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Victory Park 3.0

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clcrash19
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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby clcrash19 » 08 Jul 2019 19:00

I like it. should be a nice addition with more people in the neighborhood each day.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby willyk » 08 Jul 2019 23:48

I like it. And adding critical mass is always a victory for Victory. I agree that this will be welcome support for the lunch business, which will benefit the residents too.

There is relatively little office here— just the existing Hillwood Building and the Plaza Buildings. When this one fills, it will validate the office market and lead to other projects.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby dallaz » 15 Jul 2019 19:25

It looks like they’ve started. I’ve seen construction equipment and ground torn up (on the site) driving south on Stemmons. Maybe 1 or 2 good piles of debris.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby willyk » 15 Jul 2019 22:18

New retail started next to Cinepolis—escape rooms. What am I missing? Is this considered to be a win for the main drag of a major development? Is it the demographic?

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby Thymant » 15 Jul 2019 23:40

BTW, I visited VP a few weeks ago to get a taste of the new nightlife scene and I have to say I was whether impressed! It's still only a few venues but Hero and Dibs where both pretty active not packed but relatively active. It was very busy at Billy Can Can and a few other restaurants down the street. But ultimately the feel and design of this neighborhood is very beautiful, unique, and well done! There was even a small crowd walking around to the various venues around the neighborhood. At this moment it's all very small but it seems the only missing ingredient is more bars. If at least ~4 bars that stay open until 2 am open, this will become the next new nightlife destination! It will still be small but that probably when it will be more pronounced.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby clcrash19 » 16 Jul 2019 10:22

I agree, last few times I have been down there, its impressed me how many people are walking around and how full some of the places are.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby dukemeredith » 16 Jul 2019 11:59

I also tried the new wine bar, Burgundy Swine, in VP. Unfortunate name, but the service was attentive, prices were fair and the space was comfortable.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby Cbdallas » 16 Jul 2019 14:50

We went Friday evening to HERO and had a great time it was around 7:30. What impressed me was that there was nothing at the arena or any other event and yet Hero was busy and the other places were too with people walking around. I think this area is going to be very popular in the fall with nice weather and all of the college football games.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 17 Jul 2019 10:53

I've seen Hero ads on local TV at the LA Fitness I go to and I forget its managed by the people that manage HG Supply on Lower Greenville.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby DPatel304 » 17 Jul 2019 14:07

Word will spread pretty quickly about this area once NBA/NHL season starts up again. Glad to hear things are going well so far, though.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 17 Jul 2019 16:32

Cbdallas wrote:We went Friday evening to HERO and had a great time it was around 7:30. What impressed me was that there was nothing at the arena or any other event and yet Hero was busy and the other places were too with people walking around. I think this area is going to be very popular in the fall with nice weather and all of the college football games.



What type of food does Hero Serve?

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby Zmitz » 24 Jul 2019 09:43

Victory Park and the Design District May Soon Have a Trail Connecting Them

https://www.dmagazine.com/frontburner/2 ... m/?ref=mpw

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby Zmitz » 30 Jul 2019 17:55

Apparently the spot near Sift + Pour that started being built out will be Chipotle. The doorman of the W mentioned this, supporting what another user had previously posted.

That spot had displayed a sign for Feed me Pronto earlier this year, so I wonder where that will be, if it ever opens.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby willyk » 30 Jul 2019 22:03

Scaffolding is being set up around the old Dallas Brewery / Starck Club building. Wondering if they have moved from demo and abatement to construction.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 31 Jul 2019 09:27

willyk wrote:Scaffolding is being set up around the old Dallas Brewery / Starck Club building. Wondering if they have moved from demo and abatement to construction.

I really hope the stucco can be removed.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby Tnexster » 31 Jul 2019 10:20

willyk wrote:Scaffolding is being set up around the old Dallas Brewery / Starck Club building. Wondering if they have moved from demo and abatement to construction.


Someone please remind me, what's being built here?

