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Could Dallas land Amazon HQ '2'?

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Re: Could Dallas land Amazon HQ '2'?

Postby eburress » 18 Nov 2017 08:57

Tucy wrote:The more interesting take from that article is from Hillwood's president, who thinks Amazon will end up splitting this between 2 or 3 cities.


I thought so too. I've not heard any mention of that from anything Amazon's said, but I'm sure he's a tad more plugged-in to their thinking than me.

I feel like that'd be a bit of a bummer though. I want Dallas to get the whole thing! :)

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Re: Could Dallas land Amazon HQ '2'?

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 18 Nov 2017 12:29

Even if they do spread the love to two or three cities Dallas wins because the pomp and parade that has been made about the proposal.

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Re: Could Dallas land Amazon HQ '2'?

Postby DPatel304 » 18 Nov 2017 16:51

I'd be glad with them going to 2-3 cities. Dallas does have a pretty good shot, but there's some stiff competition out there. If they end up just going to one city and we end up being the #2, we get squat. If they go to 2-3 cities, this increases our chances immensely.

They plan to employ 50,000 employees, so, even a third of that is HUGE, so I'm totally fine with this.

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Re: Could Dallas land Amazon HQ '2'?

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 28 Nov 2017 15:11

Amazon to release city shortlist by this Friday?!?!....

https://atlanta.curbed.com/2017/11/28/1 ... ist-friday

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Re: Could Dallas land Amazon HQ '2'?

Postby dallaz » 28 Nov 2017 15:21

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:Amazon to release city shortlist by this Friday?!?!....

https://atlanta.curbed.com/2017/11/28/1 ... ist-friday

Interesting...

If this holds to be true, let’s hope that Dallas is on the list. Anything can happen and I don’t want to assume that we’re Amazon’s choice.

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Re: Could Dallas land Amazon HQ '2'?

Postby DAFW » 28 Nov 2017 15:24

Nope, they moved it to early 2018 :/

The group had been expecting to hear by Friday, which was when they were told Amazon would have its shortlist. Partnership spokeswoman Dianne Chase said that the volume of proposals means this week will no longer be the decision point.

“We are informed that a short list announcement is now not anticipated until early 2018,” Chase said

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/b ... ign=buffer

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Re: Could Dallas land Amazon HQ '2'?

Postby tamtagon » 15 Dec 2017 07:28

I suppose proximity to Blue Horizon's flight testing in Van Horn could be seen as favorable that Amazon HQ expands in Dallas....

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/technology/2017/12/12/jeff-bezos-blue-origin-may-firing-rocket-soon-west-texas

Jeff Bezos' Blue Origin completed another flight test in West Texas
Maria Halkias, Retail Writer Updated on 11:15 a.m on Dec. 13, 2017

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Re: Could Dallas land Amazon HQ '2'?

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 15 Dec 2017 10:48

^ wishful thinking. I don't that matters tbh.

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Re: Could Dallas land Amazon HQ '2'?

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 16 Dec 2017 17:43

https://amp.businessinsider.com/amazon- ... rs-2017-12

Amazon lobbyist spotted in Atlanta...

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Re: Could Dallas land Amazon HQ '2'?

Postby Tnexster » 16 Dec 2017 18:04

This week in Amazon-o-mania: Red state? Blue state? Which will be HQ2 state?

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/ama ... -hq2-state

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Re: Could Dallas land Amazon HQ '2'?

Postby Cord1936 » 19 Dec 2017 11:33

Hello Amazon!

