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by I45Tex
04 Dec 2019 08:51
Forum: Suburban + Exurban Issues/News
Topic: What is a suburb today?
Replies: 67
Views: 29113

Re: What is a suburb today?

From a set of new articles on the suburban project nationwide:

https://www.curbed.com/2019/11/6/209503 ... population
by I45Tex
01 Dec 2019 15:08
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Uptown Dallas: 1899 McKinney (McKinney/Akard/St. Paul Triangle)
Replies: 50
Views: 10820

Re: Uptown Dallas: 1899 McKinney (McKinney/Akard/St. Paul Triangle)

Yes I forgot HKS moved to One Dallas, which now overlooks Pacific Plaza Park.
by I45Tex
30 Nov 2019 21:53
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Uptown Dallas: 1899 McKinney (McKinney/Akard/St. Paul Triangle)
Replies: 50
Views: 10820

Re: Uptown Dallas: 1899 McKinney (McKinney/Akard/St. Paul Triangle)

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/real-estate/2019/05/20/uptown-dallas-block-sells-new-high-rise-project "It's effectively the last piece of undeveloped land in that area where you could do something of substance," he said. But architect HKS' global headquarters right across the street,...
by I45Tex
30 Nov 2019 21:41
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Fort Worth: Dickies Arena
Replies: 21
Views: 3863

Re: Fort Worth: Dickies Arena

1. In LA's Inland Empire you couldn't rival the Lakers-Clippers' local support and wouldn't want to 2. Montreal has hockey! 3. Tampa-St. Petersburg have NFL, MLB, and NHL already, which nearby Orlando doesn't 4. Fort Worth Besides those three sport-saturated metros, the Fort Worth metropolitan divis...
by I45Tex
24 Nov 2019 21:18
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Deep Ellum: The Stack - 2700 Commerce
Replies: 73
Views: 11440

Re: Deep Ellum: The Stack - 2700 Commerce

"Fair" enough tamtagon, and not to stray off-topic, but if that second line from Union Station would hypothetically be like the current Streetcar line -- with no fee, and running 5:30am-12:00am daily -- then an investment instead in a second line with that same length of track but from Uni...
by I45Tex
23 Nov 2019 22:05
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Deep Ellum: The Stack - 2700 Commerce
Replies: 73
Views: 11440

Re: Deep Ellum: The Stack - 2700 Commerce

My perception is that disagreements here are disagreements about strategy-- that since most of central Dallas' century-old urban streetscapes are gone now, and are not already newly springing up everywhere like we'd fantasize, H.L. doesn't believe that reinventing/adulterating the main remaining pro...
by I45Tex
21 Nov 2019 19:29
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Deep Ellum: Epic ~ Knights of Pythias Temple
Replies: 498
Views: 145764

Re: Deep Ellum: Epic ~ Knights of Pythias Temple

But don't stop there. Go on to Jevons' paradox. People (policymakers included) tend to assume that we should invest in, or maintain, more efficient infrastructure/technology/regulation because it will let people start to consume less of a valuable resource, and then the increase in efficiencies lead...
by I45Tex
14 Nov 2019 11:41
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Deep Ellum: Epic ~ Knights of Pythias Temple
Replies: 498
Views: 145764

Re: Deep Ellum: Epic ~ Knights of Pythias Temple

Uber went for the timely “house of cards” style
by I45Tex
12 Nov 2019 09:57
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Arts District: Hall Arts Hotel & Residences
Replies: 229
Views: 94559

Re: Arts District: Hall Arts Hotel & Residences

Um I will take this entire project at this height any day over the dead zone that existed in the heart of our Arts District for years and years. I am hopeful we can attain an urban demand for some supertalls in our future. We are fighting headwinds from companies that would rather be in campus form...
by I45Tex
04 Nov 2019 18:19
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Hillwood Urban's ~50 storey tower on former BoA motorcourt
Replies: 187
Views: 66117

Re: Downtown Dallas: Hillwood Urban's ~50 storey tower on former BoA motorcourt

Ignoring Wilshire Grand, Perot or any other new "west of the Mississippi" would still have to be taller than the 1,070-foot Salesforce crown: https://www.skyscrapercenter.com/building/salesforce-tower/290 However, if an architect padded the height with a crown and/or spires, so that it wa...
by I45Tex
04 Nov 2019 17:45
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Hillwood Urban's ~50 storey tower on former BoA motorcourt
Replies: 187
Views: 66117

