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by I45Tex
10 Jan 2020 10:54
Forum: Opolis Blueprints
Topic: I-345
Replies: 2
Views: 188

Re: I-345

Somewhere in Calatrava's drawings that I saw at the Meadows Museum is a sketch of Elwood and Jake soaring between the gates of a bascule Margaret Hunt Hill Bridge.
by I45Tex
10 Jan 2020 10:51
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Oak Lawn -Crescent Communities purchase 4 MF Tower
Replies: 2
Views: 596

Re: Oak Lawn -Crescent Communities purchase 4 MF Tower

Thanks for the news, thanks also for the additional picture. If it is 22 floors can mods put it in the thread title, too, please?
by I45Tex
10 Jan 2020 08:08
Forum: Opolis Blueprints
Topic: I-345
Replies: 2
Views: 188

I-345

Probably some on this forum have seen the area around Sears Tower where the city streets are all overpasses above ground level, with the buildings' underground service levels actually built in the open air at ground level. The development of Illinois Center, Lakeshore East and Millennium Park over f...
by I45Tex
10 Jan 2020 07:34
Forum: Opolis Blueprints
Topic: Mansfield + Midlothian
Replies: 10
Views: 5961

Re: Mansfield + Midlothian

Not to mention, Dallas' southern burbs are now blooming. Waxahachie has the largest planned development south of the Metroplex under construction right now. The growth in Waxahachie has become so astronomical that the new Baylor hospital is working on plans to build a new facility next to the one t...
by I45Tex
10 Jan 2020 07:25
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas - 505 North Ervay (owned by First Baptist)
Replies: 95
Views: 19301

Re: Downtown Dallas - 505 North Ervay (owned by First Baptist)

Although if we want to be straightforward, maybe there are either 1,250,000 Dallas citizens outside DT/UT who don't "live out in the burbs", detached from DT/UT, or else the entire working pattern of the city *is* still very close to the postwar level of car orientation of the suburbs. I c...
by I45Tex
30 Dec 2019 20:22
Forum: Suburban + Exurban Development
Topic: Las Colinas/North Irving Development
Replies: 992
Views: 300230

Re: Las Colinas/North Irving Development

With the Music Factory developer saying that the soil quality is mush, would high rises have to get several dollars higher rents (that compare today to the initial 1980s optimism?) to justify an extra expense on foundations?
by I45Tex
30 Dec 2019 19:01
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Most Exciting Projects of 2020
Replies: 39
Views: 3281

Re: Most Exciting Projects of 2020

Is that a lot? :lol: How many SFHs/duplexes, on average, can one cram into 337 acres? “A lot” can be 0.04 acre, or 25 townhomes per acre, but even when two or three floors of habitable space are on top of every garage, Sunbelt cities still use a significant percentage of their residential land on p...
by I45Tex
30 Dec 2019 16:42
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: New Census Population Estimates
Replies: 123
Views: 35510

Re: New Census Population Estimates

It will be a few months before annual metro population estimates for 7/1/2019 come out, but the state and national ones were released today. https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2019/popest-nation.html Texas gained an estimated 367,000 in the twelve month period, for a total of 3,850,000 s...
by I45Tex
30 Dec 2019 16:28
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Most Exciting Projects of 2020
Replies: 39
Views: 3281

Re: Most Exciting Projects of 2020

FYI the area between Fitzhugh, Haskell, Ross, and Central is 337 acres, measured with freemaptools.com
by I45Tex
30 Dec 2019 11:54
Forum: The Bus + Roads/Highways/Bridges
Topic: I-345
Replies: 290
Views: 60213

Re: I-345

TNWE, I think that that's all well-spoken and well thought-out. I mostly haven't participated in this debate, but isn't it also correct to say this? The level of pent-up pre-leasing demand to finance Plaza-of-the-Americas-scale monsterpieces, like Spire wants to build, is not the same as -- to the p...
by I45Tex
29 Dec 2019 16:09
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Harwood Int'l District: Harwood No. 11 (The Forum)
Replies: 166
Views: 51169

