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Re: East Quarter: ~24 Building Redevelopment

Postby Matt777 » 26 Nov 2018 09:27

I'm so glad that this cool building is being saved and re-purposed. But I thought they were turning into some kind of event/music venue with outdoor performance space?

Hopefully they keep all the exterior Mason detailing too.

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 26 Nov 2018 16:34

Last I heard some local chapters wanted to remove some of the more valuable Masonic details but the owners refused. I imagine the Landmark Society would be against removing such details for the sake of historical integrity. I think it's odd that when the Mason's sold the property they didn't remove them themselves but that could have been a cost-prohibitive process too. I wonder how likable it will be as office space though. It just doesn't look like the interior gets lots of good natural light which could make the space less attractive for office space. I would love to have seen what the 500 seat auditorium looked like.


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Re: East Quarter: ~24 Building Redevelopment

Postby eburress » 29 Nov 2018 17:05

Wow, what a transformation! Gorgeous!

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Postby R1070 » 29 Nov 2018 18:17

These renovations are very nice and much needed. Future infill to piece it all together will be critical. Hopefully lots of hotels, condos and apartments.

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 29 Nov 2018 18:19

The good thing is leasing will also be tied together with a whole new marketing package. Fresh energy is a good thing for these islands of Dallas History.

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Postby Matt777 » 29 Nov 2018 18:21

I pass through this area on the way to work and the progress has been both quick and beautiful. The key will be the empty lots and I think about their potential every time I see them. Residential in these spaces with ground level retail will drive this area from rubble to one of the most desirable parts of the urban core. The remaining shreds of old urban fabric in this area are great. Plus, walk west to Downtown job or east to Deep Ellum! Sign me up!

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Postby Hwulivn » 30 Nov 2018 00:55

So true. This really has the potential to be the most interesting urban area of the whole metro.

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Postby mcrdal15 » 30 Nov 2018 12:10

Hwulivn wrote:So true. This really has the potential to be the most interesting urban area of the whole metro.


I agree. At the same time, I wished there were more buildings on the Elm St. side of Downtown. Once you head down Elm from Deep Ellum into Downtown, all you see are acres upon acres of surface lots on your right side until you hit Harwood St. Main & Commerce are much better in that regard.

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Postby R1070 » 30 Nov 2018 21:20

I'd love to live in this area near the FM, DE and City Center.

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Postby lakewoodhobo » 13 Dec 2018 13:39

Downtown' Dallas' East Quarter redevelopment lands a major tech tenant
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... ech-tenant

Dialexa - a fast-growing tech product design and R&D firm that got its start on the east side of downtown - is renting a row of three buildings in the new East Quarter project on Commerce Street.

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Postby DPatel304 » 13 Dec 2018 13:45

Dialexa cofounder Scott Harper said the company will more than double its offices with the new East Quarter lease.

"We've been down in that area for maybe five years prior to the current project," Harper said. "We love the area.

"We looked around to see what else was out there and at different areas of town," he said. "This ended up being the best fit for us - we didn't feel the same about anywhere else."

Harper said he hopes to move into the new office in the second quarter of next year.


The article title is a bit misleading. I wouldn't say they exactly 'landed' this tenant, since the tenant was already leasing space in the area. However, they are doubling the size of their office, and upgrading to one of the newly renovated buildings, so still very positive new.

In addition, they said they will be moving into the new office sometime mid next year, which is really great to hear. It sounds like a number of the buildings will be wrapping up sometime next year, which will be really exciting to see.

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Postby DPatel304 » 01 Feb 2019 18:11

This promotional was posted on their website a few days ago. Seems like it's basically just a re-hash of what we already know, but still cool nonetheless:
https://vimeo.com/313881576

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Postby Tnexster » 02 Feb 2019 13:03

Nice video, be nice if some additional residential shows up around it.

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Postby mdg109 » 03 Feb 2019 11:45

I like how they're extending the enclosed bottom portion of the triangular building for more retail/restaurant space. Also, I didn't realize they're wanting to close the street next to it for pedestrians.
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Postby jetnd87 » 03 Feb 2019 16:19

Damn that Mangnolia Oil / KLIF re-do is beautiful.