Re: Downtown Dallas: Hillwood Urban's ~50 storey tower on former BoA motorcourt

Ignoring Wilshire Grand, Perot or any other new "west of the Mississippi" would still have to be taller than the 1,070-foot Salesforce crown:

https://www.skyscrapercenter.com/buildi ... -tower/290
by I45Tex
24 Oct 2019 19:02
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: TC Area: 2727 Turtle Creek Blvd
Replies: 24
Views: 8456

Re: TC Area: 2727 Turtle Creek Blvd

R1070 wrote:Hmm... St Regis, Mandarin or ....?


Mods can change the thread title to the chain whose logo is a "big fan" (Mandarin) and never opened in a tower in Victory way back when?
by I45Tex
18 Oct 2019 10:25
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: DFW Economy
Replies: 285
Views: 92199

Re: DFW Economy

I don't like using LEHD for O-Ds. The biggest issue is that LEHD data is from employers, and particularly for firms with multiple locations, the mailing address that the business provides for its location isn't necessarily the same as the workplace addresses for most of their employees. The sample ...
by I45Tex
17 Oct 2019 17:59
Forum: Texas Urban/Suburban/Exurban Development
Topic: Houston Development News
Replies: 8
Views: 2651

Re: Houston Development News

Depends on your comps. Going by Cushman & Wakefield Marketbeat I'm seeing Central London (270MM, 12MM available Q2, newest one not posted yet), DFW (237MM, 43MM vacant), Chicagoland (233MM, 40MM vacant), Paris city and La Défense (221MM, 6MM available Q2), and Boston (184MM, 28MM available). Hou...
by I45Tex
16 Oct 2019 12:22
Forum: Texas Urban/Suburban/Exurban Development
Topic: Houston Development News
Replies: 8
Views: 2651

Re: Houston Development News

Occidental bought out Woodlands-based Anadarko and now has a 1,600,000+ square foot campus there in addition to 960,000 square feet it leases in Greenway Plaza and 1,400,000 in West Houston's Energy Corridor. It has had 750,000 of the Greenway space up for sublease for a year, pending plans to move ...
by I45Tex
15 Oct 2019 15:14
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Uptown Dallas: 1899 McKinney (McKinney/Akard/St. Paul Triangle)
Replies: 50
Views: 10820

Re: Uptown Dallas: 1899 McKinney (McKinney/Akard/St. Paul Triangle)

Having looked at the Sonder job vacancies recruitment descriptions for cities like Atlanta my impression in the recent past was that their employees are not paid any better than hotel workers but are encouraged to have an ownership mentality, without the upside of earning ownership. While de-risking...
by I45Tex
14 Oct 2019 16:16
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: DFW Economy
Replies: 285
Views: 92199

Re: DFW Economy

Thank you for that good discussion. Do you know whether the OMB delineations of core-based statistical areas (for other readers: this includes both micropolitan and metropolitan statistical areas) are being based on ACS, LEHD, or some other dataset updating? I ask because, in 2017 LEHD, one of the h...
by I45Tex
12 Oct 2019 22:12
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: DFW Economy
Replies: 285
Views: 92199

Re: DFW Economy

The ACS may not be the best tool to use to skin this cat: https://onthemap.ces.census.gov Someone can select Fort Worth and then map what counties the city's workers are employed in, and see the top 100 counties in 2017. Then they can change the search and map what other Places (Cities and Census De...
by I45Tex
24 Sep 2019 14:43
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Dallas Smart District
Replies: 120
Views: 40449

Re: Dallas Smart District

But Hoque has the cheaper Pilgrims Pride land, which has less visibility and less office potential, for the kind of multifamily midrises being suggested here.
by I45Tex
24 Sep 2019 03:55
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Dallas Smart District
Replies: 120
Views: 40449

Re: Dallas Smart District

This render has about 9 floors of parking with about 40 floors of office above that.
by I45Tex
21 Sep 2019 16:09
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: Downtown Progress
Replies: 113
Views: 38563

Re: Downtown Progress

That is the journalist who filed an article this week about how real estate investors are concerned about the DFW market's shrinking margins, alongside an article describing Houston's market as "underrated." I suppose if you don't count as negative margins any of the holding costs of fifty...
by I45Tex
20 Sep 2019 15:51
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: AMLI Fountain Place (562 FT / 46 ST)
Replies: 686
Views: 281190

Re: Downtown Dallas: AMLI Fountain Place (562 FT / 46 ST)

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:
tamtagon wrote:so, like, there's not another one near this tall in the works right now?

