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by TNWE
23 Sep 2020 15:24
Forum: The Airports
Topic: McKinney National Airport
Replies: 9
Views: 4143

Re: McKinney National Airport

I see the Pandemic as even more of a reason why WN or others will look to TKI. Its opening a new market. WN just announced service to MIA simply due to chasing new business. Having an airport close enough to capture passengers from the NE DFW Metro or Southern Oklahoma, people who might fly in to s...
by TNWE
18 Sep 2020 14:11
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Silver Line
Replies: 345
Views: 154451

Re: Silver Line

A second shipment of new rail has been received. It appears that it was unloaded at the same spot as the first shipment, between Marsh and Surveyor. This link describes other progress on the project. https://www.dart.org/news/news.asp?ID=1524 I don't recall previous DART projects having even one, m...
by TNWE
18 Sep 2020 13:24
Forum: The Airports
Topic: McKinney National Airport
Replies: 9
Views: 4143

Re: McKinney National Airport

I see something like Allegiant going there. With all the growth in Collin County, especially families, destinations to places like FL or others that Allegiant serves would be ideal. Yeah, they're the only major (in the sense they serve airports nationwide) airline that doesn't have a footprint in t...
by TNWE
15 Sep 2020 15:52
Forum: The Airports
Topic: DFW Airport
Replies: 265
Views: 119988

Re: DFW Airport

LAX us loaded up with airlines, competition that makes airfare lower... so AA is moving some operation to DFW to make more money. Watch airfare at DFW begin to creep back up, rising above the industry average like it was before Love Field was mostly deregulated. That's not how airfare pricing works...
by TNWE
09 Sep 2020 11:06
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: DFW Economy
Replies: 414
Views: 167195

Re: DFW Economy

https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news/2020/09/08/north-texas-technology-jobs.html Dallas ranks #3 for tech jobs behind NYC and DC (per this source). Obviously a grain of salt given SF is #5 here. Might be a classification issue if San Jose and/or the Valley is a separate entry in the list (can't ...
by TNWE
01 Sep 2020 10:01
Forum: Suburban + Exurban Development
Topic: Plano: misc. developments
Replies: 48
Views: 17127

Re: Plano: misc. developments

So far, DART has retained bus access to the remaining (JCPenney) part of Collin Creek. The #870 goes out/back from the Downtown Plano station, to Collin Creek westbound, and neighborhoods along 14th, 18th, and Shiloh eastbound. So there is still connection there, but it will interesting to see how ...
by TNWE
31 Aug 2020 12:01
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Silver Line
Replies: 345
Views: 154451

Re: Silver Line

To my surprise, the law in question was changed in 2013. Read https://www.transit.dot.gov/funding/grants/grant-programs/art-and-non-functional-landscaping-federally-funded-public-transit To keep it simple as much as possible, classic art like statues are now prohibited, but art like functional desi...
by TNWE
28 Aug 2020 11:11
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Silver Line
Replies: 345
Views: 154451

Re: Silver Line

That Shiloh Road station rendering looks like a hidden level in GoldenEye or something. Kind of hilarious, but I suppose a kitschy theme isn't the worst thing. I have a feeling the UTD Station is going to be heavily utilized. I really hate that DART feels compelled to make each station have a uniqu...
by TNWE
27 Aug 2020 15:00
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Silver Line
Replies: 345
Views: 154451

Re: Silver Line

That Shiloh Road station rendering looks like a hidden level in GoldenEye or something. Kind of hilarious, but I suppose a kitschy theme isn't the worst thing. I have a feeling the UTD Station is going to be heavily utilized. I really hate that DART feels compelled to make each station have a uniqu...
by TNWE
14 Aug 2020 11:42
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Silver Line
Replies: 345
Views: 154451

Re: Silver Line

A second shipment of new rail has been received. It appears that it was unloaded at the same spot as the first shipment, between Marsh and Surveyor. This link describes other progress on the project. https://www.dart.org/news/news.asp?ID=1524 I don't recall previous DART projects having even one, m...
by TNWE
13 Aug 2020 15:28
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Dallas Area Rapid Transit
Replies: 364
Views: 154783