Re: Harwood Int'l District: Harwood No. 11 (The Forum)

So it does. That doesn't answer my question of how did the other reporter come up with a different floor count. That other article specifically said plans filed with the city showed a 40-story building. So, perhaps whatever has been filed with the city shows something different (and perhaps more ac...
by I45Tex
28 Dec 2019 21:35
Forum: Urban Photography + Videography
Topic: Old Footage of Dallas
Replies: 45
Views: 13491

Re: Old Footage of Dallas

Speaking of First National Bank, I found a date on an index card in an undated UTA photograph from their Squire Haskins Photography collection archives: https://library.uta.edu/digitalgallery-beta/img/20004442 Using the Drever's renovation renderings and cross-sections that Towers.net linked last ye...
by I45Tex
25 Dec 2019 20:43
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Harwood Int'l District: Harwood No. 11 (The Forum)
Replies: 166
Views: 51169

Re: Harwood Int'l District: Harwood No. 11 (The Forum)

A Dallas S&L-era businessman used to (during the 1980s) own the two 19-story valet-only decks at Marina City in Chicago. Cylindrical. Harwood's super likely to use blue glass to wrap the new one. Are these North Texas' tallest decks? (15) https://www.emporis.com/buildings/170700/carter-burgess-p...
by I45Tex
21 Dec 2019 22:57
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Uptown Dallas: Routh and Cedar Springs
Replies: 25
Views: 4593

Re: Uptown Dallas: Routh and Cedar Springs

Any hotel flag mentioned for this after Dallas' recent wave of new hospitality development starts?
by I45Tex
20 Dec 2019 13:33
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Harwood Int'l District: Harwood No. 11 (The Forum)
Replies: 166
Views: 51169

Re: Harwood Int'l District: Harwood No. 11 (The Forum)

A garage podium spanning both leftmost city blocks on the site shown would be almost 40Ksf per floor. An office tower on only the middle block would be almost 20Ksf per floor. Let's say 15x39 + 25x19, gets them 1.06MM.

FAA Height approved 620' last year, see page 2 of this thread.
by I45Tex
20 Dec 2019 12:47
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Harwood Int'l District: Harwood No. 11 (The Forum)
Replies: 166
Views: 51169

Re: Harwood Int'l District: Harwood No. 11 (The Forum)

DMN's counting the garage to get 1MMsf I think
by I45Tex
18 Dec 2019 10:39
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Dallas Mockingbird Station
Replies: 118
Views: 36911

Re: Dallas Mockingbird Station

Thanks Mike!
I count 21, 11, and 13 floors above ground on the buildings in the hi-res TC rendering on this press release.
by I45Tex
13 Dec 2019 10:47
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Shraman South Asian Museum
Replies: 144
Views: 36111

Re: Shraman South Asian Museum

Duda Paine was the design architect on the new Pioneer building in Irving, but HKS was the administrative architect-of-record on that project whose aesthetics are not assthetic
by I45Tex
12 Dec 2019 21:02
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Shraman South Asian Museum
Replies: 144
Views: 36111

Re: Shraman South Asian Museum

Then from here I would just dream of MATA continued right down Griffin to Founders Square. Wouldn't be so hard to meet the Oak Cliff/Union Station Dallas Streetcar then, like DART's desired "Central Link" wanted the two to do (but which made them both map-spaghetti routes, hard to remember...
by I45Tex
12 Dec 2019 20:46
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Shraman South Asian Museum
Replies: 144
Views: 36111

Re: Shraman South Asian Museum

I know that KWP or another public-private partnership would have to do what I'm suggesting -- it's not in the scope of the site owners' pro forma -- but I think this site, however jumbled or too low or too high, is a far cry from how memorable it will be if the McKinney Avenue Trolley could continue...
by I45Tex
12 Dec 2019 14:44
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Uptown: Luxury Hotel, 2025 Cedar Springs (Pizza Hut Strip Mall)
Replies: 28
Views: 5439

