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Postby Tnexster » 13 Aug 2018 16:52

Where did Trinity Flooring go?

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Postby Dettmann1 » 13 Aug 2018 19:53

I can't remember where I saw them, but at one point plans for apartments were submitted for that site. I think it was a UDPRP submittal for review and discussion, but I can't find them now. Basically is was a 4 story building taking most of the lot. Looked decent from what I remember.

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 14 Aug 2018 08:48

The rooftop of whatever is built there would have a beautiful view of the skyline that's for sure. If they didn't do a rooftop pool with views of the skyline they would be leaving money on the table. The levees wouldn't be a bad area for people to walk their dogs either. I am hoping this little grid of streets does fill up with some urban housing. Its a tight little area between Methodist and I-30 so it could be a great micro-neighborhood. I just hope some retail space shows up along Beckley that wakes it up a little more. It could be a nice little stretch of restaurant/retail/neighborhood service with some good energy if the right spaces are built on the east side into new buildings and the west side sees some turnover. I wouldn't hate there being some townhomes though and not just Dallas apartment donuts.

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Postby lakewoodhobo » 15 Aug 2018 15:05

Just to the north of this area, Dallas County is unloading 2.9 acres of land, an L-shaped property adjacent to the McDermott bridge.

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And just to the south of the block being cleared now is a good-size parcel owned by Dallas County Schools, or rather the DCS dissolution committee, that will no doubt go on the market soon.

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Now that construction of Beckley and W Commerce is done, this stretch of Oak Cliff might get some more attention from developers.
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Postby Tnexster » 15 Aug 2018 16:06

Great info, thanks for sharing. Now if the city could just get those pedestrian bridges finished.

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Re: Oak Cliff Progressing

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 15 Aug 2018 17:26

The sidewalks need connection on this stretch; especially on some of those little streets. Some don't even Have sidewalks.

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 16 Aug 2018 10:22

Sadly developers will come in build up and be gone before the city even thinks about making the area urban/pedestrian oriented.

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Postby lakewoodhobo » 10 Oct 2018 17:42

Cienda Partners Jumps the River
https://www.dmagazine.com/publications/ ... the-river/

Cienda will be focusing on the northern 36 acres in the near-term, and has already enlisted the Office of James Burnett (of Klyde Warren Park and the upcoming deck park by the zoo) and David M. Schwarz Architects (of Dallas’ West Village, Fort Worth’s Sundance Square, and Southlake Town Square) to help in the planning of the development.

The first phase of development, which could get underway around the second quarter of 2019, will likely include two multifamily projects, an office building, a hotel, ground-floor retail, and a public square. Cienda hasn’t yet selected a developer, but says it will finalize that after the equity raise.

“We’ve been talking to top-tier developers,” Hancock says. “They’re all in and they just want to know when they can go.” He says Cienda is “fairly close” to selecting one or two joint venture partners to develop Oak Farms’ first phase.

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Re: Oak Cliff Progressing

Postby Tnexster » 10 Oct 2018 21:26

Nice, been waiting to see what would happen to the Oak Farms property. Hope they show us some plans soon.

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Postby DPatel304 » 11 Oct 2018 00:40

The first phase of development, which could get underway around the second quarter of 2019, will likely include two multifamily projects, an office building, a hotel, ground-floor retail, and a public square. Cienda hasn’t yet selected a developer, but says it will finalize that after the equity raise.


That's an incredible start for the 'first phase'. I'm glad these developers see the potential here, and I'm looking forward to hearing more on this one.

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Re: Oak Cliff Progressing

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 11 Oct 2018 12:26

IF it ever actually starts.

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Re: Oak Cliff Progressing

Postby tanzoak » 12 Oct 2018 09:37

cowboyeagle05 wrote:Sadly developers will come in build up and be gone before the city even thinks about making the area urban/pedestrian oriented.


The one decent outcome of our stupid development process out here in the Bay Area is that the city makes improving the adjacent pedestrian infrastructure a condition of approval. So all new developments have complete sidewalks and curb ramps with truncated domes (and directional instead of diagonal if it’s on a busy street).

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Re: Oak Cliff Progressing

Postby tamtagon » 12 Oct 2018 09:55

The recent rendering of Harwood Dallas' pending hotel project showed nice creative architecture. But this land really needs to become something interesting to look at from a Downtown highrise.

