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by Tucy
18 Jul 2018 11:31
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: North Dallas: Midtown
Replies: 121
Views: 16663

Re: North Dallas: Midtown

This isn't Becks rendering this is the site Sears owns and partnered to get redeveloped. Becks portion surrounds this property. Beck only owns parts of the mall not every department store site. Sears owned its parking and building so SEARs is partnering with developers around the country to redevel...
by Tucy
17 Jul 2018 16:37
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: West Dallas: Trinity Groves
Replies: 63
Views: 9820

Re: West Dallas: Trinity Groves

DPatel304 wrote:I'd say that theory has already been proven. Uptown started the revitalization, and that has spilled over into other parts of the urban core.


... helped along by hundreds of millions of dollars of subsidies.
by Tucy
16 Jul 2018 17:39
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Uptown Dallas: Marriott Uptown
Replies: 25
Views: 2276

Re: Uptown Dallas: Marriott Uptown

Fair points about Starwood. By my math, however, the only full service (i.e., offers convention space etc.) Marriott-Starwood hotels within the CBD are Westin and Sheraton. The others are mostly boutique hotels that aren't really oriented towards the convention market. Compare that to the CBD of an...
by Tucy
16 Jul 2018 14:26
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: Corporate Relocations/Expansions
Replies: 192
Views: 25156

Re: Corporate Relocations/Expansions

I realize Cypress Waters might as well not even be considered Dallas and the companies probably like the fact that it's surrounded by schools/homes that are NOT in Dallas, but it's still bringing jobs closer to Downtown (closer than they were in Plano) , and it is another bullet point for Dallas to...
by Tucy
16 Jul 2018 04:47
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: Corporate Relocations/Expansions
Replies: 192
Views: 25156

Re: Corporate Relocations/Expansions

You do understand that there isn’t a net change in jobs right? We paid them $4.8M to move across city borders which I believe is a dangerous precedent. These kinds of cross border moves happen all the time and have been doing so for about as long as I can remember, to be honest I really have to han...
by Tucy
12 Jul 2018 10:22
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DART D2 Subway
Replies: 167
Views: 18540

Re: DART D2 Subway

Just got this link to an update on DART projects today Buried in the description for the D2 subway is this: Although DART did not receive funding from the FTA, DART is currently reviewing potential funding sources to keep development of the D2 Subway on track. http://dartdallas.dart.org/2018/06/29/...
by Tucy
11 Jul 2018 12:19
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: West Fort Worth: Walsh Ranch
Replies: 9
Views: 474

Re: West Fort Worth: Walsh Ranch

As unsexy as it seems, it's most likely these large residential projects that make DFW so attractive in the first place. There are not many major urban areas (especially in the top 10 US metro areas *outside of Texas*), in which an average family can afford to purchase a home that large. While all ...
by Tucy
11 Jul 2018 08:13
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: AMLI Fountain Place (562 FT / 46 ST)
Replies: 303
Views: 55523

Re: Downtown Dallas: AMLI Fountain Place (562 FT / 46 ST)

Did they plan that garage anticipating the eventual construction of another office building and then failed to adjust when.an apartment building was built instead?

Or is there that much vacancy in the office building? Has the EPA already moved out, or perhaps they still park on area surface lots?
by Tucy
10 Jul 2018 10:14
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Museum Tower
Replies: 113
Views: 17951

Re: Museum Tower

Funny you would say this when earlier you told us that "Dallas has now become a place where the most expensive condos are as pricey as the most expensive house estates". Such diametrically opposed posts would cause a good deal of cognitive dissonance in most people. ;) I'll try to clarify...
by Tucy
10 Jul 2018 08:00
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: West Fort Worth: Walsh Ranch
Replies: 9
Views: 474

Re: West Fort Worth: Walsh Ranch

Workers are completing homes there at a pace of 1 per day. There have been 211 homes sold there in just over a year. https://www.star-telegram.com/news/business/growth/article214371559.html If they keep operating at that pace, they are going to build themselves a large supply of unsold homes. ;)
by Tucy
09 Jul 2018 17:47
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: AMLI Fountain Place (562 FT / 46 ST)
Replies: 303
Views: 55523

Re: Downtown Dallas: AMLI Fountain Place (562 FT / 46 ST)

Uh... You do realize there were over 11K ppl in DTD back in 2017 right? It's probably at or over 12K now with all the recently completed projects. Source? and what projects have been completed since the date of your 2017 population estimate? The best estimate we have is from our own DCH, who put th...
by Tucy
09 Jul 2018 10:29
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: AMLI Fountain Place (562 FT / 46 ST)
Replies: 303
Views: 55523

