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East Quarter: ~24 Building Redevelopment

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Re: East Quarter: ~24 Building Redevelopment

Postby lakewoodhobo » 24 May 2018 10:57

I really wish the historic fire station at 2121 Main were part of this development. Even though it has that terrible 1980s glass box addition, it's probably one of the first times the city fought and won a battle to keep a historic facade. In 1982 the new owner wanted to convert the entire thing to a modern office building but the city sought a restraining order and even sent police officers to make sure it wouldn't be demolished in the middle of the night.

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Re: East Quarter: ~24 Building Redevelopment

Postby lakewoodhobo » 24 May 2018 14:02

cowboyeagle05 wrote:What is unfortunate is the smaller building at the corner there labeled 2200 Main in this screenshot will be torn down for parking. I am not sad for the historical quality of the building but because the corner will become another lot.

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Definitely not wasting any time.

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Re: East Quarter: ~24 Building Redevelopment

Postby lakewoodhobo » 24 May 2018 14:25

More random history related to these buildings:

In 1951 when land was being assembled for the future Statler Hotel, the final holdout agreed to a swap involving 2112 Commerce, clearing the way for construction. The building had been occupied by IBM, which still had some time on its lease there.

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You can still see the ghost sign for "International Business Machines" on the building.

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Re: East Quarter: ~24 Building Redevelopment

Postby DPatel304 » 06 Jun 2018 16:47

So according to this master-list (credit goes to CTroyMathis), National Anthem and PMA will open Fall of this year. Seems a bit ambitious, but, then again, they've wasted very little time in kicking off the East Quarter development.

National Anthem is a restaurant going into the vintage triangular Magnolia Oil building in downtown Dallas from favorite chef Nick Badovinus. Fall 2018.

PMA is a drop-in spot serving coffee, doughnuts, and to-go items, going into the vintage triangular Magnolia Oil building in downtown Dallas from favorite chef Nick Badovinus. Fall 2018.

http://dallas.culturemap.com/news/resta ... -openings/

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Re: East Quarter: ~24 Building Redevelopment

Postby jrd1964 » 07 Jun 2018 07:59

Candy weighs in.... she dishes about the East Quarter but thinks more residential should be in the mix.

https://candysdirt.com/2018/06/05/downt ... sidential/

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Re: East Quarter: ~24 Building Redevelopment

Postby ContriveDallasite » 07 Jun 2018 08:48

Now if only we could get past this little crux.

All the plan needs is some non-millionaire housing that’s affordable to folks who work nearby that adds the vibrancy downtown Dallas really needs.

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Re: East Quarter: ~24 Building Redevelopment

Postby exelone31 » 07 Jun 2018 09:13

National Anthem, eh? What a strangely controversial name choice.

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Re: East Quarter: ~24 Building Redevelopment

Postby exelone31 » 07 Jun 2018 10:57

I'll go ahead and grab the easy and obvious joke by guessing that National Anthem will be a restaurant without chairs?

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Re: East Quarter: ~24 Building Redevelopment

Postby tamtagon » 07 Jun 2018 12:16

^hahahaha

I agree with Jon Anderson of Candy's Dirt - The East Quarter needs people, and given the prime location between Farmers Market, Deep Ellum and the rest of the CBD, it should be developed as the most densely populated pocket in the CBD to date.

I disagree with Jon Anderson of Candy's Dirt - If I-345 is removed, 1-200,000 thru traffic trips will not divert to city streets, thru-traffic folks will find another downtown bypass.
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Re: East Quarter: ~24 Building Redevelopment

Postby I45Tex » 19 Jun 2018 20:54

Would someone be willing to helpfully transcribe the graphic at the top of this thread onto our pinned comprehensive projects map? I want to do it but, at least this month, I just can't justify the time while I'm applying for urban development or wider regeneration/innovation jobs (PM if you know someone who's staffing up, please!)

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Re: East Quarter: ~24 Building Redevelopment

Postby willyk » 19 Jun 2018 22:04

tamtagon wrote:
I agree with Jon Anderson of Candy's Dirt - The East Quarter needs people, and given the prime location between Farmers Market, Deep Ellum and the rest of the CBD, it should be developed as the most densely populated pocket in the CBD


Are there development sites available? It would be nice if the people running out of sites on Henderson and Bennet could redirect their attention over here. If that’s not realistic, then the larger stuff like what’s happening on Ross Ave would be great too. Does anyone know if Todd controls only the buildings, or do they own the residential sites too?

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Re: East Quarter: ~24 Building Redevelopment

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 31 Jul 2018 10:20

I have no news but I think its time we check in on the progress of this project. I'll see if I can gather some pics today of any work that is apparent.

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Re: East Quarter: ~24 Building Redevelopment

Postby Matt777 » 31 Jul 2018 10:53

I pass through this area on the way to work daily, and it seems like they are focusing on the Purgatory building and the triangular building. The triangular one looks about ready to be finished out as a restaurant space. Exterior work looks complete for the most part.

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Re: East Quarter: ~24 Building Redevelopment

Postby lakewoodhobo » 05 Sep 2018 10:40

Tech firm more than doubling its office in downtown Dallas redevelopment
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... evelopment

Digital firm OrderMyGear has rented 23,000 square feet of offices in the new East Quarter redevelopment along Commerce Street at Cesar Chavez.

