Tnexster wrote:I like a good mystery
Tnexster wrote:^That's 1900 Main which is down by Main Street Gardens.
Matt777 wrote:Tnexster wrote:I like a good mystery
It's just so their lease sheet can have a certain ratio of parking spaces/square footage that higher than competing buildings. It's not based on actual demand. GROSS.
Tucy wrote:Matt777 wrote:Tnexster wrote:I like a good mystery
It's just so their lease sheet can have a certain ratio of parking spaces/square footage that higher than competing buildings. It's not based on actual demand. GROSS.
Source?
cowboyeagle05 wrote:If it's not being splashed across the local media as the next great project in Downtown by Downtown Dallas Inc so I am very suspicious this is bad news. They could effectively build a short garage here with less height than the previously proposed one and leave us with another dead weight anchor right in the middle of what could be one of the most premium spots that could change the success of this end of Downtown. I am certainly waiting for the bad news to drop here. We need a major draw on this spot to drive people from the Statler all the way down to this end of the Main Street district and on towards the convention center. Even another nice hotel would be welcomed here.
joshua.dodd wrote:cowboyeagle05 wrote:If it's not being splashed across the local media as the next great project in Downtown by Downtown Dallas Inc so I am very suspicious this is bad news. They could effectively build a short garage here with less height than the previously proposed one and leave us with another dead weight anchor right in the middle of what could be one of the most premium spots that could change the success of this end of Downtown. I am certainly waiting for the bad news to drop here. We need a major draw on this spot to drive people from the Statler all the way down to this end of the Main Street district and on towards the convention center. Even another nice hotel would be welcomed here.
As long as that horrible McDonalds is still standing, this area will never have good prospects. That McDonalds alone brings out some of the worst criminals.
dbent wrote:I used to live right up this street on the opposite side of Belo Garden, just saying as a former neighbor of the area removing the downtown Greyhound station would be the most impactful change to remove the criminal element ditto the DART West End bus station.....
Matt777 wrote:Tucy wrote:Matt777 wrote:
It's just so their lease sheet can have a certain ratio of parking spaces/square footage that higher than competing buildings. It's not based on actual demand. GROSS.
Source?
Sources: Commercial real estate in Dallas, Fountain Place, Trammell Crow Center, Bank of America Tower's parking garage plans, The Statler, Hampton Inn Downtown, Dallas in general.
Tucy wrote:Matt777 wrote:Tucy wrote:
So... apparently no source.
Tucy wrote:Matt777 wrote:Tucy wrote:
Source?
Sources: Commercial real estate in Dallas, Fountain Place, Trammell Crow Center, Bank of America Tower's parking garage plans, The Statler, Hampton Inn Downtown, Dallas in general.
So... apparently no source.
vman wrote:Tucy wrote:Matt777 wrote:
Uhhhh, you're more than welcome to do some research yourself if you're doubtful of Matt777's info.
lakewoodhobo wrote:I'm starting to wonder if I misunderstood what was happening with the lot. Pretty sure I saw it closed on a weekday with heavy machinery digging it up. On the most recent Google Maps, it looks like it was in really good shape, so I don't think it needed repairs.
We'll see, I guess.
Matt777 wrote:Tucy wrote:Matt777 wrote:
Sources: Commercial real estate in Dallas, Fountain Place, Trammell Crow Center, Bank of America Tower's parking garage plans, The Statler, Hampton Inn Downtown, Dallas in general.
So... apparently no source.
If all of those examples still aren't enough for you, and just how commercial real estate in this city runs in general, then you can read it in print here in this aptly named D Magazine article, "Dear Dallas, Can You Please Stop Being So Dallas? Your Future Depends on It."
https://www.dmagazine.com/frontburner/2 ... nds-on-it/
The article even mentions Bank of America Tower specifically. The section you will find interesting is this:
"If you ask someone what’s wrong with downtown Dallas, depending on who you talk to, you will usually hear two seemingly contradictory answers:
1) Too much parking
2) Too little parking
........