The Victor is the tallest in the works rn.


Harwood is trying to prelease a 620' tower, but it is not under a crane like Flora&Olive or The Victor.
by I45Tex
19 Sep 2019 18:06
Forum: Suburban + Exurban Development
Topic: Fairview: misc. developments
Replies: 5
Views: 1536

Re: Fairview: misc. developments

More parts of the Metro that I could care less about visiting and seeing the same things found in every suburban mixed-use development. My Dallitude is showing... Standard trite internet city chat reaction #1 (just edging out TL;DR by a nose) is well how dare you criticize if you simultaneously hav...
by I45Tex
07 Sep 2019 09:54
Forum: Texas Urban/Suburban/Exurban Development
Topic: Austin's proposed tallest (in 4 yrs)
Replies: 136
Views: 30278

Re: Austin's proposed tallest (in 4 yrs)

https://catalog.utexas.edu/general-information/appendices/statistical-summaries/ Okay in 2017-2018, UT graduated 330 Baccalaureates in CS, 64 MS in Tech Commercialization, 48 MS in CS, 3 BS in Computational Eng., 346 BS in EE and 0 MS in EE. Across those six programs (Ph.D.'s are not broken out by s...
by I45Tex
07 Sep 2019 07:12
Forum: Texas Urban/Suburban/Exurban Development
Topic: Austin's proposed tallest (in 4 yrs)
Replies: 136
Views: 30278

Re: Austin's proposed tallest (in 4 yrs)

You're welcome. Though for perspective, in terms of yesterday's Angel List openings that puts Austin only in 11th place in the US and Canada.
by I45Tex
06 Sep 2019 13:02
Forum: Texas Urban/Suburban/Exurban Development
Topic: Austin's proposed tallest (in 4 yrs)
Replies: 136
Views: 30278

Re: Austin's proposed tallest (in 4 yrs)

The 6 X Guadalupe 848' mixed-use project filed this summer with the FAA to authorize a tower crane of up to 925' starting in October and lasting through March 2021. Has not received a decision yet. https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/searchAction.jsp?action=displayOECase&oeCaseID=410642180&...
by I45Tex
03 Sep 2019 17:04
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: AMLI Fountain Place (562 FT / 46 ST)
Replies: 686
Views: 281190

Re: Downtown Dallas: AMLI Fountain Place (562 FT / 46 ST)

They deserve praise for making an effort. It's not any kind of classic, but it's a positive step. When the Pegasus was put on top of the Magnolia Building, there were taller buildings in OKC, Houston, San Antonio and Tulsa, but it was still one of the world's 150 tallest. http://www.skyscrapercenter...
by I45Tex
29 Aug 2019 14:23
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: DFW Economy
Replies: 285
Views: 92199

Re: DFW Economy

DPatel, TAMU prefers to split Tarrant and its suburbs off from the Dallas part of the Metroplex for reporting purposes.
by I45Tex
29 Aug 2019 10:47
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: DFW Economy
Replies: 285
Views: 92199

Re: DFW Economy

I knew Killeen wasn't creating larger numbers of jobs than Austin. The blurb quoted here refers to their annual rate of percentage growth this year.
by I45Tex
29 Aug 2019 10:43
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Uptown Dallas: (PWC) Park District Tower (316 FT | 20 ST) + Residences at Park District (385 FT | 32 ST)
Replies: 176
Views: 72220

Re: Uptown Dallas: (PWC) Park District Tower (316 FT | 20 ST) + Residences at Park District (385 FT | 32 ST)

Inside CBRE's first flexible working space, Hana https://www-bizjournals-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news/2019/08/28/photos-cbre-hana.amp.html "The 67,000-square-foot office space [which opened this week] located adjacent to Klyde Warren Park is the company’s flagship ...
by I45Tex
23 Aug 2019 14:44
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Harwood Int'l District: Harwood No. 11 (The Forum)
Replies: 129
Views: 45277

Re: Harwood Int'l District: Harwood No. 11 (The Forum)

