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by Tucy
08 Dec 2019 12:13
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Arts District: Flora & Olive Tower (~441 FT / ~39 ST)
Replies: 275
Views: 119349

Re: Arts District: Flora & Olive Tower (~441 FT / ~39 ST)

For the 500,000 resident population, I'm thinking inside Loop 12, broadly. Any idea of what the current population of that area might be? I would hope it would already be close to or above 500,000. EDIT: I just looked up the numbers. As of the 2010 census, the population inside Loop 12 was already ...
by Tucy
08 Dec 2019 10:23
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Arts District: Flora & Olive Tower (~441 FT / ~39 ST)
Replies: 275
Views: 119349

Re: Arts District: Flora & Olive Tower (~441 FT / ~39 ST)

^Totally agree with that, but residential units in the greater downtown area - CBD, East Dallas, Oak Lawn/Uptown, West Dallas, Oak Cliff, South Dallas/Cedars - has increased steadily for years now and shows no sign whatsoever of coming to the end of "a cycle." These taller residential bui...
by Tucy
05 Dec 2019 19:44
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: Fair Park
Replies: 90
Views: 28225

Re: Fair Park

I apparently missed the news that the First Responder Bowl moved out of the Cotton Bowl Stadium, after the City just last year agreed to large subsidies to keep the game at the Cotton Bowl. (It's being played at the Geral J Ford Stadium on SMU's campus this year. At least the 9 or 10,000 people won'...
by Tucy
05 Dec 2019 12:29
Forum: Suburban + Exurban Issues/News
Topic: What is a suburb today?
Replies: 67
Views: 29041

Re: What is a suburb today?

That is a leap not warranted by the data. But, assuming you are correct, the number desiring to live in the "urban core" would be 600,000 (12% of the Dallas/Plano/Irving metropolitan division population of 5 Million), not just 156,000. (But to be clear, the survey does NOT suggest that to...
by Tucy
05 Dec 2019 10:34
Forum: Suburban + Exurban Issues/News
Topic: What is a suburb today?
Replies: 67
Views: 29041

Re: What is a suburb today?

You cannot draw that conclusion from this survey. The survey didn't ask anything about a desire to live in an "urban core". It only asked if people desired to live in a -big city -small city -suburb of a big city -suburb of a small city -town or -rural area. I think you can because that i...
by Tucy
05 Dec 2019 09:30
Forum: Suburban + Exurban Issues/News
Topic: What is a suburb today?
Replies: 67
Views: 29041

Re: What is a suburb today?

If you take that number to be true, then 156,000 want to live in the urban core of Dallas, which is still more than currently do. You cannot draw that conclusion from this survey. The survey didn't ask anything about a desire to live in an "urban core". It only asked if people desired to ...
by Tucy
04 Dec 2019 13:42
Forum: The Airports
Topic: DFW Airport
Replies: 222
Views: 71821

Re: DFW Airport

Apparently the Tel Aviv route is starting off strong. It was originally scheduled for 3 flights/week. They haven't even started service yet and AA has already doubled it to 6 flights/week. I think that was an erroneously published schedule... or something. It seems they are back to 3x weekly. https...
by Tucy
04 Dec 2019 12:03
Forum: The Airports
Topic: DFW Airport
Replies: 222
Views: 71821

Re: DFW Airport

The DBJ looks at the top 10 international destinations not served non-stop from DFW. Interesting list, but apparently all require a connecting flight from here. https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news/2019/11/12/dfw-airport-international-routes.html Very interesting. None of those unserved markets ...
by Tucy
03 Dec 2019 18:38
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Arts District: Hall Arts Hotel & Residences
Replies: 229
Views: 94002

Re: Arts District: Hall Arts Hotel & Residences

Tnexster wrote:And how much are these rooms?


Hotels.com shows rooms for 2 ranging from $209 to $337/night during December and January.
by Tucy
02 Dec 2019 10:27
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Harwood Int'l District: Bleu Ciel (390 FT / 33 ST)
Replies: 167
Views: 78283

Re: Harwood Int'l District: Bleu Ciel (390 FT / 33 ST)

November 2019

1 unit sold. 65 sold in 24 months (2.708 per month) 93 remaining.