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Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 12 Oct 2018 10:32

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tamtagon wrote:The recent rendering of Harwood Dallas' pending hotel project showed nice creative architecture. But this land really needs to become something interesting to look at from a Downtown highrise.


That's exactly what this area doesn't need. No flashy buildings or LEDs or glass boxes. Not here. Plus it would be awkward as hell, there's section 8 housing across the street on Colorado and Marsalis.

What you need is just solid urban design.

Something akin to South Street in Philly would be nice. This type of design would fit nicely with the Lake Cliff Tower condos nearby.
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Postby tamtagon » 12 Oct 2018 11:33

Tivo_Kenevil wrote::evil:
tamtagon wrote:The recent rendering of Harwood Dallas' pending hotel project showed nice creative architecture. But this land really needs to become something interesting to look at from a Downtown highrise.


That's exactly what this area doesn't need. No flashy buildings or LEDs or glass boxes. Not here. Plus it would be awkward as hell, there's section 8 housing across the street on Colorado and Marsalis.

What you need is just solid urban design.


I said interesting, not necessarily a gleaming glass box all tarted up with year 'round holiday lights.... I wouldn't necessarily try to recreate the past either. Specifically what's interesting to me -- and might even go so far as to have municipal guidelines -- self sustaining "green" highrises within the strong solid urban design, intensely pedestrian oriented.

Things from the past to resurrect are entirely weather related. Look at the original downtown street grid. The angle is on purpose with south facing corners so the building heat less in the summer and warm better in the winter.... combine that with vertical gardens, roof top lawns, solar and wind electricity generation....

googling green sustainable architecture, these images are kinda what I had in mind:
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Re: Oak Cliff Progressing

Postby Matt777 » 12 Oct 2018 13:09

Imagine some of those designs that incorporate greenery, but with old style brick and old age detailing. Now that would be something fresh and unique! A mix of new and old.

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Postby lakewoodhobo » 07 Dec 2018 11:25

It took an unusually long time to confirm this, but 24 Hr Fitness is now official near Hampton and Ft Worth Ave.

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Re: Oak Cliff Progressing

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 13 Jan 2019 18:42

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:Unsure where to post... Technically it's oak Cliff so I'll place here.

.. The Trinity Flooring and Tile buildings off Beckley and 30 have been demolished. These were situated right along Beckley with direct access to the Trinity river levee. There's been a sign for a carwash place there since 2015 that says coming soon.

I hope we're not placing a car wash there. This location would be great for some mid rise residential buildings. Such a great location.

Anyone know what this is about!?!?



This is a follow-up on the project on Beckley and 30. As the forum indicated, the project is being done by flournoy development from Colombus, OH. The project is moving along they're digging up the lot. Here's some info I dug up myself..

The project will be called Skyline Trinity Apartments
http://www.flournoycompanies.com/DevCurrent.asp

Here's the only picture I could find for the project by investment partners.

https://www.minravdev.com/dallas-texas-skyline-2/

Looks like it will be 4 stories as suggested by the forum. There's no details indicating if there will be retail. That would be nice if they did.
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Re: Oak Cliff Progressing

Postby DPatel304 » 14 Jan 2019 15:12

Great find, thanks for the information! I look forward to the added number of residential units along the Trinity River.

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Postby lakewoodhobo » 17 Jan 2019 13:42

A land swap at Oak Cliff Founders Park that will result in a 7-story mixed-use development with underground parking at Marsalis and Colorado
https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/comm ... opment?444

WindMass wants much more than a two-story, 65-unit complex. Their plans have made the rounds at community meetings since summer but were officially unveiled at City Hall at last week's Park Board meeting. They show a sprawling seven-story, 88-foot-tall, 223-unit with ground-level retail and underground parking. This would go at the corner of Marsalis and Colorado Boulevard, which is currently part of the park — sort of its entrance. There's parking there — 23 spots. Also, a lot of grass and many trees.

WindMass says it could build something similar, by right, on the Founders Square spot. It would be even taller. It would have even more units. But there's no guarantee of a parking garage. And such a place would have no first-floor shops and restaurants.

WindMass wants the city to swap its existing site for the corner lot. The company says it's a straight-up exchange: 1.37 acres for 1.37 acres. But state law says a park land transaction of this size has to be approved by voters. Hence the hustle to get the measure on the ballot, much to the displeasure of a few City Council members who wondered Monday why the rush.