The building where the company is expanding at 2211 Commerce Street was a Cadillac auto dealership back in the 1920s and 1930s.

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Re: East Quarter: ~24 Building Redevelopment

Postby DPatel304 » 05 Sep 2018 11:12

Looks like this area is off to a good start. This is probably my most anticipated project, and, assuming the economy keeps doing well, I really expect this area to explode in the next 5 years.

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Postby trueicon » 05 Sep 2018 11:45

Yes, this area is off to a great start. Still wish they went with a different name (I personally like "Shallow Ellum"), but East Quarter is fine. Maybe they can brand East Quarter as EQ (which means "emotional intelligence")?

Something else positive I just thought about -- EQ certainly helps the chances of i345 being torn down. I imagine the developer will flex his muscle because obviously a teardown would increase property values and the overall viability of this project.

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Re: East Quarter: ~24 Building Redevelopment

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 05 Sep 2018 13:30

trueicon wrote: I imagine the developer will flex his muscle because obviously a teardown would increase property values and the overall viability of this project.


He most certainly will. He already mentioned his position on that during the EQ ribbon ceremony.

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Re: East Quarter: ~24 Building Redevelopment

Postby Tnexster » 10 Sep 2018 20:35

Tech is good, if the area gets a reputation for being tech heavy this will be full in no time. Not to mention the positive impact on all of downtown.

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Re: East Quarter: ~24 Building Redevelopment

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 11 Sep 2018 08:41

I mean this area has been popular with tech companies already. Most of these buildings have been decent office space for some time so I am anxious to see them do something about the lifelessness the area has had. Mind you making the old purgatory nightclub building an active office building will help by adding a few more employees into the pile. Mostly its been dead because they have all been office space on the first level with no restaurants or retailers to liven it up a bit. Even at lunchtime, the biggest crowd has always be the homeless passing through.

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Re: East Quarter: ~24 Building Redevelopment

Postby lakewoodhobo » 11 Sep 2018 11:58

I wonder if Jackson St could be narrowed or even closed here to give the district a pedestrian-oriented focal point. Build something with balconies on the other side, similar in scale to the French quarter, and connect it all with festival lights to give it some personality so walking is less of a game of Frogger. It would just be a block, but it would set the standard for what the future of this area could look like.

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I'm optimistic about the East Quarter in general, but it needs much bigger ideas than just fixing and rebranding commercial space if it's going to thrive.
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Re: East Quarter: ~24 Building Redevelopment

Postby muncien » 11 Sep 2018 12:39

lakewoodhobo wrote:I wonder if Jackson St could be narrowed or even closed here to give the district a pedestrian-oriented focal point. Build something with balconies on the other side, similar in scale to the French quarter, and connect it all with festival lights to give it some personality so walking is less of a game of Frogger. It would just be a block, but it would set the standard for what the future of this area could look like.

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I'm optimistic about the East Quarter in general, but it needs much bigger ideas than just fixing and rebranding commercial space if it's going to thrive.


Totally... Jackson doesn't leave the CBD on either it's west or east end, and is already getting closed at ATT campus. I've always thought it would make a good east/west pedestrian corridor to compliment Harwood as a N/S pedestrian corridor.
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Re: East Quarter: ~24 Building Redevelopment

Postby exelone31 » 11 Sep 2018 12:47

lakewoodhobo wrote:I wonder if Jackson St could be narrowed or even closed here to give the district a pedestrian-oriented focal point. Build something with balconies on the other side, similar in scale to the French quarter, and connect it all with festival lights to give it some personality so walking is less of a game of Frogger. It would just be a block, but it would set the standard for what the future of this area could look like.

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I'm optimistic about the East Quarter in general, but it needs much bigger ideas than just fixing and rebranding commercial space if it's going to thrive.


I think that's a great idea. Something additional to consider is that this image will is a block west of where the new park is supposed to go as well (Jackson Park? that may be wrong). Hopefully that park will also bring a bit of a pedestrian vibe.

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Re: East Quarter: ~24 Building Redevelopment

Postby lakewoodhobo » 11 Sep 2018 12:57

exelone31 wrote:I think that's a great idea. Something additional to consider is that this image will is a block west of where the new park is supposed to go as well (Jackson Park? that may be wrong). Hopefully that park will also bring a bit of a pedestrian vibe.


Good point. That section of Jackson acts more like an extension of Wood which is already going away for Harwood Park.

A pedestrian mall here would feel like a natural extension of the park. Shawn Todd(?) has said that part of the reason for purchasing these properties is the proximity to green space.

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Re: East Quarter: ~24 Building Redevelopment

Postby Cbdallas » 11 Sep 2018 16:04

I walked from Deep Ellum down through Farmers Market down Harwood and through East District then on through the Arts District on Sunday and I can feel how this entire part of downtown is about to merge into the feel of one cohesive area. I would even include going down to AT & T discovery area as well. This has been neglected for so long but it can have a big resurgence.

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Re: East Quarter: ~24 Building Redevelopment

Postby R1070 » 11 Sep 2018 21:11

The area is currently too broken up by surface parking. Once these current buildings are renovated, infill will be necessary to make it actually work.


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