Sell-out projection: 4 years, 11 months.
by Tucy
02 Dec 2019 10:23
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Museum Tower
Replies: 188
Views: 79932

Re: Museum Tower

November 2019 One sold. 108 sold in 7 years. (1.286 per month) 6 remaining. Rolling 12-month sales: 8 (.667 per month) Sellout projection, based on the pace of sales thus far: 7 years, 5 months. Sellout projection, based on the 12-month pace of sales: 7 years, 9 months. They have sold 6 in CY 2019.
by Tucy
02 Dec 2019 08:49
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: Corporate Relocations/Expansions
Replies: 409
Views: 110616

Re: Corporate Relocations/Expansions

/\ I think that's right. I think the bulk of the job shift out of San Francisco has already occurred and has been underway for several years.
by Tucy
20 Nov 2019 16:07
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DALLAS to HOUSTON High Speed Rail
Replies: 366
Views: 127495

Re: DALLAS to HOUSTON High Speed Rail

New renderings of the three HSR stations are out today:

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Newes ... 35412.html
by Tucy
14 Nov 2019 11:00
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Turtle Creek : 2999 Turtle Creek Blvd
Replies: 47
Views: 12147

Re: Turtle Creek : 2999 Turtle Creek Blvd

jetnd87 wrote:Even with the CEO of Mandarin Oriental's announcement?


Yes, even with the CEO of Mandarin Oriental's feel-good press release.
by Tucy
14 Nov 2019 10:33
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Turtle Creek : 2999 Turtle Creek Blvd
Replies: 47
Views: 12147

Re: Turtle Creek : 2999 Turtle Creek Blvd

So is the building that currently sits here being razed? I'm happy to have more dense development here, but this is actually a pretty lovely looking building. Apparently so, at least according to Steve Brown: "Announced last fall, the Turtle Creek tower will replace a 9-year-old office buildin...
by Tucy
13 Nov 2019 11:18
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Uptown: Dual Brand Hilton Tower / Oak Grove & Hall
Replies: 22
Views: 2579

Re: Uptown: Dual Brand Hilton Tower / Oak Grove & Hall

Motto is one of Hilton's newest brands. Spark is not listed on their website, but according to a bit more digging, Hilton has been testing aspects of Spark at various Doubletree properties in other cities (not here). They don't come out and say that any or all of those Doubletree hotels will flip t...
by Tucy
12 Nov 2019 08:59
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: TexRail
Replies: 124
Views: 35755

Re: TexRail

February 2019 ridership: 32,998
March 2019: 39,093
April 2019: 33,589
May 2019: 35,878
June 2019: 39,154
July 2019: 41,818
August 2019: 42,637
September 2019: 43,757
by Tucy
05 Nov 2019 16:47
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Hillwood Urban's ~50 storey tower on former BoA motorcourt
Replies: 187
Views: 65556

Re: Downtown Dallas: Hillwood Urban's ~50 storey tower on former BoA motorcourt

"They should aim for making it the tallest building West of the Mississippi River. Dallas' tallest have traditionally held this title. We need to reclaim that title once again. And without a cheater spire!" If that was ever truly the case, it was a very long time ago. It has been 50 years...
by Tucy
04 Nov 2019 12:38
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Harwood Int'l District: Bleu Ciel (390 FT / 33 ST)
Replies: 167
Views: 78283

Re: Harwood Int'l District: Bleu Ciel (390 FT / 33 ST)

Tnexster wrote:So the sellout projection continues to grow as the months tick by.


Yeah. I'm a little surprised at how slowly this one is selling. I guess Dallas's high-rise market is really still not ready for prime time.
by Tucy
04 Nov 2019 10:54
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Harwood Int'l District: Bleu Ciel (390 FT / 33 ST)
Replies: 167
Views: 78283

Re: Harwood Int'l District: Bleu Ciel (390 FT / 33 ST)

October 2019

1 unit sold. 64 sold in 23 months (2.783 per month) 94 remaining.

