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by TNWE
03 Jul 2020 09:45
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Uptown Dallas: Marriott Uptown
Replies: 70
Views: 25610

Re: Uptown Dallas: Marriott Uptown

And before it flipped to Marriott, it was a Westin hotel for a time. But TNWE, you are somewhat correct as it was the first downtown property that Marriott had that was branded as a Marriott--not as one of the other brands under their umbrella. When I first moved to Dallas I was struck by how few M...
by TNWE
02 Jul 2020 14:08
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: 2000 Ross Project
Replies: 472
Views: 208088

Re: Downtown Dallas: 2000 Ross Project

Barring some groundbreaking shift in engineering/construction methods, the parking garage will always be the first part of any project to be built (leave aside for a moment the pipe dream that more than a handful of Dallasites will embrace a car-free lifestyle within our lifetimes). On top of that, ...
by TNWE
02 Jul 2020 12:11
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Dallas Area Rapid Transit
Replies: 359
Views: 136328

Re: Dallas Area Rapid Transit

Redblock wrote:The platform is being extending northward. This requires the removal of a cement block wall. One of the tracks needs to be completely closed while this is done.


Gotcha - so the station cutout was dug out to accommodate longer trains, but the extra portion was walled off?
by TNWE
02 Jul 2020 12:06
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Uptown Dallas: Marriott Uptown
Replies: 70
Views: 25610

Re: Uptown Dallas: Marriott Uptown

^ Some people have short memories.... s-l1600.jpg Neat! Where is/was that? Somewhere along Harry Hines? It was at Stemmons/Market Center, the southwest corner. The Sheraton Suites, Courtyard, and Fairfield are on that site now. It was Marriott's first big property in Dallas, and the closest it woul...
by TNWE
02 Jul 2020 11:32
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Uptown Dallas: Marriott Uptown
Replies: 70
Views: 25610

Re: Uptown Dallas: Marriott Uptown

Hannibal Lecter wrote:^ Some people have short memories....

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Neat! Where is/was that? Somewhere along Harry Hines?
by TNWE
02 Jul 2020 11:28
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: New Oak Cliff Streetcar
Replies: 92
Views: 38772

Re: New Oak Cliff Streetcar

I still think its pretty useless unless it loops through more of Oak Cliff and a little further into Downtown. With one end point at Union Station and the other at Bishop Arts. Mind you I understand some disagree and would rather not increase our investment in something some consider a vanity proje...
by TNWE
02 Jul 2020 10:47
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Dallas Area Rapid Transit
Replies: 359
Views: 136328

Re: Dallas Area Rapid Transit

DART's platform extension project has finally reached Cityplace/Uptown station: https://dart.org/rideralerts/fullra.asp?id=4974 On weekends through August, the Red line will operate on a single track between Mockingbird and Pearl, with the Blue line turning around at those stations and the Orange Li...
by TNWE
02 Jul 2020 10:25
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Uptown Dallas: Marriott Uptown
Replies: 70
Views: 25610

Re: Uptown Dallas: Marriott Uptown

Thanks for the pics @Dalbert. IMO that’s the perfect sized hotel for that part of town. Agreed, but there were some people on here insisting that it shouldn't be a "Marriott" branded hotel because those can only be 1000+ room convention hotels right in the middle of major downtown busines...
by TNWE
25 Jun 2020 13:01
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DART D2 Subway
Replies: 376
Views: 141952

Re: DART D2 Subway

Its not that simple to earn your Million dollar fee. You have to look at property ownership, prices, market conditions, etc and then you create theoretical projects that fit within those models. A developer can then take this info make their own changes and propose development to DART. This also he...
by TNWE
25 Jun 2020 10:15
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DART D2 Subway
Replies: 376
Views: 141952

Re: DART D2 Subway

Whatever plan DART settles on for D2, they have some grant money to plan TODs. https://www.rtands.com/passenger/fta-funds-tod-study-of-darts-d2-project-stations/ Seems like that money would be better spent on planning TOD at outlying stations surrounded by big parking lots, as opposed to in the alr...
by TNWE
24 Jun 2020 15:08
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: New Oak Cliff Streetcar
Replies: 92
Views: 38772