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Postby tamtagon » 03 Feb 2019 20:16

I keep wondering if a vintage streetcar could get a neighborhood funding source like MATA that connects Union Station, ATT, East Quarter and Deep Ellum....

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Postby DPatel304 » 03 Feb 2019 22:25

Isn't the plan to eventually extend the Oak Cliff street car into Downtown down either Elm & Commerce, or Main? It wouldn't get to Deep Ellum, but it would connect Union Station, and come close to ATT and East Quarter.

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Postby muncien » 04 Feb 2019 10:39

mdg109 wrote:I like how they're extending the enclosed bottom portion of the triangular building for more retail/restaurant space. Also, I didn't realize they're wanting to close the street next to it for pedestrians.


No kidding! That is great news (if approved). If we could convert several more of these streets like this, you could end up with quite an inviting downtown for pedestrians.
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Postby exelone31 » 04 Feb 2019 12:07

This area is so exciting. There are already tons of people who visit the Farmer's Market, and this seems to be close enough that it could turn into another big, walkable destination.

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Postby joshua.dodd » 04 Feb 2019 15:47

There must be some sort of initiative by the citizens to force the city and developers to build exclusively brick and mortar buildings of similar architectural aesthetic as the buildings here. No stucco and no glass facades. I think we've had enough glass and stucco a city can take.

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 05 Feb 2019 01:50

Hold your horse's guys look again at that rendering again. There is a driveway curb cut clearly still there where the public street was so it looks like it will still be a Valet pull through at least. Still a major improvement but hardly eliminating cars altogether. Even looks like they simply plan to have a really nice valet lot connected to that pedestrian walkway. You have to look at the details in these renderings Developers always lie to your face in renderings like this. They want you to see the fireworks and miss out on the stuff that most people would ignore.

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Postby lakewoodhobo » 25 Feb 2019 13:55

Walked through the area today and saw that all of the buildings are busy with construction crews, although I was disappointed to see that the Magnolia/KLIF building still has a good long way to go.

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Postby ArtVandelay » 26 Feb 2019 19:24

muncien wrote:
mdg109 wrote:I like how they're extending the enclosed bottom portion of the triangular building for more retail/restaurant space. Also, I didn't realize they're wanting to close the street next to it for pedestrians.


No kidding! That is great news (if approved). If we could convert several more of these streets like this, you could end up with quite an inviting downtown for pedestrians.


This latest thoroughfare plan amendment (11/14/18) has that segment of Jackson as a 1 lane westbound (it’s like three lanes eastbound today) with a two-way bicycle facility and on-street parking. So if they can pull off what we’re seeing in the rendering, that will be really cool. It makes much more sense for that segment to go the opposite direction of Commerce.

It also looks like EQ has secured the parking lot behind the Scottish Rite temple on Canton St. Scottish Rite has been trying to find a way to monetize that property for a long time. The EQ marketing collateral shows it as parking, so that may be all it’s going to be used for but maybe they will develop it.

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Postby lakewoodhobo » 28 Feb 2019 18:50

My favorite thing to come out of the East Quarter development so far. This is what the Masonic Temple would look like if you traveled back in time.

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Postby eburress » 01 Mar 2019 08:50

I was going to post this too. What a wonderful transformation!

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Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 01 Mar 2019 09:30

lakewoodhobo wrote:My favorite thing to come out of the East Quarter development so far. This is what the Masonic Temple would look like if you traveled back in time.

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What a beautiful restoration.

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Postby dallaz » 01 Mar 2019 11:51

^^Wow, I didn’t realize how beuatiul that building is until now.

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Postby Tnexster » 02 Mar 2019 11:24

That is amazing! So glad they did that.

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 03 Mar 2019 23:43

The same treatment has been done to parts of the exterior of the Hall of State in Fair Park and it looks a hell of a lot better as well. I wonder how long it will take to look somewhat dirty/aged.

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Postby quixomniac » 09 May 2019 22:46

Didnt see a specific thread for this, hopefully im not reposting.
But they have nice renderings this time!
"Now the Dallas-based developer is filling a vacant block between the historic buildings it's renovating with a new high-rise retail, office and apartment project.

The 17-story tower is planned at the intersection of Jackson Street and Cesar Chavez Boulevard near Deep Ellum and the Farmers Market."