Key takeaways from article:
* Dallas area top job producer in nation YOY Oct. 2017 with 94,000+ new jobs added

* More than 32,000 tech office workers added to Dallas area since 2011

* Tech firms now account for 20% of Dallas area office market with a total tech population of almost 140,000 workers - making this area one of the top 5 tech centers in the nation

* In last 7 years Dallas area has added more office jobs than any other city in the nation (except NYC) with having added almost 280,000 office jobs since 2010

* This significant office worker growth has been the main driver for leasing of 23,000,000 sf of office space in Dallas area

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Tech job growth is fueling D-FW's office boom
by Steve Brown, Dallas Morning News, 12-18-17

Article: https://www.dallasnews.com/business/real-estate/2017/12/18/tech-job-growth-fueling-d-fws-office-boom

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Re: Could Dallas land Amazon HQ '2'?

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 19 Dec 2017 11:42

The writing on the wall says hq2 to ATL

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Re: Could Dallas land Amazon HQ '2'?

Postby Austin55 » 19 Dec 2017 12:38

Atlanta definitely seems to be the front runner right now based on the rumors. I think that is great news for Dallas though, as Dallas could put up tough competition to Atlanta. Nothing is decided yet.

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Re: Could Dallas land Amazon HQ '2'?

Postby DPatel304 » 19 Dec 2017 14:13

Austin55 wrote:Atlanta definitely seems to be the front runner right now based on the rumors. I think that is great news for Dallas though, as Dallas could put up tough competition to Atlanta. Nothing is decided yet.


That's a good way of looking at it. If Amazon were eyeing something like Boston, then I would have completely lost hope at this point, but, if they are seriously considering Atlanta, then there's a good chance Dallas is #2 (or at least in their top 3).

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Re: Could Dallas land Amazon HQ '2'?

Postby Cbdallas » 19 Dec 2017 14:53

Anywhere but Atlanta please. I would be so sad to loose this to them.

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Re: Could Dallas land Amazon HQ '2'?

Postby lakewoodhobo » 19 Dec 2017 15:00

It would be pure magic if the recent problems at Hartsfield-Jackson International caused them to reconsider. At least that was my first thought after reading this headline:

Are Dallas airports better prepared than Atlanta for power outages?
https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/edit ... er-outages

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Re: Could Dallas land Amazon HQ '2'?

Postby tamtagon » 20 Dec 2017 06:55

^it's kinda funny in a way, in one of those defeating realizations that sometimes none of 'it' really matters... we put tons of effort and thinking into how schools, transportation, workforce, politico-economic packages impact or influence business decisions like this Amazon office trophy. School districts all across metro Atlanta are totally whacked out, with Atlanta Public Schools leading the pack, corruption at metro Atlanta 'city halls' may not reach the notorious level of Chicago corruption, but people seem to go to jail for graft and corruption regularly -- and the Atlanta Airport is frequently a main character in the schemes.

And then we have a complete collapse like this power outage... a thoughtful, thorough plan enacted but with a fatal flaw. A couple years ago, careless/absence of management of winter storm preparedness turned a bad two-day ice storm into a ridiculous debilitating region-wide natural disaster. And yet, Atlanta is booming! not on the same level as DFW, but it's red hot. Sometimes the terrible school districts, regular occurrence of once-in-a-lifetime crap-out just doesn't matter.

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Re: Could Dallas land Amazon HQ '2'?

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 20 Dec 2017 08:37

It doesn't matter Amazon showed their hand. Dallas' bid is merely bargaining power over Metro Atlanta's bid. Nothing to be excited about.

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Re: Could Dallas land Amazon HQ '2'?

Postby Mgreen15 » 20 Dec 2017 11:37

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:It doesn't matter Amazon showed their hand. Dallas' bid is merely bargaining power over Metro Atlanta's bid. Nothing to be excited about.


Other than the Amazon lobbyist visiting Georgia (which Amazon has already publicly stated that the visit was unrelated to HQ2), what evidence do you have that suggests Amazon has chosen Atlanta?

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Re: Could Dallas land Amazon HQ '2'?

Postby Tucy » 20 Dec 2017 11:51

Mgreen15 wrote:
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:It doesn't matter Amazon showed their hand. Dallas' bid is merely bargaining power over Metro Atlanta's bid. Nothing to be excited about.