Re: New Oak Cliff Streetcar

No Longer Free, DART's Bishop Arts Streetcar to Charge $1 Fare https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/no-longer-free-darts-bishop-arts-streetcar-to-charge-1-fare/2394646/ I still think they should have held off on charging money in order to encourage more people to use it and encourage more development ...
by TNWE
24 Jun 2020 10:06
Forum: Suburban + Exurban Development
Topic: Las Colinas/North Irving Development
Replies: 1080
Views: 385485

Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

Something interesting caught my eye on the current City Council agenda... It's listed under Executive Session- something called Project Coast HQ2. Hmmmm…. I hope it wasn't this HQ2: "[*] https://www.bizjournals.com/denver/news/2020/06/23/marqeta-names-denver-hq2.html " Looks like that par...
by TNWE
19 Jun 2020 10:04
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Dallas Love Field People Mover
Replies: 51
Views: 24059

Re: Dallas Love Field People Mover

The whole reason the Boring Co.'s tunnels are cheaper is the fact that they don't have to be designed to accommodate specialized electrical equipment or meet the relatively more precise tolerances for rail. Battery-powered rubber-tired vehicles don't need much besides the tunnel bore and a reasonab...
by TNWE
18 Jun 2020 11:29
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Dallas Love Field People Mover
Replies: 51
Views: 24059

Re: Dallas Love Field People Mover

What do you think most people and transit activists would call the mode of transit using Elon's Tesla cars in Elon's Boring Tunnels? An underground People Mover! Let's assume Love Field builds one, using just one vehicle within just one tunnel. It might reach 60 mph before having to slow down in th...
by TNWE
17 Jun 2020 09:07
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DCTA (Denton Co. Transportation Authority)
Replies: 19
Views: 8765

Re: DCTA (Denton Co. Transportation Authority)

In the image showing a Frisco line, all other previous images for 15-20 years show that going to DT Carrollton and jetting down the west side of the green line down towards an Irving TRE station. Is this drawn correctly? I realize it's not really the subject matter and perhaps it wasn't in line w/N...
by TNWE
16 Jun 2020 14:33
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DART D2 Subway
Replies: 376
Views: 141952

Re: DART D2 Subway

But if we just imagine that it's going to be awhile before they ever act on that design, it would be cheaper to get a little peak traffic flexibility by adding a flying junction [ -- those words are a URL link for anyone interested] from the NB Red Line to the current NB Green Line at the Northwest...
by TNWE
10 Jun 2020 15:13
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DART D2 Subway
Replies: 376
Views: 141952

Re: DART D2 Subway

The more I really contemplate life the universe and everything, I'd leave it to muni Dallas to cover the D2 area w/streetcar consists. I said it a decade ago. I understand it's not pretty, but, why not make a new color to do a loop downtown/fair park/the cedars via yes, the train yard. It's not goi...
by TNWE
09 Jun 2020 13:49
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: 508 Young Street (old Dallas Morning News building)
Replies: 68
Views: 18636

Re: Downtown Dallas: 508 Young Street (old Dallas Morning News building)

This whole are on the SW side of the CBD has the land and connections to really grow. If I were in sim city mode I'd make this area full of mid-rises with a tower or two. Make the streets very pedestrian/bike friendly. It's got good connections to intercity rail/Amtrak/ highways/ trails/ TRE/ and H...
by TNWE
09 Jun 2020 13:34
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: AMLI Fountain Place (562 FT / 46 ST)
Replies: 776
Views: 382853

Re: Downtown Dallas: AMLI Fountain Place (562 FT / 46 ST)

Any news on leasing progress? I know that they're targeting a July opening, but given the eye-popping prices coupled with lots of people losing their jobs, I can't imagine their numbers look great...
by TNWE
09 Jun 2020 13:18
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DART D2 Subway
Replies: 376
Views: 141952

