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Cityplace West/West Village: Residential Tower (~250 FT / 23 ST) / Hilton Canopy (8 ST)


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Re: Cityplace West/West Village: Residential Tower (~250 FT / 23 ST) / Hilton Canopy (8 ST)

Postby DPatel304 » 15 May 2018 21:09

LongonBigD wrote:A ceiling arch extends inside parallel to Cityplace West made of old red brick. At the east end of the lobby is what appears to be the sliced off front end of a MATA trolley mounted to the wall (complete with “Ride Free” signage). This looks good, ties in the immediate neighborhood and is quite unexpected in such a modern, sleek exterior.


They've posted a few pictures on their instagram page:
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Rezoning sign up at Mutt's

Postby LongonBigD » 06 Jun 2018 15:03

I can't find a generic West Village thread.

This appeared in the last couple of days. Is this news regarding the future of the Mutt's tract or just a minor change? Anybody know? The original plan was a skyscraper. I believe zoning allows for 43 stories on this tract, but we can't seem to go higher than 20 in Uptown lately.
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Re: Cityplace West/West Village: Residential Tower (~250 FT / 23 ST) / Hilton Canopy (8 ST)

Postby R1070 » 06 Jun 2018 21:47

The new apt buildings in W. Village are 21 and 23 floors. I imagine it would be something around that height or shorter to match the adjacent apt midrises.

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Re: Cityplace West/West Village: Residential Tower (~250 FT / 23 ST) / Hilton Canopy (8 ST)

Postby DPatel304 » 06 Jun 2018 23:20

It would be awesome if the Mutt's and the former Minyard's plot of land were re-developed at the same time.

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Re: Cityplace West/West Village: Residential Tower (~250 FT / 23 ST) / Hilton Canopy (8 ST)

Postby jrd1964 » 07 Jun 2018 07:50

Logo signage has been put up in recent days along the roofline of the Canopy part of the complex. There is 1 each on the west and east sides of the hotel.

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Re: Cityplace West/West Village: Residential Tower (~250 FT / 23 ST) / Hilton Canopy (8 ST)

Postby ContriveDallasite » 07 Jun 2018 08:52

DPatel304 wrote:It would be awesome if the Mutt's and the former Minyard's plot of land were re-developed at the same time.


I would prefer Mutts and The Rustic to holdout. As we've been saying the past few days, if the "Uptownification" of Uptown continues, and we lose these two spots, we start losing the types of places that made Uptown special in the first place.

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Re: Cityplace West/West Village: Residential Tower (~250 FT / 23 ST) / Hilton Canopy (8 ST)

Postby DPatel304 » 07 Jun 2018 09:53

I get your point, however, Mutts and Rustic are relatively late additions to Uptown and, from the beginning, we knew they were temporary venues that would eventually be replaced. I do agree that not everything should be re-developed into a high-rise, but, for this specific case, I'm totally on board with it.

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Re: Cityplace West/West Village: Residential Tower (~250 FT / 23 ST) / Hilton Canopy (8 ST)

Postby ArtVandelay » 07 Jun 2018 10:13

They are requesting to decrease the FAR (floor area ratio) for multifamily and increase it for all other uses.

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Postby tamtagon » 07 Jun 2018 10:27

Hopefully this site will join other recent developments with increased size and residential density.

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Postby Matt777 » 07 Jun 2018 11:07

Maybe a combined Rustic/Mutts can be re-accommodated permanently on city owned park land somewhere else in Uptown, with a long term land lease from the city. Reverchon Park seems to have some underutilized land that could work.

If not, I wouldn't mind seeing them move to East Dallas into an empty land near the Ross and Haskell vicinity. This area has so much empty land that could be redeveloped.