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Postby lakewoodhobo » 24 Jan 2019 09:31

New apartment project set for busy North Oak Cliff corner
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... iff-corner

Dallas builder Larkspur Capital is planning the 41-unit Zang Flats building, which replace an old retail site.
"The 4-level building will stand out from other multifamily projects getting built, I think, because of the unique architecture that we believe accurately references the historic 1920s-era buildings found in North Oak Cliff," Larkspur's Carl Anderson said. "The roof will have similar green shingles (a nod to Mr. Zang's original office across the street), colored glazed tiles will adorn the ground level, and similar scratch-faced brick and cast stone elements will be used.

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I had to look at this several times to decide if I like it, but I really like that they went with a historically sensitive design. I wish the windows weren't so small in that middle section, and I hope the brick looks lighter and less beige in real life.

Another interesting amenity is the first-in-Dallas car share service.

"It will also have, what we believe, the first dedicated share car program for an apartment building in Dallas," Anderson said. "We've partnered with a company in California that has agreed to open the Dallas market and make Zang Flats its first building.

"The share car will be reserved for residents, who can access the program through a smartphone app," he said. "The resident must return the car to the building when they're finished using it.
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Postby Matt777 » 24 Jan 2019 11:18

That will fit in really nicely with the area, and replace a dilapidated old junk building. Very nice. I agree with the middle windows being too small, though. Using a couple of the larger 3-section windows there would improve the aesthetics a lot.

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Postby tamtagon » 24 Jan 2019 11:33

Look at dusty old Oak Cliff, leap-frogging into the Austin-Tech touting modern times!

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Postby dfwcre8tive » 24 Jan 2019 11:37

Matt777 wrote:That will fit in really nicely with the area, and replace a dilapidated old junk building. Very nice. I agree with the middle windows being too small, though. Using a couple of the larger 3-section windows there would improve the aesthetics a lot.


Agree about the size of the windows. The lot is surrounded by the Lake Cliff Historic District and while they could have gone more modern on the design I like the references to nearby architecture. It's not out of place with neighboring homes.

It would be nice if this spurs similar development on the adjacent triangular lots. Maybe an Art Deco reference to the Humble Oil Service station that was demolished for retail (which never materialized)?

Current Site: https://goo.gl/maps/s99xdrxLNe32

Lake Cliff Historic District: https://dallascityhall.com/departments/ ... cliff.aspx

Humble Oil Service Station: http://www.unvisiteddallas.com/archives/2516

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Re: Oak Cliff Progressing

Postby ericthegardener » 21 Mar 2019 14:53

Excited about this one. Pictures of the food look great!

https://oakcliff.advocatemag.com/2019/0 ... ning-soon/

A new restaurant, Vegan Food House, is very close to opening on West Seventh Street near Tyler Street.

“The food concept is a little more French, a little New Orleans-inspired,” she says. “We would like to do quiche every day.”

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Postby Tnexster » 21 Mar 2019 21:28

That cinnamon toll french toast looks delicious.

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Postby lakewoodhobo » 09 May 2019 11:29

Dallas' upscale Royal Blue Grocery puts Oak Cliff on its shopping list
http://dallas.culturemap.com/news/resta ... oak-cliff/

The Austin-born supermarket chain has applied for a permit from the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission for a store to open at 634 W. Davis St., in the space previously occupied by Bolsa Mercado, which closed in August 2017.

Royal Blue owner Zac Porter says it's still early in the process and that there are hurdles to be crossed with the city, but that he's always been a big fan of Oak Cliff.


Glad to see this moving forward and especially happy to see activity west of the Bishop Arts area. That new restaurant on the site of the original Gloria's looks to be done and I'm surprised there hasn't been a lease announced.

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 09 May 2019 13:25

Interesting I would have assumed the Royal Blue team would prefer to be in the new Bishop Arts Village development rather than the middle of Davis which still has a lot to prove. Guess they feel safe not being in bigger newer digs and going instead after locals deep in the heart of Bishop Arts adjacent.

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Postby lakewoodhobo » 14 May 2019 11:08

Looks like the long-dormant Davis Street Market (W Davis between Vernon and Van Buren) might be coming back to life. On this week's CPC agenda there's a request by the owner to terminate deed restrictions on the north side of the property in order to develop the site.

It doesn't seem like the property has new ownership so I'm not counting on work to start anytime soon, but this is encouraging nonetheless.