Re: DART D2 Subway

Thanks for sharing, CTroy- I hadn't seen those concepts before, but that's basically what I had in mind. But where would the caterers, wedding guests and bride and groom park? I know you're joking, but I always find it funny that some of the most vocally pro-transit/urbanization and anti-car folks w...
by TNWE
09 Jun 2020 10:41
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: 508 Young Street (old Dallas Morning News building)
Replies: 68
Views: 18636

Re: Downtown Dallas: 508 Young Street (old Dallas Morning News building)

Which in theory would be solved by the D2 plan cause DART will build a underground station near West End because DART plans for that area to be its hub. This is of course ignoring the fact D2 has been delayed further by recent events but gosh darn it we will have the silver line... My recollection ...
by TNWE
08 Jun 2020 14:27
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: 508 Young Street (old Dallas Morning News building)
Replies: 68
Views: 18636

Re: Downtown Dallas: 508 Young Street (old Dallas Morning News building)

"Yeah, it's disappointing. Comparing it to my Denver scenario it fails even in the most basic sense in that there's no direct route from DFW to Union. But regardless, if this part of downtown gets more developed I hope Union st. gets some amount of attention and isn't relegated to being mostly...
by TNWE
08 Jun 2020 12:23
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DART D2 Subway
Replies: 376
Views: 141952

Re: DART D2 Subway

To give the city council credit we are all playing SimCity with other peoples money. This whole forum is people with priorities, values and goals and desires playing a life long game of SimCity. Some more self beneficial than others. Every part of the bureaucracy is a multi level SimCity game. For ...
by TNWE
05 Jun 2020 17:58
Forum: The Airports
Topic: DFW Airport
Replies: 254
Views: 106800

Re: DFW Airport

ATL is a much better run airport and airspace than here as well. You've apparently never been through TSA at ATL. :-) As for the airspace, ATL has a nice little monopoly. They don't have another major airport less than 5 miles away to complicate things. Good point, except for the exaggeration. Less...
by TNWE
05 Jun 2020 14:17
Forum: The Airports
Topic: DFW Airport
Replies: 254
Views: 106800

Re: DFW Airport

ATL is a much better run airport and airspace than here as well. You've apparently never been through TSA at ATL. :-) As for the airspace, ATL has a nice little monopoly. They don't have another major airport less than 5 miles away to complicate things. Pro-tip for ATL - if you're getting dropped o...
by TNWE
02 Jun 2020 10:11
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas Retail
Replies: 314
Views: 135457

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Yeah, contractors just leave supplies strewn on sidewalks for months on end in this town. There were bricks (and piles of wires, and trash, and plastic wrapping on the ADA-compliant curbs, and even entire street signs which could be an interesting projectile in a storm...) alongside Henderson Ave f...
by TNWE
01 Jun 2020 10:03
Forum: The Bus + Roads/Highways/Bridges
Topic: I-345
Replies: 297
Views: 92540

Re: I-345

Southern Dallas residents need I-345. Why is a wealthy consortium trying to tear it down? https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/editorials/2020/05/29/southern-dallas-residents-need-i-345-why-is-a-wealthy-consortium-trying-to-tear-it-down/ Didnt know that Dmagazine CEO was the one who founded the group...
by TNWE
21 May 2020 11:04
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DART D2 Subway
Replies: 376
Views: 141952

Re: DART D2 Subway

DART does not own the Union Station building, the City does and it leases it out to several entities that want parking spaces for their employees. DART could gain control of the property needed to run that extra track through eminent domain process, but I doubt the City would roll over. The City co...
by TNWE
20 May 2020 12:30
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DART D2 Subway
Replies: 376
Views: 141952

Re: DART D2 Subway

As a reminder where DART has pocket tracks, there are just a few on the system. Green south at Lawnview, Green and Orange north at Bachman, Blue line north at LBJ/Skillman, Red line north at LBJ/Central, Red and Blue south just before spur to maintenance shops. There is also one just north of Victo...
by TNWE
18 May 2020 15:40
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DART D2 Subway
Replies: 376
Views: 141952