Drove by today and noticed that the fence has gone up around this area, saying Harwood 12. They are still trying to prelease that office tower, so they may be taking people by the site now. But they can't do much vertically till they have an obstruction determination for the cranes, which each have...
by I45Tex
21 Aug 2019 15:55
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Deep Ellum: Epic ~ Knights of Pythias Temple
Replies: 498
Views: 145764

Re: Deep Ellum: Epic ~ Knights of Pythias Temple

This story is local now.... https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news/2019/08/21/uber-dallas.html “They might share that with us privately, but they will not share that publicly, or it’s not even part of the conversation, but we know that the C-suite is here 75 percent of the time. Well, that would b...
by I45Tex
21 Aug 2019 08:42
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Deep Ellum: Epic ~ Knights of Pythias Temple
Replies: 498
Views: 145764

Re: Deep Ellum: Epic ~ Knights of Pythias Temple

^Isn't that interesting.... Isn't Uber investing a bunch in their SF headquarters though? If that's the case, you'd have to think they'll be there for the foreseeable future. That plus the difference in engineering talent that still exists. "Most of Uber’s Dallas employees will work in finance...
by I45Tex
08 Aug 2019 14:31
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Uptown Dallas: Routh and Cedar Springs
Replies: 24
Views: 3657

Re: Uptown Dallas: Routh and Cedar Springs

Thought this looked familiar. 2500-CS-Office-1.jpg 2300Mckinney_05.jpg 609 Main in Houston has two similar chamfers over the sidewalk at the Main Street end of the building: https://www.google.com/maps/place/609+Main+at+Texas,+609+Main+St,+Houston,+TX+77002/@29.7594929,-95.3628374,3a,75y,123.77h,90...
by I45Tex
06 Aug 2019 19:25
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment
Replies: 235
Views: 77913

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

-- increasing land and taxable value for the city, providing momentum to the area surrounding 75 and allowing for the success of West Village to flow into the underdeveloped east side, while opening up more land for development adjacent to one of the most successful walkable/mixed use developments ...
by I45Tex
06 Aug 2019 09:33
Forum: Suburban + Exurban Development
Topic: Lewisville: misc. developments
Replies: 3
Views: 2381

Re: Lewisville: misc. developments

"...Bright Realty has broken ground on Crown Centre at Castle Hills, a 109,000-square-foot office building" with four floors.

https://rebusinessonline.com/bright-rea ... er-dallas/
by I45Tex
05 Aug 2019 17:44
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Oak Lawn: Toll Brothers (Congress & Welborn)
Replies: 10
Views: 5147

Re: Oak Lawn: Toll Brothers (Congress & Welborn)

https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/searchAction.jsp?action=displayOECase&oeCaseID=401446279&row=3 Crane approved 5/2019-11/2020 for 244' new building https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/searchAction.jsp?action=displayOECase&oeCaseID=366749792&row=0 https://www.tollbrothersapartmen...
by I45Tex
21 Jun 2019 09:28
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Harwood Int'l District: Harwood No. 11 (The Forum)
Replies: 129
Views: 45277

Re: Harwood Int'l District: Harwood No. 11 (The Forum)

Hey, how about we're getting yet another 40-story tower. Thanks, Harwood!!! Oh c'mon man. An investment is not special just because it is successful for an investor, any more than investment is good for urban life just because it is unusually intensive. The only meaningful critique of Harwood Distr...
by I45Tex
14 Jun 2019 14:09
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Victory Park: The Victor (~453FT / 39ST)
Replies: 49
Views: 23037

Re: Victory Park: The Victor (~453FT / 39ST)

Uptown and especially Victory have no track record to indicate that that is their appeal, tamtagon. The kind of urban Deep Ellum / Discovery District office product is not there. VP is as sterile as Austin's Domain. But without the lower cost higher choice home options for relocations that then come...
by I45Tex
24 May 2019 16:21
Forum: Texas Urban/Suburban/Exurban Development
Topic: Texas: A Shopping Paradise
Replies: 4
Views: 1762

Re: Texas: A Shopping Paradise

It would face public and private and homeless hurdles, Tivo, but we could eventually get that blend -- which we cannot have if the place is not civic and social -- with mixed-use blocks along a wide tree-lined hill avenue that arches McKinney from the Union over the highway and through the Shraman p...
by I45Tex
20 May 2019 19:38
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Uptown Dallas: 1899 McKinney (McKinney/Akard/St. Paul Triangle)
Replies: 50
Views: 10820

