was not changed, they just added abutments along parts of it. Total on-street parking was decreased. Slowing down traffic goes against the basic purpose of a street -- to efficiently transport people and goods. And when Elm Street was "originally constructed" there were no sidewalks on it or motorists (or cars), so your assertion is farcical on it's face (even if it were in any way relevant, which it isn't).
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:And come on No resident passes through Elm or commerce with the thought of getting some where quick even during the week at 3 pm.
Why shouldn't we? Why should we have to suffer to meet the fantasies of some neo-urbanista types that don't live or work here? The so-called urban designers say they want to make neighborhoods more livable. Guess what -- turning us into a Disneyland for outsiders isn't improving life for us.
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:There's stop signs all down Elm and Commerce! Lol
OK, I think I see the problem here. Either you are on some serious drugs or you've never actually been to Deep Ellum. There's not one stop sign on Elm or Commerce between I-35 and Exposition.
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:Why would you go through there thinking it would be quicker any way?!
Well, when you live and work here you don't have much choice. Unlike know-it-all outsiders who want to tell us what's good for us, but don't have to live with the consequences.
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:During the work week if I drive to work I take Pacific to Gaston and go around the shops or just take Canton.
As I was saying....
OK I miss spoke there aren't stop signs there are lights.
Your entire argument is that there aren't stops.. between Malcolm x and 365. uh.... There are lights there. Even worse than stop signs in terms of wait time..theres also a light on Hall...
And OK I am "drugs" if you say so .. oh and I live off Carrol btw. But Sure .. Im an "outsider" I guess. My point was that the area that you mention is a heavy retail area with pedestrian traffic.
And my point is still is valid, Given that there are lights between 365 and Malcolm x (and hall) ,exactly where mention, why would you expect that area to be a quick pass through?
That's the worse way to get through the area...It's OK bro you must be new to the area.
If your entire premise is that the sidewalks are same and given The capacity is still 2 lane Going east /west. Then what's your point Exactly..? Traffic is worse because it's the capacity same?
Have you noticed that there way more new businesess to the area? Hmmmm...Maybe that's what causing your grief.
The reality is coming out of downtown during the work week there has always been congestion. I guess I wouldn't know about all the horric traffic between Malcolm x and 365 where all the shops are ...Please Excuse me, ive been living in same area for almost a decade now and I don't view areas with lights and retail as quick pass through points...So I tend to avoid them..
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