Re: Dallas Area Rapid Transit

DART has begun placing sanitizer and mask dispensers on every light rail train and streetcar. The picture shows the dispensers mounted near an entrance. https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2020/08/12/dart-free-face-masks-hand-sanitizer-riders-coronavirus-pandemic/ Curious how long that will last- bus operator...
by TNWE
06 Aug 2020 16:40
Forum: Suburban + Exurban Development
Topic: Richardson Telecom Corridor Development Updates
Replies: 30
Views: 14650

Re: Richardson Telecom Corridor Development Updates

Now that the apartment near the Galatyn Train Station is almost complete, a builder wants to finish out the empty plot nearest the station with another complex. The zoning will need to change because it's set for a office building there, and they need a small increase in the max number of units in ...
by TNWE
06 Aug 2020 15:54
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Arts District: Flora & Olive Tower (~441 FT / ~39 ST)
Replies: 485
Views: 214632

Re: Arts District: Flora & Olive Tower (~441 FT / ~39 ST)

Here’s a simple observation (and it’s something that’s perplexed me since I’ve been following the forum). On the website’s landing page, there are multiple categories, including two for “issues” discussions (urban and suburban) and two for “development” discussions (again, urban and suburban). I ce...
by TNWE
04 Aug 2020 15:57
Forum: The Airports
Topic: DFW Airport
Replies: 265
Views: 119988

Re: DFW Airport

Regardless of any capacity constraints in Terminal D, American has always and no doubt will always have international departures from all terminals. There are good operational reasons to do so and no reason not to. For example, today's schedule shows international departures from Terminals A, B, C ...
by TNWE
04 Aug 2020 15:30
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Arts District: Flora & Olive Tower (~441 FT / ~39 ST)
Replies: 485
Views: 214632

Re: Arts District: Flora & Olive Tower (~441 FT / ~39 ST)

After living in Austin for a decade, I think these comparisons with downtown Austin idealize the place too much. Much of Austin's downtown is pretty dead most days. In my experience people who live in Austin suburbs who don't work there go downtown no more often than people in Dallas suburbs- hardl...
by TNWE
03 Aug 2020 22:35
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Field Street District
Replies: 51
Views: 10761

Re: Downtown Dallas: Field Street District

Won't you have to cross two frontage roads and a loud underpass to reach the transit for this TOD? McKinney and Broom streets aren't really "frontage roads" at that point (Frontage road to me implies a mix of traffic entering/exiting the freeway at 45+ mph), just 25 mph city streets with ...
by TNWE
03 Aug 2020 10:36
Forum: The Airports
Topic: DFW Airport
Replies: 265
Views: 119988

Re: DFW Airport

"The airport has postponed the planned 24-gate facility “indefinitely” because of a drop in flyer numbers" Not unexpected, but still disappointing. https://thepointsguy.com/news/dfw-terminal-f-american-airlines-coronavirus/ Wasn't there a similar delay of Terminal D amid 9/11-related cuts...
by TNWE
30 Jul 2020 13:40
Forum: Suburban + Exurban Development
Topic: Las Colinas/North Irving Development
Replies: 1094
Views: 436023

Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

Looks like they will be occupying about the same total square footage, in one location rather than two (or more). It's a building with massive infrastructure... airplane resistent structure, hundreds of thousands of gallons of diesel fuel and water storage underground... It was built as a 90's data...
by TNWE
30 Jul 2020 11:29
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: DFW Economy
Replies: 414
Views: 167195

Re: DFW Economy

I've heard CRE people contend that companies will be seeking more real estate moving forward and not less, to accommodate employee spacing/distancing and such, but I'm still not buying it. At some point, employers will pull their employees back into the office. The idea that white-collar managerial...
by TNWE
30 Jul 2020 10:09
Forum: Suburban + Exurban Development
Topic: Las Colinas/North Irving Development
Replies: 1094
Views: 436023

Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

Well now we know the Fortune 500 company moving into 1925 W John Carpenter FRWY. Vistra Energy is relocating the space, so just a move within the Las Colinas area. I'm glad to see someone take this building though. I've always liked it! https://www.dallasnews.com/business/real-estate/2020/07/29/for...
by TNWE
27 Jul 2020 09:43
Forum: Suburban + Exurban Development
Topic: Las Colinas/North Irving Development
Replies: 1094
Views: 436023

Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

Any word on upgrades to the APM system? I seem to recall some rumblings late last year about a request for proposal going out to overhaul/automate/replace the people mover system.
by TNWE
22 Jul 2020 11:42
Forum: Suburban + Exurban Issues/News
Topic: What is a suburb today?
Replies: 75
Views: 44717

Re: What is a suburb today?