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https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... e-downtown
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Postby eburress » 09 May 2019 22:48

Wow, that's pretty freaking awesome! I hope this happens and isn't just marketing propaganda!

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Postby quixomniac » 09 May 2019 22:57

eburress wrote:Wow, that's pretty freaking awesome! I hope this happens and isn't just marketing propaganda!


Forgot to add a few things.
Looks like "Work is scheduled to begin on the tower later this year, with the project to open starting in 2021."

Also:
Todd Interests' Stephanie Herold said there will be 336 apartments in the upper levels of the building, with an eighth-floor deck with swimming pool and outdoor areas for the tenants.
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Postby R1070 » 09 May 2019 23:09

Great news! I hope this area starts to boom with infill projects! There’s so much potential right there.

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Postby ArtVandelay » 09 May 2019 23:18

Tell that to the low rise homeowners in the farmers market that will no longer have a view of downtown.

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Postby Matt777 » 09 May 2019 23:42

I knew they had to have some residential up their sleeves for East Quarter. This looks fantastic!!! And they're preserving the Meletio Electric building! Nothing but net with this one.

This building will be in high demand. Walk west to the CBD, walk east right into Bark Park and Deep Ellum, south is the Farmer's Market, the new park being built right east of the site, and isn't the DART D2 line going to come right through here? What a development.

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Postby eburress » 10 May 2019 00:26

ArtVandelay wrote:Tell that to the low rise homeowners in the farmers market that will no longer have a view of downtown.


I'll never understand people living in Downtown complaining about losing their views of Downtown. If that's not an example of not being able to see the forest for the trees, I don't know what is.

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Postby eburress » 10 May 2019 00:26

quixomniac wrote:
eburress wrote:Wow, that's pretty freaking awesome! I hope this happens and isn't just marketing propaganda!


Forgot to add a few things.
Looks like "Work is scheduled to begin on the tower later this year, with the project to open starting in 2021."

Also:
Todd Interests' Stephanie Herold said there will be 336 apartments in the upper levels of the building, with an eighth-floor deck with swimming pool and outdoor areas for the tenants.
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Thanks so much for sharing, quixomniac!

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Postby ContriveDallasite » 10 May 2019 03:04

ArtVandelay wrote:Tell that to the low rise homeowners in the farmers market that will no longer have a view of downtown.


The NIMBYism in this city is incredible :lol:

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eburress wrote:
ArtVandelay wrote:Tell that to the low rise homeowners in the farmers market that will no longer have a view of downtown.


I'll never understand people living in Downtown complaining about losing their views of Downtown. If that's not an example of not being able to see the forest for the trees, I don't know what is.


Yeah you wouldn’t understand unless a) you purchase your home for the view (a major selling point of the neighborhood) and b) a 17 story building was built abutting your property casting a shadow over it.

The character of that neighborhood and the Harwood Historic District is mid rise not high rise. So yes, there was an expectation there wouldn’t be high rises in that section of downtown.

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Postby ArtVandelay » 10 May 2019 06:42

ContriveDallasite wrote:
ArtVandelay wrote:Tell that to the low rise homeowners in the farmers market that will no longer have a view of downtown.


The NIMBYism in this city is incredible :lol:


Yep. On the bright side the EQ development is bringing life to the no mans land between the Farmers Market and Main Street commercial district.

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Postby muncien » 10 May 2019 08:48

This is a massive building, yet they still managed to incorporate some great street interaction. Check out that main corner... very nicely done.

I actually tried to buy one of those town homes immediately adjacent to this building (the first set just before InTown took over) many years ago. The ROW between those town homes and this development was the original D2 alignment. That was one of my main reasons for buying at the time, but stuff like this makes it even better. I really wish I could have pulled that off.

I realize the views are important. But, what is more important is a thriving neighborhood. This place has taken off, and developments like this will make those town-homes values soar.

There will always be NIMBY's. They even complained about the original D2 plan, even though that ROW existed prior to the residential units going in. How do you buy something, and either not do your research about the neighboring property, or simply be so ignorant to think your little 2/3 story unit in the city core will never have it's view blocked? Luckily, I think a majority of these folks know better and will be happy with it. But, they won't be the vocal ones.
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Postby eburress » 10 May 2019 08:50

ArtVandelay wrote:
eburress wrote:
ArtVandelay wrote:Tell that to the low rise homeowners in the farmers market that will no longer have a view of downtown.


