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Re: Dallas Smart District

Postby willyk » 18 Feb 2019 22:37

Class A space in a Class C location. It will never fly.

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Re: Dallas Smart District

Postby Dallas12 » 18 Feb 2019 23:24

willyk wrote:Class A space in a Class C location. It will never fly.

The same thing was said about the Crescent once upon a time...

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Re: Dallas Smart District

Postby tamtagon » 19 Feb 2019 05:58

Neighbors with one of the biggest companies in the world, ATT, Smart District is hardly a Class C location.

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Re: Dallas Smart District

Postby exelone31 » 19 Feb 2019 11:34

Dallas12 wrote:
willyk wrote:Class A space in a Class C location. It will never fly.

The same thing was said about the Crescent once upon a time...


+1 was thinking the exact same thing

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Re: Dallas Smart District

Postby Cbdallas » 19 Feb 2019 11:43

Hopefully it will someday have a new DART line going by near there as well. I think this area could really pop if they could get a noticeable building up. Also the bullet train will be coming in near there as well.

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Re: Dallas Smart District

Postby art_suckz » 19 Feb 2019 11:53

Deck Park Magic.
To the man who only has a hammer, everything he encounters begins to look like a nail.

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Re: Dallas Smart District

Postby LuvBigD » 19 Feb 2019 12:14

tamtagon wrote:Neighbors with one of the biggest companies in the world, ATT, Smart District is hardly a Class C location.
And, it's right next to the convention center which was just turned over to Spectra for management and possibly future development.

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Re: Dallas Smart District

Postby DFW » 24 Sep 2019 00:50

Found this, awesome renderings, very interesting. I believe this was the latest one. Now being called NewPark Dallas
https://www.nctcog.org/nctcg/media/Tran ... Dallas.pdf

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Re: Dallas Smart District

Postby I45Tex » 24 Sep 2019 03:55

This render has about 9 floors of parking with about 40 floors of office above that.

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Re: Dallas Smart District

Postby R1070 » 24 Sep 2019 08:35

The scale of the project is pretty reasonable. I hope to see this happen.

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Re: Dallas Smart District

Postby dd_dweller » 24 Sep 2019 08:47

Not a huge fan of this design. Dallas seems to only build boxy buildings with giant podiums. They should combine both office towers to one so we get something with more height. I understand we need parking but do we have to see it?

I do know something is better than having empty lots. Just an opinion.

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Re: Dallas Smart District

Postby eburress » 24 Sep 2019 09:11

I like the taller buildings' design but regardless I have a hard time seeing this project happening.

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Re: Dallas Smart District

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 24 Sep 2019 09:20

Yeah I don't see it happening. Especially if it's primarily focused on office. They need to invest in the area with more Residential. Then follow up with office products later on once the area is cleaned up.

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Re: Dallas Smart District

Postby DFW » 24 Sep 2019 09:45

The likely aspect of the podiums for the office towers is to bring in retail and people together.

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Re: Dallas Smart District

Postby Matt777 » 24 Sep 2019 09:56

"Academic Campus- +/- 1.4 million SF." El Centro College relocation?

The best thing about these new renderings is that the Eagle's Nest seems to stay intact. It would make a fantastic Food Hall space or a market. Those high ceilings, the tall stained glass windows, all the ornamentation. It would be a real show stopper.

Hopefully they can kick off at least a first phase to get leasing going and show that there is demand. There's very little brand new office space to choose from Downtown, and nothing of this magnitude and quality. The location is perfect too, wedged between the CBD, Farmer's Market/Deep Ellum, Convention Center, The Cedars, future HSR station, and all with I-30 access and the potential for killer skyline views.

I could do without the name "Newpark" though.

***Also, did anyone notice that in one of the nighttime renderings there's a silhouette/reflection of a building with the CNN logo right over I-30? It's faint but it's there. Maybe AT&T will relocate CNN and some Warner Media operations to Dallas?

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Re: Dallas Smart District

Postby NdoorTX » 24 Sep 2019 14:29

[quote="Matt777"]"Academic Campus- +/- 1.4 million SF." El Centro College relocation?

I thought the same thing about
El Centro relocating here. It would be a good move and great kick starter. I don’t know that KDC/ Hogue wants a junior college, though. Maybe another tech driven campus of UNT could go here?? BTW, when did KDC get involved? They always make future developments more promising with their experience and know how. I could also see them starting with residential. It seems to be a sector that is bulletproof in Dallas. ( at least the rental part of it)

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Re: Dallas Smart District

Postby I45Tex » 24 Sep 2019 14:43

But Hoque has the cheaper Pilgrims Pride land, which has less visibility and less office potential, for the kind of multifamily midrises being suggested here.

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Re: Dallas Smart District

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 24 Sep 2019 15:06

I doubt AT&T will bring a serious Time Warner move to Dallas besides some executive moves into the main HQ.

These renderings certainly are more refined and the fact that NTCOG has it just means they are helping shop the project around for other new locating companies.

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Re: Dallas Smart District

Postby Tnexster » 25 Sep 2019 12:13

dd_dweller wrote:Not a huge fan of this design. Dallas seems to only build boxy buildings with giant podiums. They should combine both office towers to one so we get something with more height. I understand we need parking but do we have to see it?

I do know something is better than having empty lots. Just an opinion.


It isn't just Dallas, Austin does it too and in fact their largest new office project going up now has 15-16 floors of parking with the tower on top.

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Re: Dallas Smart District

Postby Tucy » 25 Sep 2019 12:21

NdoorTX wrote: BTW, when did KDC get involved? They always make future developments more promising with their experience and know how. I could also see them starting with residential. It seems to be a sector that is bulletproof in Dallas. ( at least the rental part of it)


KDC has been involved since the first public announcement of the Smart District project (almost two years ago).

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Re: Dallas Smart District

Postby Tnexster » 25 Sep 2019 12:32

I like the taller tower, the twist is a nice touch but wish they would make it stand out even more. The south side of downtown needs a fresh face.


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