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Postby lakewoodhobo » 08 Jul 2019 12:45

Not completely unexpected, but Firebird is moving ahead with plans to redevelop the site currently occupied by El Fenix and the Polar Bear Ashburn's store. Years ago it was rumored that Sprouts was interested, but it looks like the buildings are coming down for apartments.

See page 72 here: https://dallascityhall.com/government/m ... ssion.aspx

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Postby ericthegardener » 08 Jul 2019 13:28

Nuts! I don't mind those buildings coming down for something we need (grocery store), but more apartments? Sigh.

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Postby Matt777 » 08 Jul 2019 13:46

Hopefully it will be at least 10 stories and have ground level retail and patios. That's a great spot facing Lake Cliff Park, and right on the streetcar line. Something high to take advantage of the views would be the best use.

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Postby Dettmann1 » 09 Jul 2019 06:16

lakewoodhobo wrote:Not completely unexpected, but Firebird is moving ahead with plans to redevelop the site currently occupied by El Fenix and the Polar Bear Ashburn's store. Years ago it was rumored that Sprouts was interested, but it looks like the buildings are coming down for apartments.

See page 72 here: https://dallascityhall.com/government/m ... ssion.aspx

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Still hoping we see a grocery here, the app didn't seem to be very specific on what will go here. Sprouts has done some urban locations in the past that had them on the ground floor of an apartment building (there is a good example of one in Atlanta along Piedmont Road). Whoever builds the first decent grocery store in this area is going to kill it.

The agenda also had the townhome plat adjacent to Novel Bishop Arts on it as well. I'm excited to see that move forward as well. It's amazing how much is under construction along Zang.

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Postby lakewoodhobo » 09 Jul 2019 11:59

Dettmann1 wrote:Still hoping we see a grocery here, the app didn't seem to be very specific on what will go here. Sprouts has done some urban locations in the past that had them on the ground floor of an apartment building (there is a good example of one in Atlanta along Piedmont Road). Whoever builds the first decent grocery store in this area is going to kill it.

The agenda also had the townhome plat adjacent to Novel Bishop Arts on it as well. I'm excited to see that move forward as well. It's amazing how much is under construction along Zang.


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I would be all for something like this, but something tells me the application would've mentioned retail, so I'm not holding my breath for mixed-use.

One thing I'm hopeful for is that by referencing the project as "Lake Cliff Park MF" that it takes cues from the Charles Mangold buildings and signage that used to line the amusement park, particularly the old Casino. Maybe they could even reproduce the igloo facade from the Polar Bear.

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Postby lakewoodhobo » 07 Aug 2019 07:20

Landmark Oak Cliff tower gets new owner with plans for major redo
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... major-redo

The mid-century modern high-rise was just purchased by Dallas' Westmount Realty Capital, which plans to remodel the landmark building.

"We are going to invest millions of dollars to completely upgrade everything about this building," said Clifford Booth, CEO of Westmount. "It's going to be unrecognizable when we are finished."

"We are going after the millennial demographic," Booth said.

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I love this building and its midcentury vibe. Torn about this news though because it's one of the few affordable multifamily properties left in North Oak Cliff and no doubt this will price everyone out. A necessary evil in the name of preservation, I suppose.
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Postby Tnexster » 07 Aug 2019 11:40

I am curious about that, are they forcing everyone out at once by terminating leases or are they doing this one floor at a time and are just hoping people get the picture and leave on their own before they get booted. Sad but am happy this tower is being saved.

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Postby exelone31 » 03 Sep 2019 15:52

https://www.dallasobserver.com/restaurants/two-restaurants-coming-to-the-belmont-in-dallas-11743444

The Belmont Hotel has provided stunning views of the Dallas skyline since 1946. This West Dallas spot has stood on Fort Worth Avenue while the area around it develops, bringing in newer businesses that draw visitors but also gradually block those picturesque views.

And come the start of 2020, it should have two new places to eat.

Josh Harmon, the chef of the Butler's Cabinet in Fort Worth (and former chef of Junction Craft Kitchen in Deep Ellum) is now working on two establishments in the iconic hotel.


Great news. I was honestly a bit worried that The Belmont may not be long for this world after Smoke closed. Sounds like there are plans afoot, whew!

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Postby eburress » 03 Sep 2019 23:41

^^ Me too! This is wonderful news. Whatever happened to Smoke, by the way? It was sooo good at first but the quality went to isht. Either way, thank goodness the Belmont is sticking around!

