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Cityplace East: 2711 N. Haskell

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Cityplace East: 2711 N. Haskell

Postby I45Tex » 29 Jun 2017 16:21

http://www.dallascad.org/AcctDetailCom.aspx?ID=00C7713000TOWER00

http://www.datumengineers.com/assets/fi ... 20Book.pdf

http://www.datumengineers.com/assets/fi ... ctures.pdf

The last link states, for Cityplace,
"6, 7 & 9 Levels
9,000 Cars
2,500,000 Sq. Ft.
Post-Tensioned Concrete
1989"

while the first link states,
Parking Garage
8 stories
964,000 Sq. Ft.
1985

Now, other sources place the number of underground spaces at Tower at Cityplace between 3,300 and 3,400, which seems to mean a lot of the designed garage just wasn't completed. But is it really true that Cityplace goes eight levels underground? I haven't been inside, but always enjoyed seeing the stacked lobby atria from the freeway at night. This would make it another 50-story building, by the way.

Since the million square feet underground have (per the DallasCAD link) a footprint 79,000 sq. ft. larger than the above ground portion, and were built to be built atop, feel free to move posts over to this thread from the Xerox/ACS site -- itself the 7/11 HQ for a decade or two before 2711 (clever) was built -- conversation.

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Re: Cityplace East: 2711 N. Haskell

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Re: Cityplace East: 2711 N. Haskell

Postby tamtagon » 30 Jul 2017 09:49

That's enough parking to serve an entirely rebuilt Target shopping center.

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Re: Cityplace East: 2711 N. Haskell

Postby Tnexster » 30 Jul 2017 15:36

I actually think it would be fun to go see this place.

Here lie the remains of a Dallas skyscraper that was never built

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... ever-built

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Re: Cityplace East: 2711 N. Haskell

Postby lakewoodhobo » 16 Aug 2018 11:16

Dallas' landmark Cityplace Tower has a new owner
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... -new-owner

The high-profile building on the edge of Dallas' Uptown district was acquired by Dallas' Highland Capital Management.

Along with the office tower, the property that Highland Capital acquired includes underground parking for additional buildings that were never constructed on the site.

Parmenter Realty had prepared plans to build apartment, hotel and office space on along Haskell Avenue but never moved forward with those plans.


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Re: Cityplace East: 2711 N. Haskell

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 17 Aug 2018 08:23

Let's hope they don't just slap some one-story restaurant space on the developable areas and call it done...

Planned improvements include upgrades to common areas and amenities, as well as adding new retail space and restaurants.


Let's take note of whats already been done. They upgraded the exterior lights to LED but don't appear to have made it possible to animate them. Also didn't the previous owner already redo the gym and lights in the common areas?

This seems like a tower that has had trouble finding its goal posts. It's still in a transitional spot and it has more going for it than many other older properties around Downtown. Access to a full-service grocery Kroger store, Target, LA Fitness signature. It's not a high-end area but those newish apartments are charging Uptown prices. It seems like with the right investment City Place tower could see quite the uptick in leasing for sure. I wonder why every owner skips on the development on the grounds?

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Re: Cityplace East: 2711 N. Haskell

Postby Tnexster » 17 Aug 2018 09:19

Is there a disconnect being across the freeway from most of Cityplace. Not that I am an advocate of another park deck but the Cityplace area strikes me as a decent location for that kind of park bridge to reconnect west side to east side.

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Re: Cityplace East: 2711 N. Haskell

Postby lakewoodhobo » 17 Aug 2018 09:51

Tnexster wrote:Is there a disconnect being across the freeway from most of Cityplace. Not that I am an advocate of another park deck but the Cityplace area strikes me as a decent location for that kind of park bridge to reconnect west side to east side.


I think the only disconnect is that there's nothing "cool" to do on that side. All of Uptown is willing to shop there and work out there, but where is the chef-driven restaurant or the kombucha on tap?

If Eataly and The Central ever get started, that might all start to change. Maybe all that Cityplace Tower needs on the periphery is low-density retail.

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Re: Cityplace East: 2711 N. Haskell

Postby Cbdallas » 17 Aug 2018 09:53

A big help would be to match the sidewalks and landscaping on that side with what you see in Uptown. That is the disconnect as you cross over central you immediately notice that you have left uptown.

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Re: Cityplace East: 2711 N. Haskell

Postby Hannibal Lecter » 17 Aug 2018 12:50

Cbdallas wrote:That is the disconnect as you cross over central you immediately notice that you have left uptown.


OK, but is there a downside? :D

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Re: Cityplace East: 2711 N. Haskell

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 17 Aug 2018 16:35

It is that area caught between Deep Ellum, Downtown, Uptown and Baylor/East Dallas and Henderson so despite having a major icon of a tower with a recognizable name its lost with no identity of place. Its a pass through with neighborhood service businesses that any of those other areas would love to have closer access to if they had the chance. Its just has nothing that endears people to belong to it and wants more from it. So what we get is owner after owner of Cityplace who wants to invest to make their property worth more but still won't commit to doing more than changing out light bulbs and mowing the grass.


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