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby eburress » 31 Jul 2019 13:28

Tnexster wrote:
willyk wrote:Scaffolding is being set up around the old Dallas Brewery / Starck Club building. Wondering if they have moved from demo and abatement to construction.


Someone please remind me, what's being built here?


https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... tment-redo

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 31 Jul 2019 16:01

eburress wrote:
Tnexster wrote:
willyk wrote:Scaffolding is being set up around the old Dallas Brewery / Starck Club building. Wondering if they have moved from demo and abatement to construction.


Someone please remind me, what's being built here?


https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... tment-redo


I thought they were just bringing back the club??

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby eburress » 31 Jul 2019 16:11

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:
eburress wrote:
Tnexster wrote:
Someone please remind me, what's being built here?


https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... tment-redo


I thought they were just bringing back the club??


I'm a little fuzzy on the details since it's been a while, but the last I heard is they were planning to incorporate the Starck Club's famous round door into the new project. I think you're right about there being talk about re-launching the club, but it doesn't seem like that's what happening now.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby Matt777 » 31 Jul 2019 16:58

eburress wrote:
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:


I thought they were just bringing back the club??


I'm a little fuzzy on the details since it's been a while, but the last I heard is they were planning to incorporate the Starck Club's famous round door into the new project. I think you're right about there being talk about re-launching the club, but it doesn't seem like that's what happening now.


I remember reading that an athletic club was going to be part of the Starck revival.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby Tnexster » 31 Jul 2019 21:45

Saw a very tall red crane at the Hillwood site today. Is it too soon for them to be erecting the stationary crane?

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby willyk » 14 Aug 2019 12:47

Looks like they are getting ready to sandblast or paint the Brewery building. The parking lot is empty now, but for the work crews.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby jetnd87 » 15 Aug 2019 13:28

Mot Hai Ba opening a second location in Victory Park...

https://www.guidelive.com/restaurant-op ... 1552771070

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby DPatel304 » 15 Aug 2019 14:03

jetnd87 wrote:Mot Hai Ba opening a second location in Victory Park...

https://www.guidelive.com/restaurant-op ... 1552771070


I still haven't tried the original location, but awesome to see Victory Park getting this highly regarding restaurant.

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Postby emmasensei » 15 Aug 2019 15:07

This is amazing news, if it makes it easier to get a reservation! Mot Hai Ba is one of my absolute favorite restaurants in DFW.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby clcrash19 » 15 Aug 2019 16:05

Mot Hoi Ba rocks, this is great news

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby dallaz » 22 Aug 2019 11:07

Does anybody know what happened to the Hines Victory Park office tower? Is it dead? I haven’t heard anything about that project in a long time...

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 22 Aug 2019 11:28

Hines jumped over to doing a residential tower is seems in the land they are now developing near the W. While Hillwood Urban is building a spec office tower instead.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby Tnexster » 22 Aug 2019 11:44

dallaz wrote:Does anybody know what happened to the Hines Victory Park office tower? Is it dead? I haven’t heard anything about that project in a long time...


Austin is building a tower that looks remarkably similar to what Hines wanted to build except the one in Austin is much larger. Actually I hope Hines redesigns that tower before they bring it out of the ground.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby eburress » 11 Sep 2019 09:08

Image

A rendering of an Uber Elevate "station" which happens to be situated in Victory. I haven't read/seen much about how Uber is planning to execute Elevate, but apparently they're going to be heliports perched on a park and ride-style garages. Makes sense and as expensive as this surely is, it's still far cheaper (and more flexible) than a light rail system. The downside is that it's not economically accessible, being basically mass transit for the affluent. lol

https://www.loopnet.com/learn/behind-th ... 287290354/

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 11 Sep 2019 10:47

That's the city parking garage built as part of the American Airlines Center parking improvement project. Looks like they basically just added a new exterior and helipads to the top.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 11 Sep 2019 12:43

Since when did we plant trees?