^ What makes you think they're embarrassed by it? The 25-35 demo (which I am a part of, but don't buy into the mindset) on social media is all about making a big show of rejecting "boomer" lifestyle and painting it as decadent and uncouth. As they've gotten older, I've started to see more...
by TNWE
22 Jul 2020 11:23
Forum: Suburban + Exurban Issues/News
Topic: What is a suburb today?
Replies: 75
Views: 44717

Re: What is a suburb today?

lol at the thought that millennials are clamoring for $500k-750k+ priced homes when they can barely afford the $250k market. 95% of threads on this forum focus on residential, office, and retail/dining projects targeted at Millennials in the top income quartile. You don't get to turn around and dis...
by TNWE
21 Jul 2020 11:27
Forum: Suburban + Exurban Issues/News
Topic: What is a suburb today?
Replies: 75
Views: 44717

Re: What is a suburb today?

I can confirm that with apartment leasing almost every person who has moved out in the last two months has been to buy a home. Only a few ended their leases to go stay with family due to job loss. Most are couples and chased homes as fast as the could get one under contract. I will say though it's ...
by TNWE
20 Jul 2020 11:38
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Knox / Henderson - Knox Street Side
Replies: 411
Views: 197940

Re: Knox / Henderson - Knox Street Side

The recent trend for outdoor shopping internationally - especially in Europe where it never disappeared because air conditioning was not needed - in my humble opinion is the result of non smoking laws which chased the smokers outside. That's the main reason why malls are not as popular today. The s...
by TNWE
17 Jul 2020 16:13
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Knox / Henderson - Knox Street Side
Replies: 411
Views: 197940

Re: Knox / Henderson - Knox Street Side

Covid has been hard on retail. You can thank the arbitrary restrictions early on that permitted hundreds of shoppers to cram into big-box stores selling "essential" goods while closing boutique/specialty stores that average, what, 5 customers at any given time? It's clear that a lot of pe...
by TNWE
16 Jul 2020 15:20
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Museum Tower
Replies: 205
Views: 117391

Re: Museum Tower

June 2020 Zero sold. 111 sold in 91 months. (1.22 per month) 3 remaining. Rolling 12-month sales: 5 (.42 per month) Sellout projection, based on the pace of sales thus far: 7 years, 10 months. Sellout projection, based on the rolling 12-month pace of sales: 8 years, 3 months. There also currently 1...
by TNWE
16 Jul 2020 14:53
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Silver Line
Replies: 345
Views: 154451

Re: Silver Line

The BNSF line and the DGNO line will be switching places to avoid a railroad diamond crossing. An elevated crossing will be added to the east, with the DGNO (Silver) line going over the BNSF line. Existing layout North BNSF line DGNO (ex-Cotton Belt) line South New layout North DGNO (Silver) line B...
by TNWE
10 Jul 2020 12:44
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: Fair Park
Replies: 121
Views: 52147

Re: Fair Park

The media seems to certainly be picking on Texas and Florida these days. I have family in England and apparently Texas is even making the news over there, which is absurd to me. Yes things are getting worse here, but we have been open for a few months now and our deaths per capita is still relative...
by TNWE
10 Jul 2020 11:38
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: Fair Park
Replies: 121
Views: 52147

Re: Fair Park

Congratulations guys. we did it! :? The State Fair of Texas is officially canceled The State Fair of Texas, which has been canceled only eight times during its 134 years, and even then primarily because of two world wars, will not take place during 2020, fair officials announced Tuesday. https://ww...
by TNWE
03 Jul 2020 09:45
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Uptown Dallas: Marriott Uptown
Replies: 70
Views: 29745

