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Re: DFW Airport

Postby Tucy » 21 May 2019 17:05

Tnexster wrote:
Alex Rodriguez wrote:D cost $1.2 Billion 15 years ago. Its probably the scale of the thing, D is massive and F will be equally as massive. 24 gates is surprisingly low, maybe its going to be primarily built out to handle 789, 773, big widebodies?


Probably, but doesn't this project also include a remodel of Terminal C?


Terminal C adds another 1/2 Billion.

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Re: DFW Airport

Postby Tucy » 21 May 2019 17:12

Alex Rodriguez wrote:D cost $1.2 Billion 15 years ago. Its probably the scale of the thing, D is massive and F will be equally as massive. 24 gates is surprisingly low, maybe its going to be primarily built out to handle 789, 773, big widebodies?


D was built with 28 gates and the Grand Hyatt Hotel and the FIS facility.

F will apparently have 24 gates, at most. There is no reason to think it will have FIS or a hotel and it probably will not be built primarily for wide-bodies. 2 1/2 times the money 15 years later for less terminal?

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Re: DFW Airport

Postby Matt777 » 31 Jul 2019 17:02

Buffalo Wild Wings, Topgolf want to bring 'sports experience venue' to DFW Airport


https://www.wfaa.com/article/entertainm ... 2c1dca202b

Pretty cool. Along with the gaming lounge that recently opened, it would be nice to see more traveler amenities that turn DFW Airport into a destination itself. Singapore Airport has done an excellent job of this. With Terminal F on the horizon, some out of the box thinking on amenities would be welcome. Maybe an indoor garden area, movie theater, gym/spa, something to entertain kids, etc.. DFW already offers a nice passenger experience and is easy to connect through, but making it the premier hub with the best passenger experience in North America might take some creative thinking.

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Re: DFW Airport

Postby itsjrd1964 » 01 Aug 2019 09:12

DFW has decided to raise tolls/fees on those that are at the airport 8 minutes or less, to $6. Up to now, it has cost $4 if you were at the airport 8 minutes or less. The article says the airport is aiming primarily at those that just pass through the airport without a pickup or dropoff, and use DFW as a shortcut of sorts. The increase would begin Oct. 1.

No other toll/fee changes are currently being considered.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/dfw ... g-shortcut

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Re: DFW Airport

Postby Matt777 » 08 Aug 2019 13:35

American will start nonstop flights from DFW to Tel Aviv, Israel, starting in September 2020.

However, DFW will lose AA's seasonal service to Reykjavik, Iceland, which will move to their Philadelphia hub.

Hopefully Icelandair will come back with AA exiting the market.

More international announcements are expected next week. This will presumably include how AA's DFW-Tokyo flights will be alloted between Narita and Haneda, now that they have DFW-HND slots. Currently all DFW flights to Tokyo are routed to Narita airport.

https://onemileatatime.com/new-american ... -and-more/

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Re: DFW Airport

Postby Matt777 » 16 Aug 2019 14:46

Classic Anti-Competitive Behavior: With Other Airlines Gone, American Drops Dallas – Iceland Service Too


https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.co ... rvice-too/

Interesting article about anti-competitive behavior on the part of American Airlines at DFW Airport. It's a well known fact that AA wants to be the only choice DFW area customers have when it comes to international flying, which is one of the reasons we see less foreign carriers at DFW, less competition, and higher prices.

We went from 3 carriers on DFW-Iceland to zero. AA started their flight to kick out the Icelandic carriers, succeeded, and now "relocates" the flight to Philadelphia, guaranteeing their monopoly on the route and the chance to squeeze DFW customers for more money, while providing less comfort, amenities, and convenience.

American also added a second daily DFW-Paris flight after Air France announced their reentry to DFW, presumably to try and push them out to limit choice for DFW fliers. Air France is about to conclude their seasonal flight, so we will see if they choose to operate it again next year or if AA gets their way.

What they do is hard to prove as "illegal," and would likely never happen. However, Dallas and Fort Worth taxpayers do own DFW Airport, fund it, and assume any financial risk that comes with running the megahub for American Airlines. If we had a mayor who cared and wasn't put in power by big business (we do have that with Eric Johnson), I would love to see them lay down the law and tell American we are not going to let their monopoly cause higher airfares for Dallasites, less choice, and less international links that bring growth and global visibility to our city.

This could be accomplished by refusing to fund construction for the new Terminal F, or supporting actual Dallas-based Southwest Airlines in a complete reversal of any Wright Amendment restrictions on Love Field gate numbers, usage, and allowing international flights from Love.

But, this is all conjecture and will likely never happen. Being the kind of Mayor Eric Johnson is, I'm sure backs have been scratched and a deal has been worked out to protect AA at the expense of Dallasites.

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Re: DFW Airport

Postby tamtagon » 16 Aug 2019 19:35

Finding a way to increase competition at DFW International Airport is critical to the region's economy, but instead of suggesting 'we' refuse to fund Terminal F construction, how about funding Terminal F and G to make room for another carrier.

DFW could and should actively pursue the reestablishment of a Delta-SkyTeam hub.


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