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Postby Jasimm » 04 Sep 2019 11:07

The Belmont Hotel Will Get a New Restaurant and Coffee Shop

https://www.dmagazine.com/food-drink/20 ... ffee-shop/
In late 2019 or early 2020, we can expect the Belmont Hotel to reopen in a new guise. Part of that will include a second version of Butler’s Cabinet (Coyle Cafe by BC), which will be more like the original menu: “Really fun, peculiar sandwiches,” Harmon says. And drinks like the one with fig syrup, spices, and condensed milk or a sweet-potato latte with Apple Jacks cereal-milk. (You know, cereal milk.) You can expect more on this later. Coyle Cafe will essentially double as room service (breakfast and lunch) for the hotel, which will be, “sort of lush,” according to Harmon.

This is where we tease the fact that the remodel will also include a new restaurant in the space formerly occupied by Smoke. Harmon is doing that, too. They had to cut the smoker out of the restaurant and will be forced to demo the rest as the smoke damage was so bad. But that is behind them. And this is where it gets interesting.

“The menu is really based on old food,” Harmon says, of the place they will call The Dallas Room, after its original name. What he means by this is that it will offer a plunge, a la Harmon, into the days of old-fashioned dining. He was reading, scouring the menus from grand, classic hotels like the Waldorf Astoria, the Stanley, the Ritz Carlton in New York. Fermentation isn’t merely a current trend.


Rooms will be remodeled, with new, unique furniture in each. They’ve planned to add parking. “They’re gonna rebuild the entrance,” Harmon says, returning to vestiges of the old Belmont’s drive-in circle, which should provide an easy walk-up. “We want it to be accessible.”

Their goal is to resurrect, in a new age, something that has been dormant.

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Postby HarryMoto » 04 Sep 2019 16:46

lakewoodhobo wrote:Landmark Oak Cliff tower gets new owner with plans for major redo
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... major-redo

The mid-century modern high-rise was just purchased by Dallas' Westmount Realty Capital, which plans to remodel the landmark building.

"We are going to invest millions of dollars to completely upgrade everything about this building," said Clifford Booth, CEO of Westmount. "It's going to be unrecognizable when we are finished."

"We are going after the millennial demographic," Booth said.

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I love this building and its midcentury vibe. Torn about this news though because it's one of the few affordable multifamily properties left in North Oak Cliff and no doubt this will price everyone out. A necessary evil in the name of preservation, I suppose.


I love this building, too. It's like a bit of Fountainbleu/Eden Roc, Mid-Beach Miami in Oak Cliff. But hasn't that building had at least three owners in recent years who said they were going to make major changes?

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Postby dallaz » 05 Sep 2019 23:10

I just drove down Jefferson Blvd tonight and it has been awhile. I noticed quite a few of the historical retail buildings have for lease signs on them. I also noticed a strip of buildings that looks completely renovated and it also has for lease signs. The renovated buildings where across from the Jefferson Tower. Does this mean that what’s happening in Bishop Arts is starting to trickle down towards Jefferson?

Edit: These are the renovated buildings I noticed along Jefferson.

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Now: http://dbarealestate.com/properties/324 ... jefferson/
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Postby ericthegardener » 06 Sep 2019 09:08

https://www.dallasnews.com/food/restaurant-news/2019/09/06/trompo-oak-cliffs-celebrated-little-stand-up-taqueria-is-moving-to-a-bright-new-spot-in-bishop-arts/

After three years in a Singleton Avenue location where the main feature is literally a hole in the wall -- where money is exchanged for sublime Monterrey-style street tacos and quesadillas -- Trompo is moving into a bright new spot in Bishop Arts.


Love this place! I make the trek over to Singleton when I can, but I'm glad that, for me at least, it will be a little closer to home.

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Postby lakewoodhobo » 06 Sep 2019 09:33

dallaz wrote:I just drove down Jefferson Blvd tonight and it has been awhile. I noticed quite a few of the historical retail buildings have for lease signs on them. I also noticed a strip of buildings that looks completely renovated and it also has for lease signs. The renovated buildings where across from the Jefferson Tower. Does this mean that what’s happening in Bishop Arts is starting to trickle down towards Jefferson?

Edit: These are the renovated buildings I noticed along Jefferson.