Re: DART D2 Subway

"Crowdedness" is definitely a subjective term that depends on the context of the system. At least when I think about trains "from Parker Road," that really implies trains on the entire North Central corridor (north of Mockingbird) rather than from Parker Road specifically. As ha...
by TNWE
15 May 2020 09:59
Forum: Suburban + Exurban Development
Topic: Las Colinas/North Irving Development
Replies: 1080
Views: 385485

Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

It looks like Boi Na Braza Steakhouse is undergoing a change... It'll now be called BLAZE Brazilian Steakhouse. Not sure if it's a different ownership group, but the signs came down yesterday and new signs should be going up soon. Brazilian steakhouses are pretty interchangeable in my eyes, so as l...
by TNWE
14 May 2020 10:17
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DART D2 Subway
Replies: 376
Views: 141952

Re: DART D2 Subway

I'm not against D2 at all, but I've come to realize it's a "regional" fix for a "local" problem. ... Recall that the original D2 plan had a tunnel branch east of Metro Center leading to a station at the Convention center that would have served this exact purpose, but idiots on h...
by TNWE
13 May 2020 14:14
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DART D2 Subway
Replies: 376
Views: 141952

Re: DART D2 Subway

I'm not against D2 at all, but I've come to realize it's a "regional" fix for a "local" problem. It's not even a *good* fix for the regional problem. The underlying motivation for D2 is that they can't add any more trains on any line because the current transit mall has capacity...
by TNWE
13 May 2020 11:32
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: Corporate Relocations/Expansions
Replies: 479
Views: 168807

Re: Corporate Relocations/Expansions

I wonder what was their rationale. I'm sure Austin is well-positioned, but not sure how or why they'd be the only Texas city. Maybe Dallas with its airline woes and Houston with its oil/energy woes? A bit of irony is that I would think the blow to the airline industry is a little softened by the lo...
by TNWE
12 May 2020 09:48
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: Corporate Relocations/Expansions
Replies: 479
Views: 168807

Re: Corporate Relocations/Expansions

The worst thing we could do for our chances would be to put Judge Clay Jenkins face on it... Just sayin... But, glad to see the Mayor making a push. It's honestly weird to see him making such overtures to Musk and Tesla, considering that Musk's latest feud is over...not wanting to comply with stay-...
by TNWE
11 May 2020 12:22
Forum: The Bus + Roads/Highways/Bridges
Topic: DART: Bus system
Replies: 51
Views: 20356

Re: DART: Bus system

^ Keep in mind that DART itself has no desire to build D2. The push for the subterranean albatross is coming from the Dallas City Council, which has never met a boondoggle it didn't love -- as long as another taxing authority was on the hook for it. In fairness, Dallas City Council has been perfect...
by TNWE
08 May 2020 09:36
Forum: The Bus + Roads/Highways/Bridges
Topic: DART: Bus system
Replies: 51
Views: 20356

Re: DART: Bus system

I took the survey as well, though some questions seemed poorly designed, like the one asking respondents to choose between a scenario where buses ran on parallel streets at lower frequency, with a short 2 min walk from home to the stop (coverage) or a scenario where there was a single route at high ...
by TNWE
04 May 2020 13:26
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Dallas Area Rapid Transit
Replies: 359
Views: 136328

Re: Dallas Area Rapid Transit

Covid-19 to delay DART rail projects? Here is a report with a DART letter and Budger and Finance Committee presentation. https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/coronavirus/covid-19-may-force-dart-to-delay-downtown-subway-by-15-years/2361863/ Not surprising - sales tax receipts are gonna take a big hit between...
by TNWE
16 Apr 2020 11:50
Forum: The Airports
Topic: DFW Airport
Replies: 254
Views: 106800

Re: DFW Airport

No idea on Tucy's question, but since Terminal F is pretty poorly located for TEXRail, Orange Line and TRE passengers, is it intended mostly for flight capacity for new transfer connecting passengers? It seems like ORD plans to compete hard for more of this next generation of continental east-west ...
by TNWE
31 Mar 2020 17:07
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: DFW Economy
Replies: 386
Views: 146617

Re: DFW Economy

It won't be just downtown, or just restaurants. Any business that's been running by the seat of their pants and not planning adequately for downturns or surprises could be in trouble. It could be an interesting year or so around here. I don't think any business could really be successful if they ha...
by TNWE
31 Mar 2020 14:47
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DART D2 Subway
Replies: 376
Views: 141952