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 07 Jun 2018 13:05

Rustic has already been contacted about opening something similar far up north most likely the second location with the same name. Although I am not that impressed with Rustic as far as a venue and space. It was a great use for land temporarily and the city granted them a temporary allowance for it to happen. I imagine now that its a proven concept any landowner will want to charge them up the hilt to run something similar since the Rustic does sell a lot of alcohol according to the TABC records. Mutts is a little more unique and I could definitely see working to find them a location since their operation is quite small. Its a rather small building to house the kitchen and bar and then its a matter of a deck and fencing and staff. Rustic is a full-on restaurant and outdoor venue that in some form can really be recreated anywhere with the right mix.

I would even go as far as to say Barnett was trying to do the Rustic one better at Toyota Music Factory and did a bad job at capturing what the Rustic did capture with its atmosphere. I just don't think the Rustic needs accommodation through the city. Mutts does provide a dog park experience that the city hasn't captured that the West Village and many other neighborhoods would love to have. I can point to a dozen places I think Mutts would attract a customer base and the neighborhood might welcome. Rustic is just another backyard bar with a decent menu and stage setup.

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 07 Jun 2018 13:08

The true reality is all these apartment complexes are full of people with dogs and looking for a relatively close place to take them and still have a beer and be with friends.

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Postby Matt777 » 07 Jun 2018 14:17

cowboyeagle05 wrote:Rustic has already been contacted about opening something similar far up north most likely the second location with the same name. Although I am not that impressed with Rustic as far as a venue and space. It was a great use for land temporarily and the city granted them a temporary allowance for it to happen. I imagine now that its a proven concept any landowner will want to charge them up the hilt to run something similar since the Rustic does sell a lot of alcohol according to the TABC records. Mutts is a little more unique and I could definitely see working to find them a location since their operation is quite small. Its a rather small building to house the kitchen and bar and then its a matter of a deck and fencing and staff. Rustic is a full-on restaurant and outdoor venue that in some form can really be recreated anywhere with the right mix.

I would even go as far as to say Barnett was trying to do the Rustic one better at Toyota Music Factory and did a bad job at capturing what the Rustic did capture with its atmosphere. I just don't think the Rustic needs accommodation through the city. Mutts does provide a dog park experience that the city hasn't captured that the West Village and many other neighborhoods would love to have. I can point to a dozen places I think Mutts would attract a customer base and the neighborhood might welcome. Rustic is just another backyard bar with a decent menu and stage setup.


Regardless of whether we personally like the Rustic or not (it's not my cup of tea), it is a draw for the live/work/play atmosphere that Uptown provides. I don't see enough "play" opportunities coming to the urban core when it comes to outdoor activities. Uptown is increasingly just live/work. More apartments? Every city nationwide has apartments, and many of them look surprisingly identical to what has been built in Uptown. What is going to be our unique draw to get people to move here and stay here, put down roots?

The Rustic isn't anything spectacular in my opinion, but I can say anecdotally that it is one of the few places in Dallas I have heard people from other cities say they know and like. Nobody says "Omg I had a great time in Dallas looking at that one apartment building, so good with its' EIFS exterior and parking garage!"

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 07 Jun 2018 14:27

I can point to you 10 other places in Dallas not even DFW but Dallas that have the same mystique and following. The Rustic can find its own land to move its operation no need to hold up land like the Rustic is some unique thing worth saving from the wrecking ball. I hear a piece of former Sams Club land is available across the way. Maybe Trammel Crow can sneak them across the freeway and build the mixed-use development where we know they are capable of doing so.

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Re: Cityplace West/West Village: Residential Tower (~250 FT / 23 ST) / Hilton Canopy (8 ST)

Postby uptown74 » 07 Jun 2018 22:11

I don't understand the dislike for Mutts and Rustic. Sure, I get that they were alway supposed to be temporary, but they have proven themselves to be popular attractions for the area. The notion that every square foot of uptown should be mid-rise apartments with/without ground floor retail , etc, is just boring to me.

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Re: Cityplace West/West Village: Residential Tower (~250 FT / 23 ST) / Hilton Canopy (8 ST)

Postby Matt777 » 07 Jun 2018 23:05

uptown74 wrote:I don't understand the dislike for Mutts and Rustic. Sure, I get that they were alway supposed to be temporary, but they have proven themselves to be popular attractions for the area. The notion that every square foot of uptown should be mid-rise apartments with/without ground floor retail , etc, is just boring to me.