Re: Uptown Dallas: Marriott Uptown

And before it flipped to Marriott, it was a Westin hotel for a time. But TNWE, you are somewhat correct as it was the first downtown property that Marriott had that was branded as a Marriott--not as one of the other brands under their umbrella. When I first moved to Dallas I was struck by how few M...
by TNWE
02 Jul 2020 14:08
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: 2000 Ross Project
Replies: 481
Views: 231445

Re: Downtown Dallas: 2000 Ross Project

Barring some groundbreaking shift in engineering/construction methods, the parking garage will always be the first part of any project to be built (leave aside for a moment the pipe dream that more than a handful of Dallasites will embrace a car-free lifestyle within our lifetimes). On top of that, ...
by TNWE
02 Jul 2020 12:11
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Dallas Area Rapid Transit
Replies: 364
Views: 154783

Re: Dallas Area Rapid Transit

Redblock wrote:The platform is being extending northward. This requires the removal of a cement block wall. One of the tracks needs to be completely closed while this is done.


Gotcha - so the station cutout was dug out to accommodate longer trains, but the extra portion was walled off?
by TNWE
02 Jul 2020 12:06
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Uptown Dallas: Marriott Uptown
Replies: 70
Views: 29745

Re: Uptown Dallas: Marriott Uptown

^ Some people have short memories.... s-l1600.jpg Neat! Where is/was that? Somewhere along Harry Hines? It was at Stemmons/Market Center, the southwest corner. The Sheraton Suites, Courtyard, and Fairfield are on that site now. It was Marriott's first big property in Dallas, and the closest it woul...
by TNWE
02 Jul 2020 11:32
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Uptown Dallas: Marriott Uptown
Replies: 70
Views: 29745

Re: Uptown Dallas: Marriott Uptown

Hannibal Lecter wrote:^ Some people have short memories....

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Neat! Where is/was that? Somewhere along Harry Hines?
by TNWE
02 Jul 2020 11:28
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: New Oak Cliff Streetcar
Replies: 92
Views: 43175

Re: New Oak Cliff Streetcar

I still think its pretty useless unless it loops through more of Oak Cliff and a little further into Downtown. With one end point at Union Station and the other at Bishop Arts. Mind you I understand some disagree and would rather not increase our investment in something some consider a vanity proje...
by TNWE
02 Jul 2020 10:47
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Dallas Area Rapid Transit
Replies: 364
Views: 154783

Re: Dallas Area Rapid Transit

DART's platform extension project has finally reached Cityplace/Uptown station: https://dart.org/rideralerts/fullra.asp?id=4974 On weekends through August, the Red line will operate on a single track between Mockingbird and Pearl, with the Blue line turning around at those stations and the Orange Li...
by TNWE
02 Jul 2020 10:25
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Uptown Dallas: Marriott Uptown
Replies: 70
Views: 29745

Re: Uptown Dallas: Marriott Uptown

Thanks for the pics @Dalbert. IMO that’s the perfect sized hotel for that part of town. Agreed, but there were some people on here insisting that it shouldn't be a "Marriott" branded hotel because those can only be 1000+ room convention hotels right in the middle of major downtown busines...
by TNWE
25 Jun 2020 13:01
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DART D2 Subway
Replies: 376
Views: 158188

Re: DART D2 Subway

Its not that simple to earn your Million dollar fee. You have to look at property ownership, prices, market conditions, etc and then you create theoretical projects that fit within those models. A developer can then take this info make their own changes and propose development to DART. This also he...
by TNWE
25 Jun 2020 10:15
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DART D2 Subway
Replies: 376
Views: 158188

Re: DART D2 Subway

Whatever plan DART settles on for D2, they have some grant money to plan TODs. https://www.rtands.com/passenger/fta-funds-tod-study-of-darts-d2-project-stations/ Seems like that money would be better spent on planning TOD at outlying stations surrounded by big parking lots, as opposed to in the alr...
by TNWE
24 Jun 2020 15:08
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: New Oak Cliff Streetcar
Replies: 92
Views: 43175