Re: Uptown: Luxury Hotel, 2025 Cedar Springs (Pizza Hut Strip Mall)

Here's more about Hyatt's Thompson Hotels and their 216-room (ours 230) project underway in Denver:

https://www.hotel-online.com/press_rele ... -colorado/
by I45Tex
12 Dec 2019 14:17
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: DFW Economy
Replies: 315
Views: 98480

Re: DFW Economy

You may be comparing 2017 nominal dollars to 2018 current nominal dollars. The way to get growth rates is to choose the BEA's chained constant-2012-dollar real GDP table.
by I45Tex
12 Dec 2019 13:00
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: DFW Economy
Replies: 315
Views: 98480

Re: DFW Economy

Part of what throws readers is that the list of Combined Statistical Areas is not simply the most general national ranking of metro economies, because MSAs like Tampa and Austin are large enough to rank but don't form part of any CSA.
by I45Tex
11 Dec 2019 18:33
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: DFW Economy
Replies: 315
Views: 98480

Re: DFW Economy

And at 7:30 tomorrow morning we get to run downstairs and unwrap our present from the Bureau of Economic Analysis -- 2018 local GDP statistics!
by I45Tex
04 Dec 2019 08:51
Forum: Suburban + Exurban Issues/News
Topic: What is a suburb today?
Replies: 67
Views: 31000

Re: What is a suburb today?

From a set of new articles on the suburban project nationwide:

https://www.curbed.com/2019/11/6/209503 ... population
by I45Tex
01 Dec 2019 15:08
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Uptown Dallas: 1899 McKinney (McKinney/Akard/St. Paul Triangle)
Replies: 50
Views: 12524

Re: Uptown Dallas: 1899 McKinney (McKinney/Akard/St. Paul Triangle)

Yes I forgot HKS moved to One Dallas, which now overlooks Pacific Plaza Park.
by I45Tex
30 Nov 2019 21:53
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Uptown Dallas: 1899 McKinney (McKinney/Akard/St. Paul Triangle)
Replies: 50
Views: 12524

Re: Uptown Dallas: 1899 McKinney (McKinney/Akard/St. Paul Triangle)

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/real-estate/2019/05/20/uptown-dallas-block-sells-new-high-rise-project "It's effectively the last piece of undeveloped land in that area where you could do something of substance," he said. But architect HKS' global headquarters right across the street,...
by I45Tex
30 Nov 2019 21:41
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Fort Worth: Dickies Arena
Replies: 27
Views: 5179

Re: Fort Worth: Dickies Arena

1. In LA's Inland Empire you couldn't rival the Lakers-Clippers' local support and wouldn't want to 2. Montreal has hockey! 3. Tampa-St. Petersburg have NFL, MLB, and NHL already, which nearby Orlando doesn't 4. Fort Worth Besides those three sport-saturated metros, the Fort Worth metropolitan divis...
by I45Tex
24 Nov 2019 21:18
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Deep Ellum: The Stack - 2700 Commerce
Replies: 73
Views: 12891

Re: Deep Ellum: The Stack - 2700 Commerce

"Fair" enough tamtagon, and not to stray off-topic, but if that second line from Union Station would hypothetically be like the current Streetcar line -- with no fee, and running 5:30am-12:00am daily -- then an investment instead in a second line with that same length of track but from Uni...
by I45Tex
23 Nov 2019 22:05
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Deep Ellum: The Stack - 2700 Commerce
Replies: 73
Views: 12891

Re: Deep Ellum: The Stack - 2700 Commerce

My perception is that disagreements here are disagreements about strategy-- that since most of central Dallas' century-old urban streetscapes are gone now, and are not already newly springing up everywhere like we'd fantasize, H.L. doesn't believe that reinventing/adulterating the main remaining pro...
by I45Tex
21 Nov 2019 19:29
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Deep Ellum: Epic ~ Knights of Pythias Temple
Replies: 498
Views: 153771