I'll never understand people living in Downtown complaining about losing their views of Downtown. If that's not an example of not being able to see the forest for the trees, I don't know what is.


Yeah you wouldn’t understand unless a) you purchase your home for the view (a major selling point of the neighborhood) and b) a 17 story building was built abutting your property casting a shadow over it.

The character of that neighborhood and the Harwood Historic District is mid rise not high rise. So yes, there was an expectation there wouldn’t be high rises in that section of downtown.


More like an assumption, and a pretty poor one at that.

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Postby ArtVandelay » 10 May 2019 08:57

eburress wrote:
ArtVandelay wrote:
eburress wrote:
I'll never understand people living in Downtown complaining about losing their views of Downtown. If that's not an example of not being able to see the forest for the trees, I don't know what is.


Yeah you wouldn’t understand unless a) you purchase your home for the view (a major selling point of the neighborhood) and b) a 17 story building was built abutting your property casting a shadow over it.

The character of that neighborhood and the Harwood Historic District is mid rise not high rise. So yes, there was an expectation there wouldn’t be high rises in that section of downtown.


More like an assumption, and a pretty poor one at that.


Haha Eburress. How sanctimonious of you.

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Postby Tnexster » 10 May 2019 09:08

ArtVandelay wrote:
eburress wrote:
ArtVandelay wrote:Tell that to the low rise homeowners in the farmers market that will no longer have a view of downtown.


I'll never understand people living in Downtown complaining about losing their views of Downtown. If that's not an example of not being able to see the forest for the trees, I don't know what is.


Yeah you wouldn’t understand unless a) you purchase your home for the view (a major selling point of the neighborhood) and b) a 17 story building was built abutting your property casting a shadow over it.

The character of that neighborhood and the Harwood Historic District is mid rise not high rise. So yes, there was an expectation there wouldn’t be high rises in that section of downtown.


Reminds me of people living in 1999 McKinney surrounded by all of the land that eventually got developed and then people living there seemed surprised.

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Postby ArtVandelay » 10 May 2019 09:26

The farmers market homeowners may absolutely love it.

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But if you're this guy it has to be a wicked burn. On the bright side, the first 10 or so levels overlooking the house is just parking. Sunbathe in the nude at your peril.
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Postby LBK2013 » 10 May 2019 09:58

ArtVandelay wrote:
eburress wrote:
ArtVandelay wrote:
Yeah you wouldn’t understand unless a) you purchase your home for the view (a major selling point of the neighborhood) and b) a 17 story building was built abutting your property casting a shadow over it.

The character of that neighborhood and the Harwood Historic District is mid rise not high rise. So yes, there was an expectation there wouldn’t be high rises in that section of downtown.


More like an assumption, and a pretty poor one at that.


Haha Eburress. How sanctimonious of you.


In what way? Did these people actually expect that this area would remain low density for the long term? If so then it was a short sighted gamble on their part. The core needs as much density as it can get. These folks would be foolish to think they'd have that view forever.

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Postby eburress » 10 May 2019 10:03

Tnexster wrote:
ArtVandelay wrote:
eburress wrote:
I'll never understand people living in Downtown complaining about losing their views of Downtown. If that's not an example of not being able to see the forest for the trees, I don't know what is.


Yeah you wouldn’t understand unless a) you purchase your home for the view (a major selling point of the neighborhood) and b) a 17 story building was built abutting your property casting a shadow over it.

The character of that neighborhood and the Harwood Historic District is mid rise not high rise. So yes, there was an expectation there wouldn’t be high rises in that section of downtown.


Reminds me of people living in 1999 McKinney surrounded by all of the land that eventually got developed and then people living there seemed surprised.


Exactly. How they could have thought their views were never going to be blocked was beyond me.

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Re: East Quarter: ~24 Building Redevelopment

Postby lakewoodhobo » 10 May 2019 10:10

The massing is a little aggressive, but I'm really liking what they're doing with Jackson St.

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Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 10 May 2019 10:13

ArtVandelay wrote:The character of that neighborhood and the Harwood Historic District is mid rise not high rise. So yes, there was an expectation there wouldn’t be high rises in that section of downtown.


That's a really poor expectation. There was bound to be new high rise construction at some point.


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