Agreed! I'm not saying let them stay where they are, I'm just saying it would be good for them to be re-accommodated somewhere permanently in the neighborhood. Even smaller cities are getting the urban style apartment midrises with walkable retail/dining/bars these days. They don't set us apart anymore. We need some space reserved for outdoor activities and hanging out.

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Re: Cityplace West/West Village: Residential Tower (~250 FT / 23 ST) / Hilton Canopy (8 ST)

Postby DPatel304 » 13 Jun 2018 19:53

“We are excited to open this lifestyle hotel in our own backyard and give guests, locals and out-of-towners alike, a true sense of Texas hospitality,” Alan Naul, founder of The Javelin Group, said in a press release.

The hotel itself will reflect Dallas culture, featuring local artwork, vintage bricks from McKinney Avenue and a refurbished section of the M-Line Trolley. The guest rooms, called “Just Right” rooms, will offer views of downtown Dallas, handcrafted furniture, cooling mattresses, Nespresso machines, walk-in showers and open closets.

Guests receive a welcome gift upon check in, pastries from nearby French bakery Bisous Bisous. Each morning, they can order an artisanal breakfast at Canopy Central Café or arrange for a grab-and-go breakfast bag to be delivered to their room. Each evening, the rooftop lounge, Upside, will host a tasting of craft and local beers, wine and cocktails. Featured breweries will include Deep Ellum Brewery, Community Brewery and Lakewood Brewery.

The Dallas Uptown hotel is also participating in the brand’s Paws in the Neighborhood initiative, a partnership with pet product manufacturer Planet Dog. Each canine guest will receive a dog bed and a “Paws in the Neighborhood Welcome Gift” with an Orbee ball, dog treats and pick-up bags.

https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news ... py-by.html

Some information about the upcoming hotel.

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Re: Cityplace West/West Village: Residential Tower (~250 FT / 23 ST) / Hilton Canopy (8 ST)

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 13 Jun 2018 22:08

What a great addition. Well done.

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Postby Tnexster » 16 Jun 2018 16:41

That looks very nice, and that view of downtown is awesome. I am sure it is much better in person.

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Re: Cityplace West/West Village: Residential Tower (~250 FT / 23 ST) / Hilton Canopy (8 ST)

Postby Warrior2015 » 16 Jun 2018 16:50

Tnexster wrote:That looks very nice, and that view of downtown is awesome. I am sure it is much better in person.

I'm going to get a room here when it opens and enjoy that rooftop. Very nice addition to WV.

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Postby Tnexster » 16 Jun 2018 16:59

The missing piece at WV, finally it arrives!

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Re: Cityplace West/West Village: Residential Tower (~250 FT / 23 ST) / Hilton Canopy (8 ST)

Postby Tnexster » 10 Jul 2018 20:43

Hilton covers Uptown with new 'Canopy' hotel brand

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/hot ... otel-brand

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Re: Cityplace West/West Village: Residential Tower (~250 FT / 23 ST) / Hilton Canopy (8 ST)

Postby itsjrd1964 » 04 Aug 2018 02:23

Steve Brown extols the amenities and characteristics of the new complex:

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... -pool-deck

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Postby Tnexster » 07 Aug 2018 16:49

itsjrd1964 wrote:Steve Brown extols the amenities and characteristics of the new complex:

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... -pool-deck


Is the hotel open?

The smallest unit in the new Ardan building starts at just under $1,900 a month.

The biggest two-bedroom apartment with a separate den will set you back as much as $4,730.

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Re: Cityplace West/West Village: Residential Tower (~250 FT / 23 ST) / Hilton Canopy (8 ST)

Postby Redblock » 07 Aug 2018 20:16

Is the hotel open?

Yes, it opened July 8th.


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