Re: Deep Ellum: Epic ~ Knights of Pythias Temple

But don't stop there. Go on to Jevons' paradox. People (policymakers included) tend to assume that we should invest in, or maintain, more efficient infrastructure/technology/regulation because it will let people start to consume less of a valuable resource, and then the increase in efficiencies lead...
by I45Tex
14 Nov 2019 11:41
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Deep Ellum: Epic ~ Knights of Pythias Temple
Replies: 498
Views: 153771

Re: Deep Ellum: Epic ~ Knights of Pythias Temple

Uber went for the timely “house of cards” style
by I45Tex
12 Nov 2019 09:57
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Arts District: Hall Arts Hotel & Residences
Replies: 229
Views: 101655

Re: Arts District: Hall Arts Hotel & Residences

Um I will take this entire project at this height any day over the dead zone that existed in the heart of our Arts District for years and years. I am hopeful we can attain an urban demand for some supertalls in our future. We are fighting headwinds from companies that would rather be in campus form...
by I45Tex
04 Nov 2019 18:19
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Hillwood Urban's ~50 storey tower on former BoA motorcourt
Replies: 189
Views: 70601

Re: Downtown Dallas: Hillwood Urban's ~50 storey tower on former BoA motorcourt

Ignoring Wilshire Grand, Perot or any other new "west of the Mississippi" would still have to be taller than the 1,070-foot Salesforce crown: https://www.skyscrapercenter.com/building/salesforce-tower/290 However, if an architect padded the height with a crown and/or spires, so that it wa...
by I45Tex
04 Nov 2019 17:45
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Hillwood Urban's ~50 storey tower on former BoA motorcourt
Replies: 189
Views: 70601

Re: Downtown Dallas: Hillwood Urban's ~50 storey tower on former BoA motorcourt

Ignoring Wilshire Grand, Perot or any other new "west of the Mississippi" would still have to be taller than the 1,070-foot Salesforce crown:

https://www.skyscrapercenter.com/buildi ... -tower/290
by I45Tex
24 Oct 2019 19:02
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: TC Area: 2727 Turtle Creek Blvd
Replies: 24
Views: 9249

Re: TC Area: 2727 Turtle Creek Blvd

R1070 wrote:Hmm... St Regis, Mandarin or ....?


Mods can change the thread title to the chain whose logo is a "big fan" (Mandarin) and never opened in a tower in Victory way back when?
by I45Tex
18 Oct 2019 10:25
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: DFW Economy
Replies: 315
Views: 98480

Re: DFW Economy

I don't like using LEHD for O-Ds. The biggest issue is that LEHD data is from employers, and particularly for firms with multiple locations, the mailing address that the business provides for its location isn't necessarily the same as the workplace addresses for most of their employees. The sample ...
by I45Tex
17 Oct 2019 17:59
Forum: Texas Urban/Suburban/Exurban Development
Topic: Houston Development News
Replies: 8
Views: 3168

Re: Houston Development News

Depends on your comps. Going by Cushman & Wakefield Marketbeat I'm seeing Central London (270MM, 12MM available Q2, newest one not posted yet), DFW (237MM, 43MM vacant), Chicagoland (233MM, 40MM vacant), Paris city and La Défense (221MM, 6MM available Q2), and Boston (184MM, 28MM available). Hou...
by I45Tex
16 Oct 2019 12:22
Forum: Texas Urban/Suburban/Exurban Development
Topic: Houston Development News
Replies: 8
Views: 3168

Re: Houston Development News

Occidental bought out Woodlands-based Anadarko and now has a 1,600,000+ square foot campus there in addition to 960,000 square feet it leases in Greenway Plaza and 1,400,000 in West Houston's Energy Corridor. It has had 750,000 of the Greenway space up for sublease for a year, pending plans to move ...
by I45Tex
15 Oct 2019 15:14
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Uptown Dallas: 1899 McKinney (McKinney/Akard/St. Paul Triangle)
Replies: 50
Views: 12524