Sell-out projection: 4 years, 9 months.
by Tucy
04 Nov 2019 10:49
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Museum Tower
Replies: 188
Views: 79932

Re: Museum Tower

October 2019 Zero sold. 107 sold in 83 months. (1.289 per month) 7 remaining. Rolling 12-month sales: 7 (.583 per month) Sellout projection, based on the pace of sales thus far: 7 years, 5 months. Sellout projection, based on the 12-month pace of sales: 7 years, 11 months. FWIW, they have sold 5 in ...
by Tucy
30 Oct 2019 10:51
Forum: The Bus + Roads/Highways/Bridges
Topic: I-30 South & East Dallas reconstruction
Replies: 112
Views: 33140

Re: I-30 South & East Dallas reconstruction

I can't see the whole article (paywall), but before it blacks out I was able to read that the project reduces the highway's footprint. Looking at the documents I can find on line, the only footprint reduction I see is the removal of the Cesar Chavez ramps. Is that what they are referring to? (It doe...
by Tucy
22 Oct 2019 11:48
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DALLAS to HOUSTON High Speed Rail
Replies: 366
Views: 127495

Re: DALLAS to HOUSTON High Speed Rail

Glad to see this moving along but still painfull that it will only take you to the perimeter of Houston and not directly downtown. I wonder if there is any chance that there could be a future extension from the perimeter to downtown. I'm sure if it was the other way around, there would many promine...
by Tucy
17 Oct 2019 13:09
Forum: Texas Urban/Suburban/Exurban Development
Topic: Houston Development News
Replies: 8
Views: 2633

Re: Houston Development News

Occidental bought out Woodlands-based Anadarko and now has a 1,600,000+ square foot campus there in addition to 960,000 square feet it leases in Greenway Plaza and 1,400,000 in West Houston's Energy Corridor. It has had 750,000 of the Greenway space up for sublease for a year, pending plans to move...
by Tucy
13 Oct 2019 07:44
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Northpark Center
Replies: 551
Views: 192873

Re: Northpark Center

Dfwn2n wrote:When are they going to expand the second level? They keep talking about it.


Other than people in this forum, who keeps talking about it?
by Tucy
11 Oct 2019 15:20
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Arts District: Flora & Olive Tower (~441 FT / ~39 ST)
Replies: 275
Views: 119349

Re: Arts District: Flora & Olive Tower (~441 FT / ~39 ST)

Oh, the website for the property says 41. So it does. This is not the first time a developer has exaggerated on their website. ;-) There is no 13th floor, so while their plans show a "41st" floor, it is in reality only the 40th floor. Plus, they seem to do some funny counting on the base ...
by Tucy
11 Oct 2019 13:47
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Arts District: Flora & Olive Tower (~441 FT / ~39 ST)
Replies: 275
Views: 119349

Re: Arts District: Flora & Olive Tower (~441 FT / ~39 ST)

R1070 wrote:Are they on the 13th level?
It will be 41 floors.


Pretty sure the building will be 39 stories.
by Tucy
07 Oct 2019 14:10
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: DFW Economy
Replies: 281
Views: 91833

Re: DFW Economy

The latest Census Bureau statistics, and the latest Ft. Worth Star Telegram article, confirm in fact that seems to have become reality. To wit: "But a large number of Fort Worth residents — nearly 192,000 people — still leaves the city for work, Census data shows. Between 2005-14, the percenta...
by Tucy
05 Oct 2019 15:25
Forum: The Parks, Trails, + Miscellaneous Infrastructure
Topic: Downtown - Pacific Plaza Park
Replies: 203
Views: 55050

Re: Downtown - Pacific Plaza Park

CAIN JOHN CHARLES PO BOX 987 ATHENS, TEXAS 757510987 aka The Cain Foundation https://www.gordonacainfoundation.org/ The Gordon A. Cain Foundation is a non-profit philanthropic organization incorporated in the State of Texas in 2007. It was founded to provide financial support to charitable organiza...
by Tucy
03 Oct 2019 13:07
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Northpark Center
Replies: 551
Views: 192873

Re: Northpark Center

R1070 wrote:I believe Etoile is sold at Stanley Korshak. It must not have many if any brick & mortar locations.