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Now: http://dbarealestate.com/properties/324 ... jefferson/


One of these spaces is where the pinball arcade bar, by the owners of Free Play Arcade, was set to open before plans fell through. It might be a little premature to think Jefferson is getting Bishop Arts-style gentrified though. Case in point: Mesa closed recently and is being replaced with a more casual, less-Beyonce restaurant. Church's Chicken closed a while back and its replacement is a very unassuming place called Tortas Insurgentes.

It'll happen eventually, just likely not in this cycle.

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Re: Oak Cliff Progressing

Postby eburress » 06 Sep 2019 09:49

Jefferson Blvd sure seems to be next up on the gentrification railroad, but yes, perhaps not in this cycle. 10 years from now though I can see it having Bishop Arts-level momentum, especially if the I-35 deck park happens.

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Re: Oak Cliff Progressing

Postby dallaz » 06 Sep 2019 10:17

lakewoodhobo wrote:
dallaz wrote:I just drove down Jefferson Blvd tonight and it has been awhile. I noticed quite a few of the historical retail buildings have for lease signs on them. I also noticed a strip of buildings that looks completely renovated and it also has for lease signs. The renovated buildings where across from the Jefferson Tower. Does this mean that what’s happening in Bishop Arts is starting to trickle down towards Jefferson?

Edit: These are the renovated buildings I noticed along Jefferson.

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Now: http://dbarealestate.com/properties/324 ... jefferson/


One of these spaces is where the pinball arcade bar, by the owners of Free Play Arcade, was set to open before plans fell through. It might be a little premature to think Jefferson is getting Bishop Arts-style gentrified though. Case in point: Mesa closed recently and is being replaced with a more casual, less-Beyonce restaurant. Church's Chicken closed a while back and its replacement is a very unassuming place called Tortas Insurgentes.

It'll happen eventually, just likely not in this cycle.
Thanks, much of that I didn’t know.

I grew up in Oak Cliff (South Oak Cliff to be exact) and as a kid I never truly noticed how much potential Jefferson has. When it does gentrify or redevelop, (which seem to be inevitable) I believe it’s going to be greater than Bishop Arts. The vast majority of the original retail district along Jefferson is still there. That’s rare in a city like Dallas that has a reputation for tearing things down. Many of the buildings survived without the help of a landmark district. Obviously, it’s not in the best condition but it has good bones. I can’t think of another large retail district with head in parking and wide sidewalks. Since the area isn’t protected like Bishop Arts...I sure hope a Fiesta-like development doesn’t come in.
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Re: Oak Cliff Progressing

Postby dallaz » 06 Sep 2019 10:19

eburress wrote:Jefferson Blvd sure seems to be next up on the gentrification railroad, but yes, perhaps not in this cycle. 10 years from now though I can see it having Bishop Arts-level momentum, especially if the I-35 deck park happens.

Great point. I forgot about the 35 deck park.

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Re: Oak Cliff Progressing

Postby DPatel304 » 06 Sep 2019 10:43

eburress wrote:especially if the I-35 deck park happens.


Isn't the deck park under construction right now?

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Re: Oak Cliff Progressing

Postby eburress » 06 Sep 2019 10:50

DPatel304 wrote:
eburress wrote:especially if the I-35 deck park happens.


Isn't the deck park under construction right now?


Probably so. I know there's construction happening there, but wasn't sure if it was the deck park and didn't want to get my hopes up! haha

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Re: Oak Cliff Progressing

Postby lakewoodhobo » 06 Sep 2019 11:02

There's also the very real possibility that old plans to replace the North Oak Cliff Branch Library will be thrown in the trash and start over. I read somewhere about a new task force set up to figure out if the new library should include other uses like housing, retail, green space, etc., which will add to the momentum of new construction reaching Jefferson Blvd block by block.

DPatel304 wrote:
eburress wrote:especially if the I-35 deck park happens.


Isn't the deck park under construction right now?


The support structure for the deck park is UC until late 2021, so the earliest that the park can be completed is in late 2022.

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Re: Oak Cliff Progressing

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 06 Sep 2019 12:53

lakewoodhobo wrote:There's also the very real possibility that old plans to replace the North Oak Cliff Branch Library will be thrown in the trash and start over. I read somewhere about a new task force set up to figure out if the new library should include other uses like housing, retail, green space, etc., which will add to the momentum of new construction reaching Jefferson Blvd block by block.


The 21st century Library should be more than just a place for books. I'd like the city to add more computing/ internet resources and other city programs within libraries. The idea of adding housing is certainly, at the very least, interesting


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