Re: Downtown Dallas: AMLI Fountain Place (562 FT / 46 ST)

Umm Austin has over 12000 residences downtown. Dallas has a long way to go. Uh... You do realize there were over 11K ppl in DTD back in 2017 right? It's probably at or over 12K now with all the recently completed projects. Source? and what projects have been completed since the date of your 2017 po...
by Tucy
05 Jul 2018 13:49
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Harwood Int'l District: Bleu Ciel (390 FT / 33 ST)
Replies: 127
Views: 25092

Re: Harwood Int'l District: Bleu Ciel (390 FT / 33 ST)

June 2018

3 units sold. 19 sold in 7 months. 139 remaining.
by Tucy
05 Jul 2018 13:47
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Museum Tower
Replies: 113
Views: 17951

Re: Museum Tower

June 2018

One unit sold.
96 sold in 67 months. (1.43 per month) 20 remaining.

Rolling 12-month sales: 15 (1.25 per month)

Sellout projection, based on the pace of sales thus far: 6 years, 9 months.
Sellout projection, based on the pace of sales over the prior 12 months: 6 years, 11 months.
by Tucy
03 Jul 2018 15:59
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: D Magazine New Urbanism Issue
Replies: 36
Views: 1376

Re: D Magazine New Urbanism Issue

How many of Dallas' (or Houston's ) suburbs have areas that meet that definition? Possibly not that many, but that is because they are still significantly under construction. Cityline for example has a very low park score component of its Walkscore because the major park is still under construction...
by Tucy
03 Jul 2018 15:56
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Victory Park 3.0
Replies: 303
Views: 41869

Re: Victory Park 3.0

Yeah, the assumption is that games drive traffic to businesses near the AAC but the exposure there does little for places like the Hard Rock. Its been proven time and time again in study after study stadiums rarely and almost never drive business to surrounding businesses except for parking revenue...
by Tucy
03 Jul 2018 12:36
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Victory Park 3.0
Replies: 303
Views: 41869

Re: Victory Park 3.0

Hard Rock chose the location they did because they wanted the street traffic along Continental and that very active traffic intersection. Until recently most of Victory Park has been deader than a doornail and burying themselves in the AA plaza buildings would not have been a good thing for them. T...
by Tucy
03 Jul 2018 12:20
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: D Magazine New Urbanism Issue
Replies: 36
Views: 1376

Re: D Magazine New Urbanism Issue

I'm not sure all the Dallas ones are listed, so the data may be bad and by 'bad' my guess would be the ones in DFW are too new. They list 9 for Dallas, with Uptown specifically being one - so just using named districts as approximations DFW has more than that. They also list Dallas proper as having...
by Tucy
03 Jul 2018 11:24
Forum: Suburban + Exurban Development
Topic: Legacy West
Replies: 249
Views: 34420

Re: Legacy West

exelone31 wrote:Kinda funny that this is even a headline-worthy story. Legacy West or CVS (or both) have some pretty strong PR ties.


You mean they have Steve Brown's email address? ;)
by Tucy
02 Jul 2018 11:34
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: 2000 Ross Project
Replies: 231
Views: 38373

Re: Downtown Dallas: 2000 Ross Project

Relevant to an up-thread discussion about whether apartments were being built faster than they are being absorbed: "Dallas-Fort Worth's net apartment leasing totaled 5,465 units in the second quarter. That sounds like a lot, but it's not enough. Developers completed almost 7,000 apartments in t...
by Tucy
02 Jul 2018 11:25
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Butler Brothers Building
Replies: 100
Views: 15458

Re: Downtown Dallas: Butler Brothers Building

The hotels are open! Any word on when the Butler Bros Building Cafe will open?
by Tucy
02 Jul 2018 10:50
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: D Magazine New Urbanism Issue
Replies: 36
Views: 1376

Re: D Magazine New Urbanism Issue

Hey everyone, I saw this week that D Magazine has been posting stories from their new "Dallas and the New Urbanism" issue https://www.dmagazine.com/tag/dallas-and-the-new-urbanism/ I haven't gone through everything yet, but it seems like there's a lot of really solid content, so I figured...
by Tucy
28 Jun 2018 13:10
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Museum Tower
Replies: 113
Views: 17951

Re: Museum Tower

A client of mine has rented a unit on floor 6- the views are great from "down low" as well! Her in building realtor said the top floor penthouse had sold & the sub penthouse was under contract for half the floor. His view of sales were not like Tucy's. Of course he's a in home realtor...
by Tucy
28 Jun 2018 13:01
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Museum Tower
Replies: 113
Views: 17951