Other than the Amazon lobbyist visiting Georgia (which Amazon has already publicly stated that the visit was unrelated to HQ2), what evidence do you have that suggests Amazon has chosen Atlanta?


Excellent question. There have been a lot of silly articles and comments about Amazon HQ2, but that had to have been one of the silliest. Area we supposed to believe Amazon doesn't already have lobbyists in pretty much every state?

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Re: Could Dallas land Amazon HQ '2'?

Postby whi5125 » 20 Dec 2017 12:05

Wow, if you bothered to read the article it even states the Lobbyist specialized in energy policy within Amazon, its not related to HQ2 at all.

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Re: Could Dallas land Amazon HQ '2'?

Postby Tucy » 20 Dec 2017 12:28

whi5125 wrote:Wow, if you bothered to read the article it even states the Lobbyist specialized in energy policy within Amazon, its not related to HQ2 at all.


Not sure which article you are referencing. The initial article I saw did not include that disclaimer. It was updated later to include the disclaimer

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Re: Could Dallas land Amazon HQ '2'?

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 20 Dec 2017 18:15

Mgreen15 wrote:Other than the Amazon lobbyist visiting Georgia (which Amazon has already publicly stated that the visit was unrelated to HQ2), what evidence do you have that suggests Amazon has chosen Atlanta?


Initially the link didn't have that disclaimer.

With that said, I know Amazon's HQ are 100% energized by renewable energy. Perhaps, these two things are related.

Why would Amazon send an Energy lobbyist to Georgia then if it didn't matter?

IDK what Georgia laws are regarding Energy ...but you can't say there's no reason they sent that guy to ATL. There's gotta be a point for him being there.... And obviously Amazon is going to say it's not related.

I'll say this, with Amazon sending their Lobbyist to Georgia, ATL city council expediting the Gulch Mixed use Project. The constant lists that have ATL as number 1 in the HQ2 sweepstakes. It's starting to look like we have a winner...

I know Amazon also has Wind and Solar Farms projects throughout the US.

If they send this dude there for that... Well, that just makes ATL even more a front runner in my eyes.

But these are just my theories .... Pure fun speculation.

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Re: Could Dallas land Amazon HQ '2'?

Postby willyk » 21 Dec 2017 03:28

The new tax bill just capped the SALT State and Local Tax deduction. Georgia has a state income tax, and the deduction will be capped at $10K. So HQ2 employees in GA would pay state income tax, and at the high end lose their deduction.

Texas as we know has no such tax. So this gives Texas another advantage over most states including GA.

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Re: Could Dallas land Amazon HQ '2'?

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 11 Jan 2018 18:05

Amazon may have dropped a clue about its new headquarters

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/compani ... ar-AAuyKsY

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Re: Could Dallas land Amazon HQ '2'?

Postby DFW » 12 Jan 2018 06:57

Anyone know when Amazon will make the announcement for HQ2?

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Re: Could Dallas land Amazon HQ '2'?

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 12 Jan 2018 08:21

They have not stated a date for the announcement. Lord knows everyone in every business newspaper from east to west has tried to get something out of Amazon. We will just have to wait until they decide to drop that economic bomb.

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Re: Could Dallas land Amazon HQ '2'?

Postby DPatel304 » 12 Jan 2018 09:09

The only thing we know is they will announce the short list of potential cities early this year.

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Re: Could Dallas land Amazon HQ '2'?

Postby Dettmann1 » 15 Jan 2018 09:26

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:Amazon may have dropped a clue about its new headquarters

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/compani ... ar-AAuyKsY


I really don't see that as being related. One of the news articles mentioned that they actually had been scouting for that amount of space prior to the HQ2 bonanza. Amazon announced a logistics hub in Atlanta around the time of the HQ2 press stuff and everyone thought it meant it was going to them (I'd argue, there does seem to be a lot of smoke with Atlanta at this point), but the point is I don't think you can draw anything from these types of leases at this point.


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