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Downtown Dallas: Dallas High School

Postby Tnexster » 23 Mar 2017 16:09

Landmark downtown Dallas school will house co-working office center

http://www.dallasnews.com/business/real ... ice-center

An old-school downtown Dallas real estate development will be home to a new-generation business hub.

Dallas-based co-working space operator Foundry Club will locate a collaborative office center in the historic Dallas High School building at Pearl and Bryan streets.

The 107-year-old former school building on the east side of downtown is being converted into offices by developer Matthews Southwest.

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Postby dukemeredith » 23 Mar 2017 18:44

That's great news that only the top floor remains to be leased.

I wonder when it'll be complete. If only Steve would tell us...

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Postby joshua.dodd » 24 Mar 2017 05:10

Ah yes, the old Crozier Tech. My grandfather went to school there in the 1950s. Good to see it coming back to life.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Dallas High School

Postby kingpin » 04 Jun 2017 21:14

6/4/17

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Postby DPatel304 » 30 Sep 2017 03:41

Thanks for the picture updates. I had actually forgotten about this project, even though it was something I was originally looking forward to.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Dallas High School

Postby LBK2013 » 05 Dec 2017 16:40

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... igh-school

The first business has relocated into downtown's historic Dallas High School building.
The 110-year-old landmark at Bryan and Pearl streets during the last two years has been restored and converted into office and retail space.
The Dallas office of architect Perkins+Will has moved into almost 40,000 square feet of space on the second and third floors of the building.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Dallas High School

Postby R1070 » 05 Dec 2017 20:00

I wish this project would have included apartments around the building. The HUGE surface lot wrapping around the building looks AWFUL!

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Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 05 Dec 2017 21:51

R1070 wrote:I wish this project would have included apartments around the building. The HUGE surface lot wrapping around the building looks AWFUL!


My exact thought. At first I thought the parking was going to be surrounded by the brick wall.. but nope. Just another big ass parking lot.. you would think that having the Dart station literally at your door steps would impulse Matthews to try to at least do something else with that piece of land. But nope.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Dallas High School

Postby eburress » 05 Dec 2017 23:57

Wow, really? I thought the open area was going to become apartments. Lame!

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Postby DPatel304 » 06 Dec 2017 00:49

Aren't the plans for a Phase 2, which would eliminate most (all?) of the surface lot:
At today's panel review, there was more talk about Phase 2 -- three planned offices, a hotel and a parking structure -- than what Matthews has planned for the high school. The panel hopes it becomes a true transit-oriented development, a gathering space connecting DART's Pearl/Arts District Station, the Arts District and the coming Carpenter Park. That, says Matthews, is the plan.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/dallas- ... l-downtown

Granted this is an old article (Nov 2015), but I haven't heard anything about this being changed.

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Postby willyk » 06 Dec 2017 03:32

The new development will sit on the new Carpenter Park.

http://parksfordowntowndallas.org/carpenter-park/

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 06 Dec 2017 08:58

The other problem is the Live Oak exit ramp. Matthews Southwest planned to design further phases without the ramp since the city and TXDOT had agreed that the ramp was hindering development, dangerous and a safety issue, traffic problem etc. Last month the council voted on a resolution to support its removal but at the last minute TXDOT forced the city to change the language in the resolution to stuff like maybe one day if the stars align we could possibly maybe shutter the live oak ramp. Keep in mind the city can not shut the ramp down but the resolution would have been a directive to city staff to work with TXDOT on its speedy removal when funds could be allocated. There are public records showing that TXDOT supports removing the ramp and planned to remove it sooner than later but all of a sudden TXDOT got cold feet.

Last I heard Matthews Southwest had to return to the drawing board to redesign the 2nd/3rd phases because he just doesn't know when the ramp would be removed and its changes the access points and overall land available. If you notice in the plans above a parking garage would sit on land currently occupied by the ramp. To be realistic though Matthews Southwest long told the city, council and the press this project would be done in phases. Would he love to build in more density now sure. Its really in his best interest to wait for the ramp removal so he can have prime access to Carpenter Park and safer two way Live Oak complete street finished with construction.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Dallas High School

Postby tamtagon » 06 Dec 2017 09:09

That whole I-345 access road deal is a disaster. I'm mostly in favor of replacing I-345 with a boulevard hybrid, but whether or not the limited access lanes remain, it's mostly the access roads that throwing the city into chaos with the numerous piers for the elevated highway coming in second.

I like the separation created by an elevated highway, clearly marking Downtown and East Dallas/Deep Ellum, and I would probably like the effect should surface street underpasses come back as part of an I-345 boulevard hybrid.... Spire and Crozier Tech real estate should remain idle until I-345 is fixed.

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Postby lakewoodhobo » 27 Dec 2017 12:45

This one looks about finished. Photo credit: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dallasraw/?fref=nf

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Postby exelone31 » 27 Dec 2017 12:49

^ So awesome! Love the restoration of this building, and hopefully the grounds get spruced up a bit out front as the tenants fill it.

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Postby DPatel304 » 27 Dec 2017 12:59

Excellent. For a lot of people, this building might be the first (and maybe even only) impression they get of Downtown, so I'm really glad to see someone made us of the building. I feel like there's a decent amount of people who only see Downtown when they are riding the DART on the way to the fair (or any other event at Fair Park), and, if you're coming in from the north on the Red Line, then this particular station is all you're about to see, and it doesn't give off a great impression of the city.

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Postby eburress » 27 Dec 2017 13:29

exelone31 wrote:^ So awesome! Love the restoration of this building, and hopefully the grounds get spruced up a bit out front as the tenants fill it.


