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DTD: Farmer's Market 1.0

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Re: DTD: Farmer's Market 1.0

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 13 Jun 2018 08:47

There is a thread for the East Quarter and the Masonic Temple but there is no update. http://dfwu.dallasmetropolis.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=507

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Re: DTD: Farmer's Market 1.0

Postby DPatel304 » 14 Jun 2018 20:11

On Friday, June 8, DDI and the City of Dallas hosted the Marilla to Market Walk, in which over 85 participants walked Marilla Street between City Hall and the Dallas Farmers Market, denoting needed improvements in a short survey. This input will inform the #MarillaMakeover project, a temporary and tactical implementation of strategies that will enhance the pedestrian experience along the Marilla Street corridor. From September 1 to December 31, the #MarillaMakeover project will improve the functionality of the street and increase safety by installing improved crosswalks at key intersections and potted and/or planted street trees along the corridor. DDI will also host seasonal and themed events throughout the fall to further activate the vacant and/or underutilized spaces along Marilla Street.

For those unable to attend the Marilla to Market Walk – and would like to provide ideas for the Marilla Street corridor – please visit bit.ly/marillamarket.

https://www.facebook.com/DtownDallasInc ... 3711081026

The Downtown Dallas Inc. Facebook page posted this. It's not exactly Farmer's Market related, but it does talk about Marilla Street from City Hall to the Farmer's Market and improvements that could be made there. It was just a simple survey, so obviously nothing will actually change anytime soon, but I guess it's nice that they are looking for improvement areas.

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Re: DTD: Farmer's Market 1.0

Postby exelone31 » 15 Jun 2018 08:37

It does sound like they're at least committing to some short-term beautification enhancements (potted plants, etc). I think even that would make a positive impact. It's cool to see stuff like this done while the larger changes are churned through the gears of bureaucracy.

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Re: DTD: Farmer's Market 1.0

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 15 Jun 2018 09:25

It's not a street that will majorly activate until some more major development happens but having officials actually walk the street is a big deal. Most of these projects never include a walk by anyone but a lower level staff member. Having more them walk these streets provides a very important perspective of what safety is. I walk from Downtown Dallas to Oak Lawn frequently and I could recite off the top of my head the most dangerous crossings and places where the sidewalk is basically useless from damage or obstruction. I wish more similar walks were a part of a public official's duties for projects. Studies show that when they are done the pedestrian environment is infinitely improved in more than just one area.

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Re: DTD: Farmer's Market 1.0

Postby mdg109 » 03 Jul 2018 13:06

I hope FM gets more retail that stays open a little later once more residential gets completed. Stopped by yesterday evening and it's really quiet in this area. Was happy to see that Green Door Pub was pretty lively though.

From the photos, crazy how close The Bridge is to downtown now. It used to seem so isolated.
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Re: DTD: Farmer's Market 1.0

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 03 Jul 2018 13:18

How much store front does the furniture store take up? Cause one big tenant like that could work against them. A furniture store while a draw is also what kept most of Downtown Garland dead too. Bakers Furniture sat for years within their downtown and didn't create lively activity. It suffered from a lack of energy and real marketing effort on the business part but it also took up almost all the storefronts like Mattress Frim does on Henderson and Knox creating a dead zone that didn't allow for a variety of businesses that create interest for visitors.

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Re: DTD: Farmer's Market 1.0

Postby mdg109 » 03 Jul 2018 13:28

On the Taylor Street side, I saw signs for a floral shop coming in on the far corner, and I believe there's was retail available for one more vendor. On the Pearl Street side, I think there's a Thai place and 2-3 more retail spaces.

The development facing Marilla has a ton of retail space.

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Re: DTD: Farmer's Market 1.0

Postby Matt777 » 03 Jul 2018 16:31

mdg109 wrote:On the Pearl Street side, I think there's a Thai place and 2-3 more retail spaces.

Thai food? At the Farmer's Market? Where????!!!

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Re: DTD: Farmer's Market 1.0

Postby ArtVandelay » 04 Jul 2018 15:09

mdg109 wrote:I hope FM gets more retail that stays open a little later once more residential gets completed. Stopped by yesterday evening and it's really quiet in this area. Was happy to see that Green Door Pub was pretty lively though.

From the photos, crazy how close The Bridge is to downtown now. It used to seem so isolated.


Hopefully further development on Harwood “re-isolates” the Bridge. It’s a blight on the neighborhood. Right up there with the Stewpit.

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Re: DTD: Farmer's Market 1.0

Postby mdg109 » 05 Jul 2018 22:37

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Re: DTD: Farmer's Market 1.0

Postby mdg109 » 02 Sep 2018 16:01

I'm really liking how this building is turning out. It'll be interesting to see what kind of retail goes into the lower level.
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Re: DTD: Farmer's Market 1.0

Postby lakewoodhobo » 18 Sep 2018 16:46

"Amelia at Farmers Market" is progressing quickly and already doing a good job of framing the area with something to look at west of Harwood St. It complements the Harvest Lofts building really well.

https://ameliaatfarmersmarket.com/

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Re: DTD: Farmer's Market 1.0

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 18 Sep 2018 17:07

I wish we could get a nice block of 8-10 mid rise buildings throughout this side of town.