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby NdoorTX » 11 Sep 2019 13:21

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:Since when did we plant trees?


It’s a new fangled idea - hopefully it takes root.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 11 Sep 2019 13:35

It seems like Uber Elevate in Dallas means the city should negotiate a deal to hand over the heliport on the Dallas Conventions Center for Uber to upgrade and tie into the high-speed rail station coming just across the freeway. I imagine the helideck would need to be bigger and add amenities but I am sure Uber could make something of it if the city gave them incentives to make it into something connected to the wider transportation network that will be in that area.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby maconahey » 27 Sep 2019 20:58

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby Tnexster » 28 Sep 2019 11:59

I see the base for the crane is installed.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby DPatel304 » 28 Sep 2019 15:47

I think I'm a little bit out of the loop here, but is this the Hines office tower? I didn't realize it was actually happening, that's pretty exciting!

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Postby Tnexster » 28 Sep 2019 16:10

DPatel304 wrote:I think I'm a little bit out of the loop here, but is this the Hines office tower? I didn't realize it was actually happening, that's pretty exciting!


This is Hillwood's project.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 29 Sep 2019 13:19

This is one of the towers Hillwood proposed for Amazon's Dallas Victory Park HQ. That version was a few floors taller but at least we will be getting a nicely landscaped park/plaza at the DART station as part of this project.

Since Hillwood is the exclusive developer for Uber flying taxis it's likely Hillwood will eventually build a heliport of some sort nearby either on the parking garage the city built or as part of another Hillwood proposal on their remaining parcels.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby lakewoodhobo » 29 Sep 2019 18:55

The project's final name is Victory Commons and here is their website: https://www.victorycommonsuptown.com/

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby dalbert » 30 Sep 2019 09:50

Walked through Victory yesterday, and it looked like Feed Me Pronto was having a soft opening at 2401 Victory Park Ln. Healthy grab & go concept that should fit in well in the neighborhood.

https://www.feedmepronto.com/locations

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby willyk » 01 Oct 2019 01:25

These guys deserve some kudos for adding tenants to the mix to service the neighborhood instead of only servicing the arena crowd.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby Zmitz » 03 Oct 2019 10:35

Does anyone have an idea why the retail space at the bottom of The House hasn't been leased? I understand that it is not controlled by Trademark but it seems odd that space around the neighborhood's park, main office building, and House of Blues sits empty. Even Hard Rock will be leaving soon and I feel like something more neighborhood focused could do well there.

Same situation for the restaurant space at the bottom of One Victory Park. I hope whatever goes in there eventually has an entrance on the street - right now the only way to enter the space is to go through the building lobby.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby dallaz » 06 Oct 2019 12:02

The crane is up for the Victory Commons project.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby Thymant » 06 Oct 2019 22:49

I wonder if the Hard Rock Cafe closing has anything to do with the proposed Hard Rock Hotel?

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby R1070 » 07 Oct 2019 11:17

There was a proposed Hard Rock hotel 5 years ago, but that indoor ski resort fell through. Is there another proposed hotel location?

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby DPatel304 » 07 Oct 2019 11:22

I'm pretty sure there was a rendering of a new building in the Design District along Riverfront that had a Hard Rock logo on it. Outside of that one rendering, I don't think anything else was said about the any Hard Rock Hotel.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby R1070 » 07 Oct 2019 11:45

If Hard Rock is planning to reopen and possibly with a hotel, at the convention center or in the heart of the West End by the aquarium or Dealey Plaza makes the most sense.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby Thymant » 07 Oct 2019 13:58

Yes there is a hotel and residential tower proposed in the Design District by JMJ Development, same company behind the “Asian themed” hotel and condo on Turtle Creek, check the Design District thread.

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Re: Victory Park 3.0

Postby dallaz » 10 Oct 2019 18:44

Found this online brochure of the Victory Commons project.

It shows the site plan, future expansion, etc.

https://issuu.com/jlldallasresearch/doc ... y_ave/4?ff


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