Re: New Oak Cliff Streetcar

No Longer Free, DART's Bishop Arts Streetcar to Charge $1 Fare https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/no-longer-free-darts-bishop-arts-streetcar-to-charge-1-fare/2394646/ I still think they should have held off on charging money in order to encourage more people to use it and encourage more development ...
by TNWE
24 Jun 2020 10:06
Forum: Suburban + Exurban Development
Topic: Las Colinas/North Irving Development
Replies: 1094
Views: 436023

Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

Something interesting caught my eye on the current City Council agenda... It's listed under Executive Session- something called Project Coast HQ2. Hmmmm…. I hope it wasn't this HQ2: "[*] https://www.bizjournals.com/denver/news/2020/06/23/marqeta-names-denver-hq2.html " Looks like that par...
by TNWE
19 Jun 2020 10:04
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Dallas Love Field People Mover
Replies: 51
Views: 26908

Re: Dallas Love Field People Mover

The whole reason the Boring Co.'s tunnels are cheaper is the fact that they don't have to be designed to accommodate specialized electrical equipment or meet the relatively more precise tolerances for rail. Battery-powered rubber-tired vehicles don't need much besides the tunnel bore and a reasonab...
by TNWE
18 Jun 2020 11:29
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Dallas Love Field People Mover
Replies: 51
Views: 26908

Re: Dallas Love Field People Mover

What do you think most people and transit activists would call the mode of transit using Elon's Tesla cars in Elon's Boring Tunnels? An underground People Mover! Let's assume Love Field builds one, using just one vehicle within just one tunnel. It might reach 60 mph before having to slow down in th...
by TNWE
17 Jun 2020 09:07
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DCTA (Denton Co. Transportation Authority)
Replies: 20
Views: 10283

Re: DCTA (Denton Co. Transportation Authority)

In the image showing a Frisco line, all other previous images for 15-20 years show that going to DT Carrollton and jetting down the west side of the green line down towards an Irving TRE station. Is this drawn correctly? I realize it's not really the subject matter and perhaps it wasn't in line w/N...
by TNWE
16 Jun 2020 14:33
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DART D2 Subway
Replies: 376
Views: 158188

Re: DART D2 Subway

But if we just imagine that it's going to be awhile before they ever act on that design, it would be cheaper to get a little peak traffic flexibility by adding a flying junction [ -- those words are a URL link for anyone interested] from the NB Red Line to the current NB Green Line at the Northwest...
by TNWE
10 Jun 2020 15:13
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DART D2 Subway
Replies: 376
Views: 158188

Re: DART D2 Subway

The more I really contemplate life the universe and everything, I'd leave it to muni Dallas to cover the D2 area w/streetcar consists. I said it a decade ago. I understand it's not pretty, but, why not make a new color to do a loop downtown/fair park/the cedars via yes, the train yard. It's not goi...
by TNWE
09 Jun 2020 13:49
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: 508 Young Street (old Dallas Morning News building)
Replies: 85
Views: 23730

Re: Downtown Dallas: 508 Young Street (old Dallas Morning News building)

This whole are on the SW side of the CBD has the land and connections to really grow. If I were in sim city mode I'd make this area full of mid-rises with a tower or two. Make the streets very pedestrian/bike friendly. It's got good connections to intercity rail/Amtrak/ highways/ trails/ TRE/ and H...
by TNWE
09 Jun 2020 13:34
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: AMLI Fountain Place (562 FT / 46 ST)
Replies: 780
Views: 420271

Re: Downtown Dallas: AMLI Fountain Place (562 FT / 46 ST)

Any news on leasing progress? I know that they're targeting a July opening, but given the eye-popping prices coupled with lots of people losing their jobs, I can't imagine their numbers look great...
by TNWE
09 Jun 2020 13:18
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DART D2 Subway
Replies: 376
Views: 158188

Re: DART D2 Subway

Thanks for sharing, CTroy- I hadn't seen those concepts before, but that's basically what I had in mind. But where would the caterers, wedding guests and bride and groom park? I know you're joking, but I always find it funny that some of the most vocally pro-transit/urbanization and anti-car folks w...

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