Man, that's an understatement...I sure hope they're not done with the exterior work. Turn the lights off inside and this looks like a haunted house or a scene from a zombie apocalypse.

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Postby lakewoodhobo » 16 Jan 2018 12:12

Apartment tower in the works for downtown's historic Dallas High School project
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... ol-project

Now Matthews and his partners are working on a plans to build a high-rise apartment that would include homes for moderate and low-income residents.

The 14 to 15-story building at 2400 Bryan will have 230 apartments - 110 of which are reserved for residents earning between 30 and 60 percent of the area's median household income, according to filings with Dallas' office of economic development.

"The project also includes approximately 400 parking garage spaces and 10,000 square feet of retail," the economic development filing says. "The project will break ground in early 2019."

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Postby DPatel304 » 16 Jan 2018 12:20

Looks good to me! That's a surprisingly high amount of affordable apartment units. Is that possibly because this building is basically on the edge of the CBD and is sorta 'tucked away'?

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Dallas High School

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 16 Jan 2018 16:24

Hopefully the design meshes w the school

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Postby ContriveDallasite » 17 Jan 2018 01:40

DPatel304 wrote:Looks good to me! That's a surprisingly high amount of affordable apartment units. Is that possibly because this building is basically on the edge of the CBD and is sorta 'tucked away'?


Could also be due to the fact that it's also bordering a freeway. Regardless, quality affordable options in downtown are always a positive. This is the kind of density we need as a city.

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Postby lakewoodhobo » 17 Jan 2018 11:15

This one will be a great complement to The Gabriella (Greystar/Tom Thumb) across from 345. Not to say there are any bad places for affordable housing, but the walking distance to rail and bus transit, and soon a grocery store, makes it ideal for people who don't have or want a car.

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Postby jsoto3 » 22 Jan 2018 13:11

Some plans and renderings are visible in the photos posted in this tweet by the Dallas Planning & Urban Design department from a presentation by Perkins+Will to the Urban Design Peer Review Panel:

https://twitter.com/DallasPlanUD/status ... 52/photo/1

Watch for the full presentation to be posted here:
http://dallascityhall.com/departments/p ... nutes.aspx

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Postby jsoto3 » 13 Feb 2018 21:39

^^ The presentation has been posted:
http://dallascityhall.com/departments/p ... mittal.pdf

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Dallas High School

Postby R1070 » 15 Feb 2018 20:14

The amount of surface parking is still unfortunate.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Dallas High School

Postby dch526 » 16 Feb 2018 10:23

R1070 wrote:The amount of surface parking is still unfortunate.


Originally that larger surface lot was planned to have a hotel and office building taking up most of it. May still be part of a future phase.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Dallas High School

Postby tamtagon » 16 Feb 2018 10:55

I wonder if Matthews is in talks to buy some of that Spire real estate goldmine.

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Postby jrd1964 » 16 Feb 2018 13:53

It really looks nice all lit up and occupied at night now... beats the heck out of abandoned-looking pigeon fodder. Hopefully they will have the other phase(s) to go with it.

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 17 Feb 2018 15:57

Some of what Matthews has planned relies on what happens to the Live Oak exit ramp and the future Carpenter Park. Once the ramp is removed some street frontage will be better facing south towards a completed larger Carpenters Park.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Dallas High School

Postby Cord1936 » 23 Mar 2018 11:09

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Take a sneak peek at the apartment high-rise planned next to the historic Dallas High School
by Steve Brown, Dallas Morning News, 03-22-18

Developer Matthews Southwest has given a first look at the apartment community it hopes to build next door to the historic downtown Dallas High School.

Matthews Southwest just completed a $50 million restoration of the 1907 school at Pearl and Bryan streets.

Now developer Jack Matthews and his partners are working on a high-rise apartment project on the same block that would include rental units for moderate and low-income residents.

The 15-story building at 2400 Bryan is planned for about 230 apartments — more than 100 of which are reserved for residents earning between 30 and 60 percent of the area's median household income.

A parking garage and almost 10,000 square feet of retail are also planned for the triangular shaped building, which overlooks the U.S. Highway 75 overpass on the eastern edge of downtown Dallas.
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Matthews Southwest has also left a site for a future office building in its plans.
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Article: https://www.dallasnews.com/business/real-estate/2018/03/22/sneak-peak-apartment-high-rise-planned-next-historic-dallas-high-school

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Dallas High School

Postby muncien » 23 Mar 2018 13:11

Whoa.... That is much more impressive than I would have expected. It would be great to see something like this come to fruition. New tower, Residential, Inside the Loop, Affordable Units = Unheard of.
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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 23 Mar 2018 13:20

I still wonder what they are expecting out of the retail space they are building at ground level. Do they expect a Jimmy Johns type operation or a real sit down place? Maybe something less dependent on walk ups even a hair salon could work since people are always googling for services like a haircut.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Dallas High School

Postby Tnexster » 27 Jul 2018 12:09

State approves tax credits for downtown Dallas apartment tower

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... ment-tower

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Postby muncien » 27 Jul 2018 13:45

It would be nice if they extended the DART Transit Promenade setup along this development. I realize there is nothing on the other side worth walking to at this time, but it seems like the best way to manage the rail ROW. If we end up with an iron fence or 'chain-link', it'll look quite awful.
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Re: Downtown Dallas: Dallas High School

Postby Tnexster » 27 Jul 2018 14:22

So yet another high rise going up right next to 345.


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