It appears that this will be their first location. They are a Dallas company that launched not quite two years ago.
by Tucy
03 Oct 2019 12:57
Forum: The Parks, Trails, + Miscellaneous Infrastructure
Topic: Downtown - Pacific Plaza Park
Replies: 203
Views: 55050

Re: Downtown - Pacific Plaza Park

That parking lot is owned by a family fund out of Houston who uses the money they make on parking to donate to charities down there. Hopefully, the right developer will come along and talk them out of parking revenue and into property development value profits. DCAD says it (the parking lot overloo...
by Tucy
03 Oct 2019 11:24
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Northpark Center
Replies: 551
Views: 192873

Re: Northpark Center

by Tucy
03 Oct 2019 10:07
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Harwood Int'l District: Bleu Ciel (390 FT / 33 ST)
Replies: 167
Views: 78283

Re: Harwood Int'l District: Bleu Ciel (390 FT / 33 ST)

September 2019

1 unit sold. 63 sold in 22 months (2.864 per month) 95 remaining.

Sell-out projection: 4 years, 8 months.
by Tucy
03 Oct 2019 10:05
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Museum Tower
Replies: 188
Views: 79932

Re: Museum Tower

September 2019

One sold.

107 sold in 82 months. (1.305 per month) 7 remaining.
Rolling 12-month sales: 7 (.583 per month)

Sellout projection, based on the pace of sales thus far: 7 years, 4 months.
Sellout projection, based on the 12-month pace of sales: 7 years, 10 months.
by Tucy
27 Sep 2019 08:22
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: DFW Economy
Replies: 281
Views: 91833

Re: DFW Economy

If WeWork's model doesn't work, some office owners are in trouble https://www.dallasnews.com/business/real-estate/2019/09/27/if-wework-s-model-doesn-t-work-some-office-owners-are-in-trouble/ This story has been brewing for a while, but I'm glad Steve Brown finally wrote about it from a local perspe...
by Tucy
25 Sep 2019 12:21
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Dallas Smart District
Replies: 120
Views: 40372

Re: Dallas Smart District

BTW, when did KDC get involved? They always make future developments more promising with their experience and know how. I could also see them starting with residential. It seems to be a sector that is bulletproof in Dallas. ( at least the rental part of it) KDC has been involved since the first pub...
by Tucy
24 Sep 2019 10:29
Forum: The Airports
Topic: DFW Airport
Replies: 222
Views: 71821

Re: DFW Airport

At its September meeting the DFW Airport Board had on its agenda, and presumably approved an increase in the contract for Terminal F Phase 1 - Construction Manager at Risk, in an amount not to exceed $62,634,577.00, for a revised Contract amount of $132,745,984.00. According to the agenda item, &quo...
by Tucy
21 Sep 2019 09:08
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: TexRail
Replies: 124
Views: 35755

Re: TexRail

Any particular reason why were seeing growth? Does anyone know if companies are providing passes to employees? This certainly is an encouraging trend. And in the meantime, DARTS orange line train to and from DFW is virtually empty at all times, which is very discouraging. 95% of the people I talk t...
by Tucy
18 Sep 2019 10:41
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Harwood Int'l District: Bleu Ciel (390 FT / 33 ST)
Replies: 167
Views: 78283

Re: Harwood Int'l District: Bleu Ciel (390 FT / 33 ST)

August 2019

1 unit sold. 62 sold in 21 months (2.95 per month) 96 remaining.

