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Victory Park: SkyHouse Victory Place (290 FT / 25 ST)

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Re: Victory Park: SkyHouse Victory Place (290 FT / 25 ST)

Postby Cbdallas » 16 Mar 2017 15:11

If nothing else they should give good deals to amenities for their renters like nail and hair salons dry cleaners juice bars coffe shops etc. I have never understood retail space sitting empty for more than a year in a market like this. I guess their business model is no rent is better than some rent. This applies to the entire urban core. I think Dallas is oversaturating with restuarants and the rents are too high for most of them to make it at this level.

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Re: Victory Park: SkyHouse Victory Place (290 FT / 25 ST)

Postby The_Overdog » 17 Mar 2017 10:10

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Does anyone here have insight into downtown retail leasing prices and what these apartment building owners are asking for lease rates?


Not sure about downtown, but the aged stripmalls that are getting lots of small business in Plano & Richardson and Carrollton & the like still rent for less than $1 a sq foot in many cases. City of Richardson posted that they have decreased from something like 14% retail vacancy in 2012 to 5% today, so those days may be numbered. But that just means an increase from $1 to $2.

I'd bet a brand new downtown building is $20 and higher for retail frontage. That's a tough business case to make - I'm just not sure downtown has the population for that quite yet. There were some stories about Greenville Ave businesses struggling to make rent in January, probably at similar per sq foot rates. So if Greenville is a struggle, downtown is a struggle.

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Re: Victory Park: SkyHouse Victory Place (290 FT / 25 ST)

Postby texasstar » 25 Mar 2017 23:40

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:The garage is an abomination


Hardly. Looks like one of the best I've ever seen here. And a vast improvement over the one it is hiding.

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Re: Victory Park: SkyHouse Victory Place (290 FT / 25 ST)

Postby tamtagon » 26 Mar 2017 08:22

any chance the plan is to cover this with ivy or something alive and pretty?

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Re: Victory Park: SkyHouse Victory Place (290 FT / 25 ST)

Postby willyk » 26 Mar 2017 14:31

I think the garage looks just fine. The retail frontage is low key but entirely appropriate for the structure and location. Hoping the retail spaces appeal to neighborhood service businesses that will make VP livable. There is a better shot of getting them in here with spaces like this than on Victory Park Lane.

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Re: Victory Park: SkyHouse Victory Place (290 FT / 25 ST)

Postby exelone31 » 27 Mar 2017 07:44

That garage isn't too shabby at all. Throw in some basic service/retail amenities and you're all set.

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Re: Victory Park: SkyHouse Victory Place (290 FT / 25 ST)

Postby Tnexster » 27 Mar 2017 13:33

Looks much better than I would have guessed. Awnings, trees, lighting and what appears to be a decent sized sidewalk.

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Re: Victory Park: SkyHouse Victory Place (290 FT / 25 ST)

Postby maconahey » 01 May 2017 12:11

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Re: Victory Park: SkyHouse Victory Place (290 FT / 25 ST)

Postby LongonBigD » 01 May 2017 20:27

The tower itself looks very dark and depressing in person with all that brown/bronze glass. It's like a black hole sucking all the light around it into itself.

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Postby DPatel304 » 15 May 2017 13:00

The first of four apartment towers on the way in Dallas' Victory Park development will open its doors this week.
The 25-story Victory Place high-rise is being built on the east side of the American Airlines Center arena at Houston and Payne streets.
The luxury rental building contains 352 apartments and was built by Atlanta-based Novare Group.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... ning-doors

The article doesn't actually name the building (at least I don't think it does), but I'm 99.99% certain this is referring to the Skyhouse building.

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Re: Victory Park: SkyHouse Victory Place (290 FT / 25 ST)

Postby eburress » 15 May 2017 15:08

A Skyhouse rendering is shown in the article page's header, the article mentions the building is "being built on the east side of the American Airlines Center arena at Houston and Payne streets" and is "built by Atlanta-based Novare Group..."

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Re: Victory Park: SkyHouse Victory Place (290 FT / 25 ST)

Postby R1070 » 15 May 2017 20:58

If we get another skyhouse it needs to be in Oak Lawn or the downtown core.

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 16 May 2017 08:40

R1070 wrote:If we get another skyhouse it needs to be in Oak Lawn or the downtown core.


Probably would end up in the Design District.

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Re: Victory Park: SkyHouse Victory Place (290 FT / 25 ST)

Postby eburress » 16 May 2017 09:48

My vote is also for the Downtown core...somewhere between the Farmer's Market and Statler would be great.

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Re: Victory Park: SkyHouse Victory Place (290 FT / 25 ST)

Postby dch526 » 16 May 2017 10:12

R1070 wrote:If we get another skyhouse it needs to be in Oak Lawn or the downtown core.


If they end up putting one in Downtown, hopefully they'll bump it up to the Atlantic House instead (32 stories 400+ units)

http://novaregroup.com/current-developments/

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Re: Victory Park: SkyHouse Victory Place (290 FT / 25 ST)

Postby eburress » 16 May 2017 11:23

dch526 wrote:
R1070 wrote:If we get another skyhouse it needs to be in Oak Lawn or the downtown core.


If they end up putting one in Downtown, hopefully they'll bump it up to the Atlantic House instead (32 stories 400+ units)

http://novaregroup.com/current-developments/


Yep, that'd be cool!

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Re: Victory Park: SkyHouse Victory Place (290 FT / 25 ST)

Postby mdg109 » 18 Jul 2018 12:58

This Italian place looks cool, but was totally empty when I walked by a little after 8pm.
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Re: Victory Park: SkyHouse Victory Place (290 FT / 25 ST)

Postby DPatel304 » 18 Jul 2018 13:06

Thanks for the picture updates, I'm not too surprised to see this part of VP is still dead, but it sounds like activity on Victory Park Ln is picking up, so I'm sure it'll just be a matter of time before this section becomes more active.

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Re: Victory Park: SkyHouse Victory Place (290 FT / 25 ST)

Postby exelone31 » 18 Jul 2018 13:28

Cool pic! I like the awnings. The fact that I see more than zero people in the photo is a sign of progress to me.

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Re: Victory Park: SkyHouse Victory Place (290 FT / 25 ST)

Postby ContriveDallasite » 18 Jul 2018 14:22

Does anyone know the occupancy rates yet?

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Re: Victory Park: SkyHouse Victory Place (290 FT / 25 ST)

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 18 Jul 2018 15:18

That Italian place is in a pretty big dead zone after all surrounded by speedways designed to move as many people away from the area as fast as possible during games. It's not the area people wander around. Hopefully, they offer delivery so they can pick up some business from online searches for Italian.

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Re: Victory Park: SkyHouse Victory Place (290 FT / 25 ST)

Postby CTroyMathis » 07 Aug 2018 23:24

By the way, I don't think they use the name SkyHouse for this building anymore. It appears it is just Victory Place.


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