Re: Museum Tower

In light of this morning's news that they have added a unit (the new 4202), I'm updating the status as of May 2018 One unit sold. 95 sold in 66 months. (1.44 per month) 21 remaining. Rolling 12-month sales: 14 (1.17 per month) Sellout projection, based on the pace of sales thus far: 6 years, 9 month...
by Tucy
28 Jun 2018 11:18
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Museum Tower
Replies: 113
Views: 17951

Re: Museum Tower

I just got an email from Museum Tower promoting the "Final Penthouse Opportunity". It turns out this final penthouse opportunity is unit #4202, a previously non-existent unit. 4202 is a half-floor penthouse.. Half of the previously-marketed 4201. So much for the fantasy of $20+ Million or ...
by Tucy
27 Jun 2018 18:14
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Arts District: Flora & Olive Tower (~441 FT / ~39 ST)
Replies: 152
Views: 24288

Re: Arts District: Flora & Olive Tower (~441 FT / ~39 ST)

Where will the artists lofts be located if they are coming later? That lot isnt huge, so I imagine theyd be built into the overall construction of the building, right? The article also mentions 41 floors, not the 39 that was mentioned in previous articles. Does anyone know if the actual height will...
by Tucy
26 Jun 2018 11:59
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Museum Tower
Replies: 113
Views: 17951

Re: Museum Tower

That there's an apartment in a troubled highrise listed at about the same price point, and that apartment sold is significant. The hyperbole in some of my booster club observations are gross to me too sometimes, but the threshold was crossed - an apartment sold for (probably) more than $10 million....
by Tucy
26 Jun 2018 11:37
Forum: The Airports
Topic: Meacham Airport
Replies: 8
Views: 319

Re: Meacham Airport

Sorry to continue this off-track, but the posts above spurred me to take a look at the county populations in the DFW metropolitan area. Dividing it by county lines, about 2 Million people live in the "North Dallas" area, outside of Dallas County (Denton, Collin, Rockwall and Hunt Counties)...
by Tucy
15 Jun 2018 10:33
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Lower Greenville Development
Replies: 42
Views: 4128

Re: Lower Greenville Development

jrd1964 wrote:How do you have a small-format Sam's (or even Costco for that matter)? Only the best-selling items and the rest have to be delivered/ordered? SMH.....


More or less, I would imagine. Not unlike the small-format Targets.
by Tucy
13 Jun 2018 12:17
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: The Drever
Replies: 292
Views: 42608

Re: Downtown Dallas: The Drever

Bisnow, above, says it was once the "Hunt Oil Building". I understand Hunt Oil once officed in the building, but it was never named the Hunt Oil Building, was it?
by Tucy
13 Jun 2018 12:10
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Museum Tower
Replies: 113
Views: 17951

Re: Museum Tower

...the point being that there is a viable sub-market of million+ dollar condos. North Texas does not have many intown home estates selling for more than ten million. If that was your point, it's odd you would write what you did. What you did write is simply, objectively false. What you now claim wa...
by Tucy
13 Jun 2018 11:13
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: The Drever
Replies: 292
Views: 42608

Re: Downtown Dallas: The Drever

The article doesn't make me feel any more confident about the project. Their announcement to investors amounts to almost nothing we didn't already know, besides finally acknowledging that work has stopped on the project. "We gave final approval..." but they won't elaborate on any details....
by Tucy
13 Jun 2018 10:07
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Museum Tower
Replies: 113
Views: 17951

Re: Museum Tower

OMG someone bought the top floor?!?! was the selling price published? Crazy to believe it, but Dallas has now become a place where the most expensive condos are as pricey as the most expensive house estates. With Museum Tower approaching 90% sold, and the Ritz finally putting it's most expensive un...
by Tucy
13 Jun 2018 09:02
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Museum Tower
Replies: 113
Views: 17951

Re: Museum Tower

A client of mine has rented a unit on floor 6- the views are great from "down low" as well! Her in building realtor said the top floor penthouse had sold & the sub penthouse was under contract for half the floor. His view of sales were not like Tucy's. Of course he's a in home realtor...
by Tucy
12 Jun 2018 15:12
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Harwood Int'l District: Bleu Ciel (390 FT / 33 ST)
Replies: 127
Views: 25092

Re: Harwood Int'l District: Bleu Ciel (390 FT / 33 ST)

May 2018

5 units sold. 16 sold in 6 months. 142 remaining.
by Tucy
12 Jun 2018 15:08
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Museum Tower
Replies: 113
Views: 17951

Re: Museum Tower

May 2018

One unit sold.
95 sold in 66 months. (1.44 per month) 20 remaining.