Sell-out projection: 4 years, 6 months.
by Tucy
18 Sep 2019 09:36
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: TexRail
Replies: 124
Views: 35755

Re: TexRail

February 2019 ridership: 32,998
March 2019: 39,093
April 2019: 33,589
May 2019: 35,878
June 2019: 39,154
July 2019: 41,818
by Tucy
16 Sep 2019 13:12
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Museum Tower
Replies: 188
Views: 79932

Re: Museum Tower

August 2019

Zero sold.

106 sold in 81 months. (1.309 per month) 8 remaining.
Rolling 12-month sales: 6 (.5 per month)

Sellout projection, based on the pace of sales thus far: 7 years, 4 months.
Sellout projection, based on the 12-month pace of sales: 8 years, 1 month.
by Tucy
21 Aug 2019 08:37
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Dallas Area Rapid Transit
Replies: 298
Views: 89820

Re: Dallas Area Rapid Transit

Cbdallas wrote:Would love to know of the other large cities in the US that use open pay open access like DART or those that use a closed pay to enter system. Pros and Cons of both.


I think most light rail systems are open pay open access.
by Tucy
21 Aug 2019 08:34
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Deep Ellum: Epic ~ Knights of Pythias Temple
Replies: 498
Views: 144803

Re: Deep Ellum: Epic ~ Knights of Pythias Temple

Local transportation officials have sought to sweeten the deal, too. Michael Morris, the director of transportation for the North Central Texas Council of Governments, proposed committing $10 million to $15 million to improve transportation in and around Uber’s office. Among the ideas, he suggested...
by Tucy
14 Aug 2019 10:55
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Deep Ellum 1.0
Replies: 629
Views: 209276

Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

There are major fights every weekend on 6th street, but they are always just drunken brawls that are broken up by the mounted police (lol.) and it's almost part of the party vibe. If Deep Ellum is actually experiencing violent crime on a weekly basis, especially ones involving gunfire, then we have...
by Tucy
12 Aug 2019 13:47
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Deep Ellum: Epic ~ Knights of Pythias Temple
Replies: 498
Views: 144803

Re: Deep Ellum: Epic ~ Knights of Pythias Temple

Do we have any idea what other cities might be in the running for the 3,000 Uber jobs?
by Tucy
07 Aug 2019 13:46
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Harwood Int'l District: Bleu Ciel (390 FT / 33 ST)
Replies: 167
Views: 78283

Re: Harwood Int'l District: Bleu Ciel (390 FT / 33 ST)

July 2019

2 units sold. 61 sold in 20 months (3.05 per month) 97 remaining.

Sell-out projection: 4 years, 4 months.
by Tucy
07 Aug 2019 13:42
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Museum Tower
Replies: 188
Views: 79932

Re: Museum Tower

July 2019

Zero sold.

106 sold in 80 months. (1.325 per month) 8 remaining.
Rolling 12-month sales: 6 (.5 per month)

Sellout projection, based on the pace of sales thus far: 7 years, 3 months.
Sellout projection, based on the 12-month pace of sales: 8 years.
by Tucy
28 Jul 2019 09:02
Forum: The Bus + Roads/Highways/Bridges
Topic: DART: Bus system
Replies: 32
Views: 9881

Re: DART: Bus system

Our million-dollar bus doesn't add up. We did the math https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/editorials/2019/07/22/million-dollar-bus-doesnt-add-math The busses are overpriced and we should have done better... but this article is very poorly researched and written. It goes on to factor 'upkeep' of the...
by Tucy
18 Jul 2019 13:21
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: AT&T Discovery District
Replies: 238
Views: 79793

Re: AT&T Discovery District

This looks really cool and may indeed be a game-changer. It might be nit-picking, but is anyone else a bit troubled by the placement of the giant screen with relation to the trees? The trees seem to do a really good job of blocking views of the giant screen.
by Tucy
15 Jul 2019 15:41
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: DD: 1401 Elm and Thompson Hotel
Replies: 495
Views: 178995

Re: Downtown Dallas: The Drever

Does anyone recall what their current completion deadline is (per their subsidy agreement with the City of Dallas)?

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