Re: Uptown Dallas: 1899 McKinney (McKinney/Akard/St. Paul Triangle)

My idea would be observing that Woodbine just bought the neighboring tower at 1845 Woodall Rodgers, which was an early local example of the parking podium tower (floors 9-17 are office, but below that its windows mask a garage). So make the first three or four floors of this site along McKinney some...
by I45Tex
09 May 2019 09:59
Forum: Texas Urban/Suburban/Exurban Development
Topic: Luxury casino-resort 100 miles from Dallas gambles on $500 million expansion
Replies: 8
Views: 2469

Re: Luxury casino-resort 100 miles from Dallas gambles on $500 million expansion

I suggest moderators move the US & World Urban Development thread on this over here. According to the census bureau, Durant is one of seven micropolitan areas that are part of DFW's combined statistical area. If "exurban" is equivalent to the census bureau's 15% threshold of commute in...
by I45Tex
19 Apr 2019 19:50
Forum: Suburban + Exurban Development
Topic: Plano: Willow Bend Mall
Replies: 9
Views: 4788

Re: Plano: Willow Bend Mall

Class A, 27 floors office.png
Class A, 25 floors office.png


All eight spot elevations requested 300' AGL

https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/se ... 1224&row=0
and so on
by I45Tex
14 Apr 2019 19:25
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: Corporate Relocations/Expansions
Replies: 410
Views: 111537

Re: Corporate Relocations/Expansions

It's getting less and less premature to think of a headquarters relocation from Northern California when a company's executive leadership is giving quotes about it being "the right time to further lean out our organization," questing for net cost reduction, and has just acquired Anadarko's...
by I45Tex
09 Apr 2019 17:34
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Bank of America Plaza
Replies: 9
Views: 2304

Re: Downtown Dallas: Bank of America Plaza

It was #14 or 15 when completed, nothing to sneeze at. Houstonians claim to have played the role of "the Dubai of the time" (investment magnet, infinite growth, willingness to spend to be set apart from the pack)

http://offcite.org/citemagazine/

...but our buildings were no slouches.
by I45Tex
07 Apr 2019 13:41
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: The Link at Uptown
Replies: 102
Views: 27176

Re: The Link at Uptown

willyk, rent rate is not proxy for desirability because most businesses and citizens are not in the market for new office space. You're only discussing desirability to a relatively small subsegment of firms and folks, who ARE, by virtue of membership in such a subsegment, very image-sensitive. They'...
by I45Tex
05 Apr 2019 17:46
Forum: Texas Urban/Suburban/Exurban Development
Topic: Austin's proposed tallest (in 4 yrs)
Replies: 136
Views: 30278

Re: Austin's proposed tallest (in 4 yrs)

... I suppose Austin can only look to Atlanta as a guide of the future; neither of these A-towns have a really good museum or symphony and both have world class traffic problems. If you mean "cultural museums" as opposed to aquariums and zoos and science and history and such, Georgians ma...
by I45Tex
05 Apr 2019 10:35
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: The Link at Uptown
Replies: 102
Views: 27176

Re: The Link at Uptown

Yes, labels like Little Mexico had a much longer tenure than Uptown Dallas, which it's nice to be reminded no one used when The Crescent opened in 1985: https://books.google.com/books?id=uk-MDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA343&dq=dallas+philip+johnson+crescent+grand+opening&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi...
by I45Tex
04 Apr 2019 09:57
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: The Link at Uptown
Replies: 102
Views: 27176

Re: The Link at Uptown

Usually one looks to Steve Brown for the ultra super excited descriptions, but this time D Magazine outdid him: Nice building, but "pushed the envelope"?? This is a real head-scratcher: "It will boast unobstructed, protected views overlooking the Dallas North Tollway to the north and...
by I45Tex
03 Apr 2019 12:12
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: El Fenix site
Replies: 22
Views: 4109

Re: El Fenix site

Nice looking property from above with lots of potential, maybe they could leave the three restaurants alone and build on the parking lots? Lots of room for something tall and mixed-use, maybe something in the 40-45 floor range. Seems to be a popular number these days. Where did the name (The Triton...

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