Rolling 12-month sales: 14 (1.17 per month)

Sellout projection, based on the pace of sales thus far: 6 years, 8 months.
by Tucy
12 Jun 2018 13:40
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Grocery Stores: news/development
Replies: 70
Views: 9512

Re: Grocery Stores: news/development

Interestingly, there is yet another chain of Tom Thumb convenience stores besides the ones formerly owned by Kroger. A family-owned chain in South Florida, Ft Lauderdale to Key West.
by Tucy
29 May 2018 18:08
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: The Cedars: Texas Odyssey
Replies: 18
Views: 1097

Re: The Cedars: Texas Odyssey

"Our vision for the iconic Texas Odyssey is for it to be a seamlessly integrated part of downtown Dallas" LOL
I presume they mean "seamlessly integrated" in some metaphysical sense.
by Tucy
28 May 2018 07:58
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Butler Brothers Building
Replies: 100
Views: 15458

Re: Downtown Dallas: Butler Brothers Building

That's funny, the hotel sites I found say May. Whenever they do, hopefully things will go well. https://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/dalty-fairfield-inn-and-suites-dallas-downtown/ https://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/daltx-towneplace-suites-dallas-downtown/ I saw that too. But when you go to t...
by Tucy
25 May 2018 13:12
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Butler Brothers Building
Replies: 100
Views: 15458

Re: Downtown Dallas: Butler Brothers Building

It appears the hotels are actually going to open in mid-June! (2018; especially in the case of this building, it's important to specify a year.)
by Tucy
24 May 2018 11:36
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: New Census Population Estimates
Replies: 72
Views: 9285

Re: New Census Population Estimates

I found the following link of 2018 U.S. city population figures. I can't tell if this states if this data is according to the U.S. Census Bureau. http://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities/ It is not U.S. Census. There will not be 2018 city population figures available from the U.S. Census until th...
by Tucy
22 May 2018 13:09
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DART D2 Subway
Replies: 167
Views: 18540

Re: DART D2 Subway

Not sure how I missed these renderings of D2 stations from a year ago... I'm sure most of you have already seen them, but just in case you haven't, here they are. http://dallascityhall.com/departments/pnv/Documents/D2%20Progress%205.2017_UDPRP%20Submittal.pdf It is interesting how both portals (Nor...
by Tucy
22 May 2018 13:07
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: The Drever
Replies: 292
Views: 42608

Re: Downtown Dallas: The Drever

The difference is that LTV Tower and the Statler were planned to do that. The developer who cleaned about both of those properties was known for cleaning out buildings and flipping them to a finishing developer. Here the Drever people intended to actually finish the job but continue to fail to do s...
by Tucy
22 May 2018 10:14
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DART D2 Subway
Replies: 167
Views: 18540

Re: DART D2 Subway

Building on some earlier comments, couldn't DART address their "congestion" issues quite easily and for probably at least $1.3 Billion less money by sending only some of each lines trains through the transit mall and turning others back to provide more service on each end of each line? As...
by Tucy
22 May 2018 09:14
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DART D2 Subway
Replies: 167
Views: 18540

Re: DART D2 Subway

Building on some earlier comments, couldn't DART address their "congestion" issues quite easily and for probably at least $1.3 Billion less money by sending only some of each lines trains through the transit mall and turning others back to provide more service on each end of each line? As ...
by Tucy
22 May 2018 09:01
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: The Drever
Replies: 292
Views: 42608

Re: Downtown Dallas: The Drever

The difference is that LTV Tower and the Statler were planned to do that. The developer who cleaned about both of those properties was known for cleaning out buildings and flipping them to a finishing developer. Here the Drever people intended to actually finish the job but continue to fail to do s...
by Tucy
21 May 2018 14:13
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Retail
Replies: 199
Views: 26193

Re: Downtown Dallas: Retail

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/retail/2018/05/21/forty-five-ten-changing-downtown-dallas-store-boost-walk-traffic-after-less-two-years With Tenoversix moving over to Forty Five Ten, what are they going to do with the current Tenoversix space? They are also apparently converting the third floor...
by Tucy
20 May 2018 09:00
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: Downtown Progress
Replies: 88
Views: 12039

Re: Downtown Progress

^ So, the five year estimate looks for about 10,000 new residents a year in the Greater Downtown Dallas Area.... that data does follow the trend of the past decade, and considering contemporary housing complexes hold twice or a little more residents than the two-generation garden apartments current...

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