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Re: DTD: Farmer's Market 1.0

Postby mdg109 » 18 Sep 2018 18:46

Nice. I really hope they follow through with the trees.

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Re: DTD: Farmer's Market 1.0

Postby Tnexster » 18 Sep 2018 20:50

Looking good

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Re: DTD: Farmer's Market 1.0

Postby willyk » 18 Sep 2018 22:51

If you remember wind-swept sheds stranded in the middle of a parking desert, seeing the Market surrounded by wall to wall apartments and full of people will raise your expectations of what we can do with other neglected City assets like Fair Park, Heritage Park and theTrinity.

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Re: DTD: Farmer's Market 1.0

Postby ContriveDallasite » 19 Sep 2018 03:19

I am just hoping that developers are also seeing Farmers Market as a retail destination. While it's great we are getting a lot more residents in the area, the actual Farmers Market feels like a faux Market Hall with a very limited actual selection of produce. If places like Rubials and some of the other non "shed" vendors close, the area will become just another neighborhood of Dallas.

But I would absolutely take what we have today over what was there 10 years ago.

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Re: DTD: Farmer's Market 1.0

Postby Thymant » 19 Sep 2018 06:32

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:I wish we could get a nice block of 8-10 mid rise buildings throughout this side of town.


This here I agree with. If you hop over to Oaklawn near Old Parkland you can witness a perfect example of this. it hasn't quite reached 8-10 mark but with the apartments they have built along with new town homes, it has become one of the densest portions of Oaklawn. It actually feels like you are walking through a neighborhood in a large city as numerous Central Dallas neighboorhoods should feel.

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Re: DTD: Farmer's Market 1.0

Postby lakewoodhobo » 20 Sep 2018 08:01

Someone driving the wrong way in a Jeep crashed into the Green Door Public House last night.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/traffic ... still-open

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Re: DTD: Farmer's Market 1.0

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 20 Sep 2018 13:31

Was she drunk? She drove the wrong way down Canton then drove straight through a T intersection into the front doors of Green Door like it was a 4 point intersection.

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Re: DTD: Farmer's Market 1.0

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 20 Sep 2018 13:48

cowboyeagle05 wrote:Was she drunk? She drove the wrong way down Canton then drove straight through a T intersection into the front doors of Green Door like it was a 4 point intersection.

She was intoxicated.

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Re: DTD: Farmer's Market 1.0

Postby ArtVandelay » 21 Sep 2018 05:35

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:I wish we could get a nice block of 8-10 mid rise buildings throughout this side of town.


I’m fairly sure they have to under the Farmers Market PD

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Re: DTD: Farmer's Market 1.0

Postby Tnexster » 21 Sep 2018 11:59

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:I wish we could get a nice block of 8-10 mid rise buildings throughout this side of town.


Isn't that sort of what's happening? I don't know what the PD looks like but everything being built seem to fit that category or close to it.

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Re: DTD: Farmer's Market 1.0

Postby eburress » 21 Sep 2018 12:17

lakewoodhobo wrote:Someone driving the wrong way in a Jeep crashed into the Green Door Public House last night.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/traffic ... still-open


Green Door put some plywood up to seal the hole and is already back open! hahaha

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Re: DTD: Farmer's Market 1.0

Postby mdg109 » 21 Sep 2018 12:29

^That's good to hear!

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Re: DTD: Farmer's Market 1.0

Postby tanzoak » 24 Sep 2018 09:40

ArtVandelay wrote:
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:I wish we could get a nice block of 8-10 mid rise buildings throughout this side of town.


I’m fairly sure they have to under the Farmers Market PD


No, they don't. Zoning basically never requires a minimum density, and this is no different. Developers could build large lot single family homes if they wanted. There's also nothing stopping towers in this area: most of the PD has no unit density or height restrictions and max FAR of 20. What's being built is just a product of the level of demand in the area right now.

Here's the doc if you'd like to see: http://www.dallascityattorney.com/51P/A ... %20357.pdf
One nice thing is that the parking requirements aren't too bad! Just 1 per 2000 sqft of building, which would be a 0.67 per unit requirement for a building with average 1,000 sq ft units and 75% usable space.

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Re: DTD: Farmer's Market 1.0

Postby ArtVandelay » 26 Sep 2018 06:48

tanzoak wrote:
ArtVandelay wrote:
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:I wish we could get a nice block of 8-10 mid rise buildings throughout this side of town.


I’m fairly sure they have to under the Farmers Market PD


No, they don't. Zoning basically never requires a minimum density, and this is no different. Developers could build large lot single family homes if they wanted. There's also nothing stopping towers in this area: most of the PD has no unit density or height restrictions and max FAR of 20. What's being built is just a product of the level of demand in the area right now.

Here's the doc if you'd like to see: http://www.dallascityattorney.com/51P/A ... %20357.pdf
One nice thing is that the parking requirements aren't too bad! Just 1 per 2000 sqft of building, which would be a 0.67 per unit requirement for a building with average 1,000 sq ft units and 75% usable space.


I replied to the wrong post. I meant to quote the post about the trees one up.


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