Re: Uptown Dallas: 1899 McKinney (McKinney/Akard/St. Paul Triangle)

Having looked at the Sonder job vacancies recruitment descriptions for cities like Atlanta my impression in the recent past was that their employees are not paid any better than hotel workers but are encouraged to have an ownership mentality, without the upside of earning ownership. While de-risking...
by I45Tex
14 Oct 2019 16:16
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: DFW Economy
Replies: 315
Views: 98480

Re: DFW Economy

Thank you for that good discussion. Do you know whether the OMB delineations of core-based statistical areas (for other readers: this includes both micropolitan and metropolitan statistical areas) are being based on ACS, LEHD, or some other dataset updating? I ask because, in 2017 LEHD, one of the h...
by I45Tex
12 Oct 2019 22:12
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: DFW Economy
Replies: 315
Views: 98480

Re: DFW Economy

The ACS may not be the best tool to use to skin this cat: https://onthemap.ces.census.gov Someone can select Fort Worth and then map what counties the city's workers are employed in, and see the top 100 counties in 2017. Then they can change the search and map what other Places (Cities and Census De...
by I45Tex
24 Sep 2019 14:43
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Dallas Smart District
Replies: 120
Views: 42149

Re: Dallas Smart District

But Hoque has the cheaper Pilgrims Pride land, which has less visibility and less office potential, for the kind of multifamily midrises being suggested here.
by I45Tex
24 Sep 2019 03:55
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Dallas Smart District
Replies: 120
Views: 42149

Re: Dallas Smart District

This render has about 9 floors of parking with about 40 floors of office above that.
by I45Tex
21 Sep 2019 16:09
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: Downtown Progress
Replies: 113
Views: 40177

Re: Downtown Progress

That is the journalist who filed an article this week about how real estate investors are concerned about the DFW market's shrinking margins, alongside an article describing Houston's market as "underrated." I suppose if you don't count as negative margins any of the holding costs of fifty...
by I45Tex
20 Sep 2019 15:51
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: AMLI Fountain Place (562 FT / 46 ST)
Replies: 708
Views: 301652

Re: Downtown Dallas: AMLI Fountain Place (562 FT / 46 ST)

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:
tamtagon wrote:so, like, there's not another one near this tall in the works right now?

The Victor is the tallest in the works rn.


Harwood is trying to prelease a 620' tower, but it is not under a crane like Flora&Olive or The Victor.
by I45Tex
19 Sep 2019 18:06
Forum: Suburban + Exurban Development
Topic: Fairview: misc. developments
Replies: 5
Views: 1780

Re: Fairview: misc. developments

More parts of the Metro that I could care less about visiting and seeing the same things found in every suburban mixed-use development. My Dallitude is showing... Standard trite internet city chat reaction #1 (just edging out TL;DR by a nose) is well how dare you criticize if you simultaneously hav...
by I45Tex
07 Sep 2019 09:54
Forum: Texas Urban/Suburban/Exurban Development
Topic: Austin's proposed tallest (in 4 yrs)
Replies: 140
Views: 34171

Re: Austin's proposed tallest (in 4 yrs)

https://catalog.utexas.edu/general-information/appendices/statistical-summaries/ Okay in 2017-2018, UT graduated 330 Baccalaureates in CS, 64 MS in Tech Commercialization, 48 MS in CS, 3 BS in Computational Eng., 346 BS in EE and 0 MS in EE. Across those six programs (Ph.D.'s are not broken out by s...
by I45Tex
07 Sep 2019 07:12
Forum: Texas Urban/Suburban/Exurban Development
Topic: Austin's proposed tallest (in 4 yrs)
Replies: 140
Views: 34171

Re: Austin's proposed tallest (in 4 yrs)

You're welcome. Though for perspective, in terms of yesterday's Angel List openings that puts Austin only in 11th place in the US and Canada.

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