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Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Posted: 05 Nov 2018 08:56
by The_Overdog
it is very difficult and expensive to build parking underground since you hit limestone after going 10 feet underground.


That may be true, but there's a storage unit going up near my home that is currently digging 20+ feet underground, so I think the expense and difficulty of building underground in DFW is mostly worth it now, at least for commercial buildings, and it wouldn't surprise me if some new-build single family homes in inner city lots start getting basements in the next decade.

Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Posted: 05 Nov 2018 16:23
by cowboyeagle05
Let me be clear I understand the business side of the argument of underground vs above ground parking but I will always have a distaste for massive parking above ground.

Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Posted: 08 Nov 2018 11:22
by Reignofcane
They are assembling the crane today.

Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Posted: 18 Nov 2018 19:09
by Redblock
They finished erecting the crane on Saturday, November 17.

Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Posted: 14 May 2019 13:43
by dallaz
Finally able to contribute pics

Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Posted: 14 May 2019 15:01
by DBadger
dallaz wrote:Finally able to contribute pics

Is there a step by step on how to attach pictures to this forum?
I tried and failed miserably before.
;)

Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Posted: 14 May 2019 19:10
by R1070
Do we know if this hotel will have a flag? I saw someone on the construction fencing mentioning “Swiss”.

Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Posted: 14 May 2019 19:39
by NdoorTX
9B9D6794-3514-4780-BA7E-C5D29A6A4DCD.png
First thought was Soffitel, but that’s French. Maybe Swissotel??

Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Posted: 15 May 2019 03:30
by itsjrd1964
NdoorTX wrote:9B9D6794-3514-4780-BA7E-C5D29A6A4DCD.pngFirst thought was Soffitel, but that’s French. Maybe Swissotel??


If so, Swissotel is an Accor brand (company that used to own Motel 6/Studio 6). They only have 1 North American location, in Chicago on Wacker Drive overlooking the Chicago River. Elsewhere: Australia (1), Bosnia-Herzegovina (1), Bulgaria (1 later this year), China (3 now, 1 in 2021), Ecuador (1), Egypt (1 in 2020), Estonia (1), Germany (1), India (1), Indonesia (1 later this year, 1 in 2020), Japan (1), Netherlands (1), Peru (1), Russia (2), Saudi Arabia (2 now, 1 in 2020), Singapore (2), Switzerland (2), Thailand (3), Turkey (4), and United Arab Emirates (2). So if this property is named as a Swissotel, Dallas would be in rare company. As Accor recently acquired the Fairmont brand, Fairmont is already represented in DTD at Akard/Ross, so that hotel would be a sister branded hotel if the upcoming property in Uptown does become a Swissotel.

http://www.swissotel.com
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss%C3%B4tel

Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Posted: 15 May 2019 09:29
by Matt777
itsjrd1964 wrote:
NdoorTX wrote:9B9D6794-3514-4780-BA7E-C5D29A6A4DCD.pngFirst thought was Soffitel, but that’s French. Maybe Swissotel??


If so, Swissotel is an Accor brand (company that used to own Motel 6/Studio 6). They only have 1 North American location, in Chicago on Wacker Drive overlooking the Chicago River. Elsewhere: Australia (1), Bosnia-Herzegovina (1), Bulgaria (1 later this year), China (3 now, 1 in 2021), Ecuador (1), Egypt (1 in 2020), Estonia (1), Germany (1), India (1), Indonesia (1 later this year, 1 in 2020), Japan (1), Netherlands (1), Peru (1), Russia (2), Saudi Arabia (2 now, 1 in 2020), Singapore (2), Switzerland (2), Thailand (3), Turkey (4), and United Arab Emirates (2). So if this property is named as a Swissotel, Dallas would be in rare company. As Accor recently acquired the Fairmont brand, Fairmont is already represented in DTD at Akard/Ross, so that hotel would be a sister branded hotel if the upcoming property in Uptown does become a Swissotel.

http://www.swissotel.com
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss%C3%B4tel


Speaking of the Fairmount, boy do they need to remodel their downtown property or build a new one. It looks so dated, especially compared to the super modern one in Austin.

Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Posted: 15 May 2019 11:33
by Tordown
The family that founded Harwood is Swiss.

Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Posted: 15 May 2019 14:36
by Tnexster
Matt777 wrote:
itsjrd1964 wrote:
NdoorTX wrote:9B9D6794-3514-4780-BA7E-C5D29A6A4DCD.pngFirst thought was Soffitel, but that’s French. Maybe Swissotel??


If so, Swissotel is an Accor brand (company that used to own Motel 6/Studio 6). They only have 1 North American location, in Chicago on Wacker Drive overlooking the Chicago River. Elsewhere: Australia (1), Bosnia-Herzegovina (1), Bulgaria (1 later this year), China (3 now, 1 in 2021), Ecuador (1), Egypt (1 in 2020), Estonia (1), Germany (1), India (1), Indonesia (1 later this year, 1 in 2020), Japan (1), Netherlands (1), Peru (1), Russia (2), Saudi Arabia (2 now, 1 in 2020), Singapore (2), Switzerland (2), Thailand (3), Turkey (4), and United Arab Emirates (2). So if this property is named as a Swissotel, Dallas would be in rare company. As Accor recently acquired the Fairmont brand, Fairmont is already represented in DTD at Akard/Ross, so that hotel would be a sister branded hotel if the upcoming property in Uptown does become a Swissotel.

http://www.swissotel.com
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss%C3%B4tel


Speaking of the Fairmount, boy do they need to remodel their downtown property or build a new one. It looks so dated, especially compared to the super modern one in Austin.


