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Re: Oak Cliff Progressing

Postby Tnexster » 13 Aug 2018 16:52

Where did Trinity Flooring go?

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Re: Oak Cliff Progressing

Postby Dettmann1 » 13 Aug 2018 19:53

I can't remember where I saw them, but at one point plans for apartments were submitted for that site. I think it was a UDPRP submittal for review and discussion, but I can't find them now. Basically is was a 4 story building taking most of the lot. Looked decent from what I remember.

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Re: Oak Cliff Progressing

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 14 Aug 2018 08:48

The rooftop of whatever is built there would have a beautiful view of the skyline that's for sure. If they didn't do a rooftop pool with views of the skyline they would be leaving money on the table. The levees wouldn't be a bad area for people to walk their dogs either. I am hoping this little grid of streets does fill up with some urban housing. Its a tight little area between Methodist and I-30 so it could be a great micro-neighborhood. I just hope some retail space shows up along Beckley that wakes it up a little more. It could be a nice little stretch of restaurant/retail/neighborhood service with some good energy if the right spaces are built on the east side into new buildings and the west side sees some turnover. I wouldn't hate there being some townhomes though and not just Dallas apartment donuts.

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Re: Oak Cliff Progressing

Postby lakewoodhobo » 15 Aug 2018 15:05

Just to the north of this area, Dallas County is unloading 2.9 acres of land, an L-shaped property adjacent to the McDermott bridge.

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And just to the south of the block being cleared now is a good-size parcel owned by Dallas County Schools, or rather the DCS dissolution committee, that will no doubt go on the market soon.

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Now that construction of Beckley and W Commerce is done, this stretch of Oak Cliff might get some more attention from developers.
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Re: Oak Cliff Progressing

Postby Tnexster » 15 Aug 2018 16:06

Great info, thanks for sharing. Now if the city could just get those pedestrian bridges finished.

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Re: Oak Cliff Progressing

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 15 Aug 2018 17:26

The sidewalks need connection on this stretch; especially on some of those little streets. Some don't even Have sidewalks.

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Re: Oak Cliff Progressing

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 16 Aug 2018 10:22

Sadly developers will come in build up and be gone before the city even thinks about making the area urban/pedestrian oriented.

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Re: Oak Cliff Progressing

Postby lakewoodhobo » 10 Oct 2018 17:42

Cienda Partners Jumps the River
https://www.dmagazine.com/publications/ ... the-river/

Cienda will be focusing on the northern 36 acres in the near-term, and has already enlisted the Office of James Burnett (of Klyde Warren Park and the upcoming deck park by the zoo) and David M. Schwarz Architects (of Dallas’ West Village, Fort Worth’s Sundance Square, and Southlake Town Square) to help in the planning of the development.

The first phase of development, which could get underway around the second quarter of 2019, will likely include two multifamily projects, an office building, a hotel, ground-floor retail, and a public square. Cienda hasn’t yet selected a developer, but says it will finalize that after the equity raise.

“We’ve been talking to top-tier developers,” Hancock says. “They’re all in and they just want to know when they can go.” He says Cienda is “fairly close” to selecting one or two joint venture partners to develop Oak Farms’ first phase.

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Re: Oak Cliff Progressing

Postby Tnexster » 10 Oct 2018 21:26

Nice, been waiting to see what would happen to the Oak Farms property. Hope they show us some plans soon.

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Re: Oak Cliff Progressing

Postby DPatel304 » 11 Oct 2018 00:40

The first phase of development, which could get underway around the second quarter of 2019, will likely include two multifamily projects, an office building, a hotel, ground-floor retail, and a public square. Cienda hasn’t yet selected a developer, but says it will finalize that after the equity raise.


That's an incredible start for the 'first phase'. I'm glad these developers see the potential here, and I'm looking forward to hearing more on this one.

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Re: Oak Cliff Progressing

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 11 Oct 2018 12:26

IF it ever actually starts.

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Re: Oak Cliff Progressing

Postby tanzoak » 12 Oct 2018 09:37

cowboyeagle05 wrote:Sadly developers will come in build up and be gone before the city even thinks about making the area urban/pedestrian oriented.


The one decent outcome of our stupid development process out here in the Bay Area is that the city makes improving the adjacent pedestrian infrastructure a condition of approval. So all new developments have complete sidewalks and curb ramps with truncated domes (and directional instead of diagonal if it’s on a busy street).

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Re: Oak Cliff Progressing

Postby tamtagon » 12 Oct 2018 09:55

The recent rendering of Harwood Dallas' pending hotel project showed nice creative architecture. But this land really needs to become something interesting to look at from a Downtown highrise.

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Re: Oak Cliff Progressing

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 12 Oct 2018 10:32

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tamtagon wrote:The recent rendering of Harwood Dallas' pending hotel project showed nice creative architecture. But this land really needs to become something interesting to look at from a Downtown highrise.


That's exactly what this area doesn't need. No flashy buildings or LEDs or glass boxes. Not here. Plus it would be awkward as hell, there's section 8 housing across the street on Colorado and Marsalis.

What you need is just solid urban design.

Something akin to South Street in Philly would be nice. This type of design would fit nicely with the Lake Cliff Tower condos nearby.
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Re: Oak Cliff Progressing

Postby tamtagon » 12 Oct 2018 11:33

Tivo_Kenevil wrote::evil:
tamtagon wrote:The recent rendering of Harwood Dallas' pending hotel project showed nice creative architecture. But this land really needs to become something interesting to look at from a Downtown highrise.


That's exactly what this area doesn't need. No flashy buildings or LEDs or glass boxes. Not here. Plus it would be awkward as hell, there's section 8 housing across the street on Colorado and Marsalis.

What you need is just solid urban design.


I said interesting, not necessarily a gleaming glass box all tarted up with year 'round holiday lights.... I wouldn't necessarily try to recreate the past either. Specifically what's interesting to me -- and might even go so far as to have municipal guidelines -- self sustaining "green" highrises within the strong solid urban design, intensely pedestrian oriented.

Things from the past to resurrect are entirely weather related. Look at the original downtown street grid. The angle is on purpose with south facing corners so the building heat less in the summer and warm better in the winter.... combine that with vertical gardens, roof top lawns, solar and wind electricity generation....

googling green sustainable architecture, these images are kinda what I had in mind:
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Re: Oak Cliff Progressing

Postby Matt777 » 12 Oct 2018 13:09

Imagine some of those designs that incorporate greenery, but with old style brick and old age detailing. Now that would be something fresh and unique! A mix of new and old.


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