Tivo_Kenevil wrote:The garage is a nasty eye sore. Turkish mike if you read this .. shame on you for ignoring the garage design.
ArtVandelay wrote:Marriott website says the hotels are opening May 2018.
I’m going to be surprised if this ever gets finished.
lakewoodhobo wrote:I wish they hadn't painted "BBB" on the top like this. Now everyone will think it stands for Better Business Bureau.
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Cbdallas wrote:What kind of super half off half off special deal did they get for that yellow paint. Ugh.
vman wrote:At first glance, that Motopia sign looks like the BMW logo. And although so much better than what was there before, this development is a major disappointment design-wise.
Tnexster wrote:vman wrote:At first glance, that Motopia sign looks like the BMW logo. And although so much better than what was there before, this development is a major disappointment design-wise.
The owner of Motopia said they changed the name of the restaurant. I already forgot what he told me but it should be open on Monday or Tuesday.
cowboyeagle05 wrote:BBB Cafe is the new name. The motorcycle tie-in out the door. It's simply Butler Brothers Building Cafe. The Motopia sign is coming down since they are no longer tied to the concept of a cafe/motorcycle club.
Let's put it this way there is a reason Alterra/Turkish Mike doesn't propose projects in Dallas anymore. Alterra works mostly in St. Louis now converting historic buildings there into hotels.
jrd1964 wrote:That's funny, the hotel sites I found say May. Whenever they do, hopefully things will go well.
https://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/ ... -downtown/
https://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/ ... -downtown/
Very casual burger bar opens in historic downtown Dallas building
...The building was originally slated to get a concept called Motopia, a unique, Euro-style business that would combine motorcycles with coffee house and lounge. But that was the plan in 2016, and plans change...
...Butler Brothers Bar is a more basic place with burgers, loaded fries, and dishes that can appeal to hotel guests, diners off the street, and kids, says manager Nathan McAnally. They're open daily from 10:30 am to 11 pm...
...The menu includes salads such as Asian chicken and Caesar. Sandwiches include chicken breast, tuna salad, and a club sandwich. Their burger choices include a "country" burger with brown gravy and a fried egg...
But that was the plan in 2016, and plans change...
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:Some Ivy on this building would help make it more appealing. The yellowish stucco is overwhelming.
ContriveDallasite wrote:Tivo_Kenevil wrote:Some Ivy on this building would help make it more appealing. The yellowish stucco is overwhelming.
We've gone over the stucco a thousand times. I'm just glad someone put some makeup on the ugly duckling and activated a critical building next to city hall.
willyk wrote:If the low cost redo translates into more affordable housing, it’s worth it. Do apartments here rent for less than EMC, Victory and Uptown?
willyk wrote:If the low cost redo translates into more affordable housing, it’s worth it. Do apartments here rent for less than EMC, Victory and Uptown?
Matt777 wrote:willyk wrote:If the low cost redo translates into more affordable housing, it’s worth it. Do apartments here rent for less than EMC, Victory and Uptown?
I think it translates into more profitable housing, not more affordable, as long as he can fill the units. I don't know occupancy rates, but they were offering something crazy like 3 months free at one point, and leased out a number of units to a software development training school. The interiors are very well done, but it is a pretty ugly building on the exterior and I can't imagine that renters are knocking down their doors to live there. Combined with it still being the "up and coming" part of downtown near empty parking lots and homeless facilities..... They really needed to knock this one out of the park visually to energize this area and that did not happen on the exterior.
Cbdallas wrote:I am still glad it is there though and someday it will get repainted.
DPatel304 wrote:Cbdallas wrote:I am still glad it is there though and someday it will get repainted.
My thoughts exactly. Considering this part of town doesn't have much going on (even less when this building was first proposed), I feel lucky that we got something like this. Yes it's ugly, but it's not abandoned, and the ugly is not permanent as well.
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