Re: DART D2 Subway

Both transit and cars/roads suffer from a free rider problem (both literally and figuratively, lol). Declaring one mode superior to the other because of a particular financial metric is silly. The anti-car partisans have largely made choices that minimize the necessity of owning a car in their perso...
by TNWE
11 Mar 2020 16:19
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Silver Line
Replies: 325
Views: 137102

Re: Silver Line

There's no ramp for the existing elevated Green Line platform though - the required ADA redundancy is provided by having two elevators (three if you count the one at the south end of the ped walkway over Belt Line). What is special about the Silver line that it needs a ramp connection in addition t...
by TNWE
10 Mar 2020 09:30
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Silver Line
Replies: 325
Views: 137102

Re: Silver Line

The latest Silver Line briefing has some interesting nuggets on the design of the Downtown Carrolton station and how it will interchange with both the existing Green Line, as well as potential A-Train and "Frisco Line" commuter rail extensions... https://dart.org/about/board/boardagendas/...
by TNWE
09 Mar 2020 15:53
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Silver Line
Replies: 325
Views: 137102

Re: Silver Line

The latest Silver Line briefing has some interesting nuggets on the design of the Downtown Carrolton station and how it will interchange with both the existing Green Line, as well as potential A-Train and "Frisco Line" commuter rail extensions... https://dart.org/about/board/boardagendas/p...
by TNWE
19 Feb 2020 10:19
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: DALLAS to HOUSTON High Speed Rail
Replies: 415
Views: 177924

Re: DALLAS to HOUSTON High Speed Rail

First Look at the interior layout of the Texas High-Speed Train https://www.texascentral.com/posts/milestone-first-look-at-the-interior-layout-of-the-texas-high-speed-train First-Class comfort, with even more space: •WIDE aisles: 32” (wider than a regional jet) •Ample space: 32” of legroom and 41” ...
by TNWE
17 Feb 2020 13:15
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: AT&T Discovery District
Replies: 381
Views: 144299

Re: AT&T Discovery District

^^ My favorite part of the article, AT&T Discovery District will offer FREE parking in the evenings in the employee parking garages. Gotta love that!! Yes!! Great to know. I know Uber is doing the same thing, so I'm so glad these developments are being smarter and not just letting their parking...
by TNWE
14 Feb 2020 16:29
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: DFW Economy
Replies: 386
Views: 146617

Re: DFW Economy

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/real-estate/2020/02/14/dallas-apartment-market-soars-with-more-than-a-dozen-high-rises/ Apparently DFW has 20 high-rise apartment buildings in the works right now. Tbh, that's less than I thought, but maybe RealPage is being stricter with their definition. And wh...
by TNWE
13 Feb 2020 13:17
Forum: Suburban + Exurban Development
Topic: Las Colinas/North Irving Development
Replies: 1080
Views: 385485

Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

I remember getting on Metra trains in Chicagoland and thinking the beauty of simplicity in their stations. DART has always over engineered everything, and as such it's costs dwarf those of other transit systems. Even with this particular station redesign, the costs are still through the roof. The S...
by TNWE
13 Feb 2020 11:23
Forum: Suburban + Exurban Development
Topic: Las Colinas/North Irving Development
Replies: 1080
Views: 385485

Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

There was some discussion in the DART thread about it - the construction costs came in higher than estimated, and Irving needed some extra time to get the cash together. The estimate for this station is totally ridiculous when you consider that the foundations and footings for the station were buil...
by TNWE
12 Feb 2020 14:51
Forum: Suburban + Exurban Development
Topic: Las Colinas/North Irving Development
Replies: 1080
Views: 385485

Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

Hidden Ridge Station is finally rolling. Apparently the city of Irving had agreed to fund it. That must have been the reason for the delay. https://communityimpact.com/dallas-fort-worth/coppell-valley-ranch-las-colinas/transportation/2020/01/29/irving039s-116m-hidden-ridge-transit-station-to-open-i...

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