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Design District: Moxy Hotel

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Design District: Moxy Hotel

Postby lakewoodhobo » 02 Apr 2018 10:52

Page 50 of the CPC Agenda for this week contains the following request by a bunch of LLCs related to Dunhill Partners:

"An application to replat a 3.692-acre tract of land to create 4 lots ranging in size from 0.6-acre to 1.412-acre on property located between Hi Line Drive and Stemmons Freeway, east of Oak Lawn Avenue."

The plat document attached to the request calls it "Moxy Addition". I can't remember if this hotel had been discussed on the forum, but I found a website describing it here: http://www.keystoneeb5.com/projects/

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Dallas Hotel will be a 147,918 square foot, 172-room Marriott Moxy hotel in the Dallas Design District. Offering: 24/7 convenience, a Tech-enabled lobby and common spaces, Grab-and-go coffee shop, Pool & outdoor sun deck, Full-circuit gym, stretch area and spin bikes. Additionally it will feature sleeping rooms with small footprint, but big offering and 47” Flat-screen TV and Enclosed and private meeting spaces. Given Dallas’s many employers, tourism attractions, special event venues, and convention center, the outlook for the market area is positive. The hotel’s occupancy penetration is positioned above the market-average level, supported by its Marriott brand affiliation.

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Re: Design District: Moxy Hotel

Postby DPatel304 » 02 Apr 2018 10:57

This is new to me, would be great to see this one happen.

It looks like this one will be directly across the street from the Virgin Hotel?

EDIT: Got the location wrong, it's on the east side of Oak Lawn Ave, not the west.
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Re: Design District: Moxy Hotel

Postby tamtagon » 02 Apr 2018 11:03

so, like, describing the lobby and common areas of a new hotel as "tech-enabled" isn't that like describing a new cars as "comes with brakes?"

Where's the request for a public-private partnership to turn Turtle Creek through the Design District into a lush, cafe lined riverwalk like the one in San Antonio?

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Re: Design District: Moxy Hotel

Postby Matt777 » 02 Apr 2018 11:43

tamtagon wrote:
Where's the request for a public-private partnership to turn Turtle Creek through the Design District into a lush, cafe lined riverwalk like the one in San Antonio?


Is this something that has been proposed or just an idea of yours? I have also thought this would be a wonderful addition to the area, especially connecting it to trails and the future Trinity Parks.

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Re: Design District: Moxy Hotel

Postby tamtagon » 02 Apr 2018 11:47

^An idea I cannot believe lives on this forum only.

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Re: Design District: Moxy Hotel

Postby DPatel304 » 02 Apr 2018 11:55

I'm sure it's only a matter of time. We'll probably see more and more development along Turtle Creek in the coming years, which will hopefully drive up interest/demand in seeing something done with this.

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Re: Design District: Moxy Hotel

Postby ContriveDallasite » 02 Apr 2018 16:08

Nice stuff, recently stayed at the Moxy hotel in Berlin, very similar experience to an ALOFT hotel. Would be cool to see what happens with the river walk in the design district. Would be even better if they could tie it in with the Trinity project as well.

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Re: Design District: Moxy Hotel

Postby R1070 » 02 Apr 2018 21:09

Sounds like this will be by the Hi Line highrise apartments.

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Re: Design District: Moxy Hotel

Postby Dallas12 » 03 Apr 2018 08:03

tamtagon wrote:so, like, describing the lobby and common areas of a new hotel as "tech-enabled" isn't that like describing a new cars as "comes with brakes?"

Where's the request for a public-private partnership to turn Turtle Creek through the Design District into a lush, cafe lined riverwalk like the one in San Antonio?

That summary almost seems like it was written in another language and translated to English haha

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Re: Design District: Moxy Hotel

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 03 Apr 2018 08:42

I think whats nice to see is if that rendering is accurate it has an underground garage rather than a podium. You can see a ramp going underground near the green space. It still looks very suburban as far as site layout but an underground garage is a nice shift.

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Re: Design District: Moxy Hotel

Postby DPatel304 » 03 Apr 2018 10:04

cowboyeagle05 wrote:I think whats nice to see is if that rendering is accurate it has an underground garage rather than a podium. You can see a ramp going underground near the green space. It still looks very suburban as far as site layout but an underground garage is a nice shift.


It's certainly better than the podium-style development we used to see, however, I really wish developers would, instead, do above-ground parking that can later be converted into other uses in the future, and just mask it really well.

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Re: Design District: Moxy Hotel

Postby Matt777 » 03 Apr 2018 10:25

Is this on the corner of Hi Line and Oak Lawn, where the Ann Sacks tile showroom is?

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Re: Design District: Moxy Hotel

Postby DPatel304 » 03 Apr 2018 11:43

Matt777 wrote:Is this on the corner of Hi Line and Oak Lawn, where the Ann Sacks tile showroom is?


We don't know specifically where the hotel will be built, but, in that same block, there is some empty land:
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.7971841 ... a=!3m1!1e3

I'm not sure if it's big enough for this hotel though.

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Re: Design District: Moxy Hotel

Postby lakewoodhobo » 03 Apr 2018 11:56

Based on the photo on page 55, it looks like this replaces the buildings occupied by Pakpao, Oak, Miele, bauhaus and Kim Dawson Agency. I shaded the image myself but the black outline is theirs.

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Re: Design District: Moxy Hotel

Postby Matt777 » 03 Apr 2018 12:47

Oh wow, this is taking out a lot of the dining/retail/bar establishments that made this area busier. Not sure how I feel about this unless Miele, Bauhaus, Oak, Pakpao, Quill, and the others are accommodated nearby. These are the very establishments that hotel guests at Moxy and Virgin would be walking to. Without them, it's just a suburban model hotel on an interstate.

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Re: Design District: Moxy Hotel

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 03 Apr 2018 15:31

I imagine Oak and Quil could be accommodated in the new building very easily if their building is even on the chopping block here. The rendering doesn't provide a clear indicator of site layout and scale to me so it's hard to tell until a site plan is released. Personally, I would gladly trade the active hotel over these two sleepy restaurants/bars. A hotel of this nature will help turn over more retail space around them plus I imagine the hotel will have a bar restaurant of its own if Quill or Oak are not staying.

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Re: Design District: Moxy Hotel

Postby DPatel304 » 03 Apr 2018 15:36

Yeah, I'm not too worried about existing restaurants in the Design District. It's not even confirmed that those buildings will be razed, and, even if they are, there is nothing unique about those buildings, and they could easily be relocated to another nearby building.

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Re: Design District: Moxy Hotel

Postby lakewoodhobo » 08 May 2018 17:13

Not sure this has anything to do with the hotel because it's on the other side of Hi Line Dr, but the sudden departure of FT33 could mean that more changes are coming. At the very least, this creates an opening for Oak or Pakpao if they decide to move.

https://www.dmagazine.com/food-drink/20 ... n-june-23/


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