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The Cedars: Old City Park & Dallas Heritage Village

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Re: The Cedars Developments

Postby lakewoodhobo » 06 Nov 2017 09:40

I like the pattern we are following, intentionally or not, of building deck parks next to existing assets like the Arts District and the Dallas Zoo. By that logic, support for Heritage Village and Fair Park decks would follow but not one connecting the Convention Center to the Cedars.

Heritage Village is such a wonderful asset and developers would be wise to start surrounding it now with new construction... compare that to building around Fair Park, which would be a toxic mess of a story.

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Re: The Cedars Developments

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 06 Nov 2017 11:05

Heritage village is under appreciated

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Re: The Cedars Developments

Postby Tnexster » 12 Nov 2017 16:04

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:Heritage village is under appreciated


True, I have lived here for 27 years and have never been.

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Re: The Cedars Developments

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 12 Nov 2017 16:06

Tnexster wrote:
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:Heritage village is under appreciated


True, I have lived here for 27 years and have never been.

Check it out. It's quite lovely. I took some friends from Ireland there. Real Charming.

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Re: The Cedars Developments

Postby tanzoak » 12 Nov 2017 16:22

Tnexster wrote:
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:Heritage village is under appreciated


True, I have lived here for 27 years and have never been.


I appreciate you, Tnexster. Which cabin are you in?

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Re: The Cedars Developments

Postby DPatel304 » 13 Nov 2017 00:50

Tnexster wrote:
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:Heritage village is under appreciated


True, I have lived here for 27 years and have never been.


32 years and same. I only found out about it earlier this year too. I'll make it out there at some point.

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Re: The Cedars Developments

Postby Tnexster » 13 Nov 2017 20:24

tanzoak wrote:
Tnexster wrote:
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:Heritage village is under appreciated


True, I have lived here for 27 years and have never been.


I appreciate you, Tnexster. Which cabin are you in?


Hahahaha!

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Re: The Cedars Developments

Postby lakewoodhobo » 16 Nov 2017 11:06

Speaking of Dallas Heritage Village, they have just updated their master plan that includes an expansion outside their fenced-in museum. The block between S. St. Paul and Park Ave will have a pond, pavilion and visitors center and makes a big bet on future development surrounding this area. Separate from the master plan, Jim Lake Co. wants the city to abandon S. St. Paul behind the Ambassador for direct access to the park.

I'd personally like to see the parking lot redeveloped, but that may be for the next master plan.

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You can read about the plan here: https://dallasheritagevillage.worldsecu ... an-for-dhv

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Re: The Cedars Developments

Postby DPatel304 » 16 Nov 2017 11:45

Very cool, really hope this does end up happening. There's a lot of land to play around with in the Cedars, so I'm exciting for things to really kick off in this area.

Also, does that proposed mixed-use multifamily say "Uptown #2" on it (The building bounded by Beaumont, St. Paul, Hickory, and Park Ave)?

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The Cedars: Old City Park & Dallas Heritage Village

Postby lakewoodhobo » 21 Mar 2018 11:04

I think this park deserves a thread considering how it was the first city park, the victim of bad interstate highway planning and now the centerpiece of a growing Cedars neighborhood.

One of the things I'm curious about is its original layout and what the park would look like today if it hadn't been for I-30. I've superimposed a postcard drawing of the park on a satellite photo to give an idea.

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Aerial from 1930:

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And aerial from 1975:

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Re: Old City Park (+ Dallas Heritage Village)

Postby tamtagon » 21 Mar 2018 11:38

Such a forgotten park, I'd bet half the people in Dallas don't even know it exists. I've never been there, but doesn't the park have an active calendar of events like Jazz Age Sunday Social?

Number One mandate-candidate for TXDoT to repair with a deck park over a sunken highway; number two mandate-candidate connects the convention center to The Cedars.

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Re: Old City Park (+ Dallas Heritage Village)

Postby lakewoodhobo » 21 Mar 2018 11:59

tamtagon wrote:Such a forgotten park, I'd bet half the people in Dallas don't even know it exists. I've never been there, but doesn't the park have an active calendar of events like Jazz Age Sunday Social?

Number One mandate-candidate for TXDoT to repair with a deck park over a sunken highway; number two mandate-candidate connects the convention center to The Cedars.


Yes, Jazz Age Sunday Social was last weekend and it's a fantastic event. I can't believe more people don't go because it's a perfect alternative to the St. Patrick's Day shitshow. People dress in period costume, and you can bring a picnic. It's like Easter in the Park + Comic Con in one. The other main event that I'm aware of is Candlelight Celebration in December. Again, a very cool event.

The park should be more aggressive in hosting more events. There's no reason why there shouldn't be a fall/Halloween festival, overnight camping and something in the summer.

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Re: Old City Park (+ Dallas Heritage Village)

Postby dfwcre8tive » 21 Mar 2018 12:01

If the Confederate War Memorial is removed from Pioneer Plaza, Old City Park/Dallas Heritage Village could be an appropriate place to send it. It was the original location for the memorial (it was moved for freeway construction) and putting it in a "museum" setting would allow for educational discourse and interpretive information around one era of Dallas history.

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Re: Old City Park (+ Dallas Heritage Village)

Postby lakewoodhobo » 21 Mar 2018 12:06

dfwcre8tive wrote:If the Confederate War Memorial is removed from Pioneer Plaza, Old City Park/Dallas Heritage Village could be an appropriate place to send it. It was the original location for the memorial (it was moved for freeway construction) and putting it in a "museum" setting would allow for educational discourse and interpretive information around one era of Dallas history.


That is a great idea in theory, but I'm not sure it would execute well. Sending that monument back to "Heritage" Village might be a PR nightmare even though there are plenty of references to slavery in signage that describes the Millermore home and other structures.

Given that it's impossible to place it in the exact location where it once stood, I like the idea of keeping it in a cemetery.

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Re: Old City Park (+ Dallas Heritage Village)

Postby dfwcre8tive » 21 Mar 2018 15:34

lakewoodhobo wrote:
dfwcre8tive wrote:If the Confederate War Memorial is removed from Pioneer Plaza, Old City Park/Dallas Heritage Village could be an appropriate place to send it. It was the original location for the memorial (it was moved for freeway construction) and putting it in a "museum" setting would allow for educational discourse and interpretive information around one era of Dallas history.


That is a great idea in theory, but I'm not sure it would execute well. Sending that monument back to "Heritage" Village might be a PR nightmare even though there are plenty of references to slavery in signage that describes the Millermore home and other structures.

Given that it's impossible to place it in the exact location where it once stood, I like the idea of keeping it in a cemetery.


Good points, and the operators of Heritage Village may not want to take on the responsibility. It's a complicated issue and it sounds like nobody wants it anyway. Link: https://www.dallasnews.com/news/dallas- ... te-statues

On a lighter note, they could turn a corner of Heritage Village into an en exhibit of architectural salvage items from the city's boneyard. Demolishing buildings (and saving a few) is another part of Dallas history.


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