Great idea but I vote for new high profile hotel downtown and let the old buildings get converted to residential. Lots of room for a new Fairmont somewhere else.

Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Posted: 15 May 2019 14:48
by Hannibal Lecter
Tnexster wrote:Great idea but I vote for new high profile hotel downtown and let the old buildings get converted to residential.


That's ironic. The Fairmont complex was originally designed to be condos. They ran out of money during construction, and the unfinished buildings sat there as massive eyesores on the skyline for three years until Fairmont bought them.

Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Posted: 15 May 2019 15:12
by Matt777
Hannibal Lecter wrote:
Tnexster wrote:Great idea but I vote for new high profile hotel downtown and let the old buildings get converted to residential.


That's ironic. The Fairmont complex was originally designed to be condos. They ran out of money during construction, and the unfinished buildings sat there as massive eyesores on the skyline for three years until Fairmont bought them.


Yup. It could actually be an attractive building if they ripped out the 1980's granite base that was added later on, and went back to a 1960's modern design. Paint the structure white, replace the glass windows, add new lighting in the overhangs on each floor, and some plants and splashes of color. Voila, midcentury modern highrise.

Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Posted: 22 May 2019 12:01
by maconahey
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Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Posted: 07 Jun 2019 20:21
by maconahey
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Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Posted: 09 Jul 2019 13:53
by maconahey
Harwood International introduces Swexan Hotel, Dallas’ very first boutique luxury hotel with an invigorating interpretation of how the modern day hotel should be

Image

https://harwoodinternational.com/harwood12-2

Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Posted: 09 Jul 2019 14:15
by eburress
I like this design A LOT more than the previous version! Thanks for posting!

Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Posted: 09 Jul 2019 14:18
by Kelley USA
Okay, I dig it! So Swexan is basically a combo of the words Swiss & Texan?!

Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Posted: 09 Jul 2019 15:24
by The_Overdog
Okay, I dig it! So Swexan is basically a combo of the words Swiss & Texan?!


So one year after it's built, the "W" burns out (I swear those fluorescent lights have a wider variation in quality than college football teams) and it's going to be the Sexan Hotel?

Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Posted: 09 Jul 2019 15:34
by exelone31
Looks cool, hope it turns out as translucent in real life.

Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Posted: 09 Jul 2019 16:43
by Tivo_Kenevil
exelone31 wrote:Looks cool, hope it turns out as translucent in real life.

Hopefully this time Harwood delivers.

Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Posted: 10 Jul 2019 11:58
by mwaskow
This rendering is a lot better than the previous one.

Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Posted: 11 Jul 2019 02:57
by Alpaca_Obsessor
To quote a user from the Skyscraperpage Dallas Thread:

Did, did they just shove a plantation house in on the 5th floor?

Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Posted: 11 Jul 2019 09:18
by cowboyeagle05
Yeah, the Gone with the Wind windows seems more random than strategically placed. I assume that's supposed to be our Texas Southern influence...

Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Posted: 11 Jul 2019 12:19
by exelone31
cowboyeagle05 wrote:Yeah, the Gone with the Wind windows seems more random than strategically placed. I assume that's supposed to be our Texas Southern influence...


I think you mean "Swexas"

Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Posted: 11 Jul 2019 15:40
by Tnexster
Did that rendering disappear from Harwood's website? I can't find it.

Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Posted: 11 Jul 2019 17:48
by cowboyeagle05
Looks like they took that page down from the website...

Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Posted: 11 Jul 2019 22:38
by CTroyMathis
It's been cached quite well though.

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/ ... clnk&gl=us

And, the image gets quite large:

https://harwoodinternational.com/wp-con ... 2-web2.jpg

But, we gotta talk about this word Swexan. Not so sure about that, but, they've been using it for things since late 2017. They've even gone through a trademark process that I haven't followed-up on any time recently.

Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Posted: 12 Jul 2019 08:17
by Otronivel81
Hopefully those horizontal bands don't end up nasty looking like that SMU building on 75.

Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Posted: 12 Jul 2019 08:36
by exelone31
"Quick! To the trademark office! We must protect the name 'Swexan' at all costs. Once our competitors hear it, they will be falling all over themselves to steal it!"

Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Posted: 12 Jul 2019 10:45
by homeworld1031tx
exelone31 wrote:"Quick! To the trademark office! We must protect the name 'Swexan' at all costs. Once our competitors hear it, they will be falling all over themselves to steal it!"


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Posted: 12 Jul 2019 11:48
by Tnexster
To be totally honest I really don't care for the name Swexan.

Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Posted: 12 Jul 2019 18:44
by LongonBigD
I dunno about the eyebrow windows. They look very 1990 suburban tract house. Meh. Those chandeliers will be a huge liability during on of our spring wind gusts.

Re: Harwood Int'l District: No.12 Harwood Hotel (20 ST)

Posted: 13 Jul 2019 11:01
by cowboyeagle05
DALLAS the series, your windows are calling...