The second answer comes from anyone who is familiar with how downtown real estate works. Even though there appears to be an overabundance of parking lots and garages — so much so that it breaks up the cohesiveness of the center city — there is not nearly enough parking to compete with the parking that suburban commercial real estate buildings offer. And so, in order to lure new tenants downtown, real estate brokers are constantly trying to figure out ways to offer their clients more parking.
The result is that while downtown is experiencing a unprecedented renaissance, for every redo and rehab, there’s a fight for another parking garage. Two steps forward, one step back."
It is incredible that we are facing the possibility of this lot becoming an ugly, hulking, unnecessary and unwanted parking garage. This lot, at the prime corner of MAIN and GRIFFIN, two of the most important streets in Downtown Dallas, right next to the tallest and most recognizable tower in Dallas, directly across from the Belo Gardens Park, will be a massive concrete monstrosity that does not add to our urban fabric but CERTAINLY detracts.
According the ParkMe, the existing monstrous BofA Tower garage is currently 59% full on a Monday morning.... and never seems to get more than 70% full..... so where is the unmet demand? There is none.... the demand is from the commercial real estate brokers and their lease sheets. It's like a real estate bubble, but for parking.
https://www.parkme.com/lot/83011/bofa-p ... -dallas-tx
If we allow this behavior to continue, we lose the chance to make our city center the urban, bustling, full of life city center that it used to be and that our city forefathers envisioned. People will continue to move here then pack up their bags 2 or 3 years later for greener pastures. Eventually, nobody else will come if we don't make this city a desirable place to live and play. Detroit was VERY nice before it's downfall.....
dbent wrote:.... removing the downtown Greyhound station would be the most impactful change to remove the criminal element .....
itsjrd1964 wrote:dbent wrote:.... removing the downtown Greyhound station would be the most impactful change to remove the criminal element .....
It's too bad they don't do the DTD Greyhound like what they have at the ITC station in Fort Worth ( http://www.fwta.org/maps-schedules/stat ... r-centers/ ). The ITC has:
* primary Trinity Metro transit center
* Amtrak station
* TRE station
* TexRail station
* Enterprise rental car counter
* bike share spot/docking station
* Subway restaurant
* Fort Worth CVB visitor's center space
* Greyhound station
...all in one place, pretty good setting, people milling about but not loitering. I've been there twice, and am still amazed that somebody hasn't come up with something like that for in/near DTD.
Tnexster wrote:Noticed this morning they have an asphalt remover on site, didn't see that yesterday and there were men working.
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:Tnexster wrote:Noticed this morning they have an asphalt remover on site, didn't see that yesterday and there were men working.
Yeah I posted this yesterday. Also I noticed that they poured new concrete in the middle of the lot and created new curbs.
lakewoodhobo wrote:Interesting view of this same block from around 1910 (I think). Poydras is the main street visible here with Commerce St in the foreground and Main St in the background. On the lower-right side where it says "Drugs" is where McDonald's is today. The rest of the photo is parking lots now with the exception of BoA Plaza which would be on the top left of the photo.
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itsjrd1964 wrote:As for the topic, it's good that there is at least one surface-lot operator or owner wanting their lot to look good while it's around. Too many of the other ones have shabby (or worse) appearances. Yes, we all know there are wasted or unfulfilled development opportunities in the CBD because of them, but I guess some land owners would rather have the "sure thing" of the parking revenue coming in.
itsjrd1964 wrote:Toyota's CA offices were in Torrance prior to their move here, not L.A. or San Francisco, so unless there was a dramatic shift in their corporate culture prior to or during the move here, they weren't going to choose a CBD or center-city location to move to.
As for the topic, it's good that there is at least one surface-lot operator or owner wanting their lot to look good while it's around. Too many of the other ones have shabby (or worse) appearances. Yes, we all know there are wasted or unfulfilled development opportunities in the CBD because of them, but I guess some land owners would rather have the "sure thing" of the parking revenue coming in.