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Re: Downtown: Klyde Warren Park

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 07 Feb 2018 13:00

The Amazon HQ2 Victory Park proposal includes the North End Apartments and includes multiple landowners Hillwood being one of them. We need to simply look at that article from the Dallas Morning News with the map of the Victory proposal. The article had each landowner listed on the map since the Victory Proposal is a large partnership proposal. Keep in mind being so many landowners involved hurts that proposal cause even with agreements you can have infighting resulting in slowdowns in the larger project getting built.

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Re: Downtown: Klyde Warren Park

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 07 Feb 2018 13:30

tamtagon wrote:I don't know who owns that gold mine, but they need to cash out so the museum can have a lawn.

Honestly, if Perot wanted a lawn they would have one. They own a huge lot next to the museum. That lot is to be the next part of the museum. But it's massive enough to fit another museum, a garage and a park.

Either Perot is cheap or they want the city to provide the green space and parking.

I bet they want to continue to use the city Parking (under woodall) for free and have the city build the green space (KWP extension)... All at the city's expense of course.

To be fair we would be better off if the city used the parking under woodall as a massive North Texas Skate Park and if possible some greenery near the periphery of frog alley. This would help connect West End/CBD and VP.

The Perot Museum can go to hell. Cheap bastards.

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Re: Downtown: Klyde Warren Park

Postby Tucy » 07 Feb 2018 16:02

tamtagon wrote:I understand Perot's desire to have a dedicated path from the super popular park to the museum, but that elevated walkway is just about as silly as the elevated parking garage.


Exactly right. We already have a "dedicated path". It's called sidewalks. We have spent/are spending hundreds of millions of dollars trying to create an urban environment in downtown and uptown Dallas. These silly elevated walkways would take us in exactly the wrong direction.

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Re: Downtown: Klyde Warren Park

Postby muncien » 08 Feb 2018 08:40

Tucy wrote:
tamtagon wrote:I understand Perot's desire to have a dedicated path from the super popular park to the museum, but that elevated walkway is just about as silly as the elevated parking garage.


Exactly right. We already have a "dedicated path". It's called sidewalks. We have spent/are spending hundreds of millions of dollars trying to create an urban environment in downtown and uptown Dallas. These silly elevated walkways would take us in exactly the wrong direction.


No kidding... There is room for improvement along that sidewalk, but the sidewalk itself works just fine. Setting the precedent that folks should be able to go from one to the other without pressing a crosswalk button is ridiculous, and will result in unrealistic expectations elsewhere.
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Re: Downtown: Klyde Warren Park

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 08 Feb 2018 08:46

I get that they want to pretend that elevated walkway would be our High-line but that was a repurposed elevated railway through the dense walkable cityscape of New York. This would be a purpose-built highway ramp/overpass aka elevated trail. The beauty of the High Line is that it was recycled infrastructure turned into public space. Our High Line is the Katy Trail. Sit down and work with the city and anyone charged with access road changes and fix the damn sidewalk. Create useable public space at street intersections where there is none.

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Re: Downtown: Klyde Warren Park

Postby tamtagon » 08 Feb 2018 09:59

I think it would be great if the museum's elevated walkway to Klyde Warren Park is a marvel of engineering and science, turning the 5 minute walk into a stroll through a nature & science project, but the city's help should be limited to getting through the red-tape.

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Re: Downtown: Klyde Warren Park

Postby dallaz » 17 Apr 2018 18:57

Dallas' Klyde Warren Park names fundraising veteran Kit Sawers as president to help its garden grow

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/phi ... -president

Big plans are in the works for Klyde Warren 2.0: a new fountain on the east end, expansion of the children’s park on the west end and redesigning the area around Olive Street.

The park needs about $15 million in private donations to pull off all of that, says retired banker Jody Grant, the man behind the 5.2-acre freeway-deck park and chairman of the Woodall Rodgers Park Foundation, the nonprofit that runs it.



Most people don’t realize the park doesn’t receive operating funds from the city.

That means the foundation must bring in about $5.5 million this year to manage, run it and keep it looking pristine, says Jody Grant, the 79-year-old chairman emeritus of Texas Capital Bank.

“We look at it as total cash out vs. total cash in,” he says. “We’ve been closing the gap, but when you look at it that way, we’ve been in a deficit ever since the park opened.”

The shortfall this year will be about $250,000 before allocating money for the park’s next phase.

“We desperately need somebody who has the tools that Kit brings,” says Grant. “There is a simple axiom here: We can deliver services that far exceed what we do today. Money is the only thing that stands between us and having activities in the park that begin at 6 a.m. and last all day, every day.”

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Re: Downtown: Klyde Warren Park

Postby dfwcre8tive » 25 Apr 2018 15:29

tamtagon wrote:I think it would be great if the museum's elevated walkway to Klyde Warren Park is a marvel of engineering and science, turning the 5 minute walk into a stroll through a nature & science project, but the city's help should be limited to getting through the red-tape.


Or connect it with a "world class" aerial tram?

http://gondolaproject.com/2018/03/16/op ... rial-tram/

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