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It's an EIS, every possible construction item that might be built within the next 20 years is included. Not everyone of them will be built at startup. The idea that there will be train stations built spaced just one mile apart is very unlikely. One will most likely be set aside to be built later and...

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I thought I'll show you what is really required to have an express train service. Here's mostly a rear window 40 minute video from White Plains to Grand Central in New York City. The cameraman moves to the back of the train around 7 and a half minutes. Pay close attention to the number of tracks, an...

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Is it too much to hope that enthusiastic partnerships will extend TRE to Kaufman County, using that subway plan? DART is not going to extend the TRE into Kaufman County anytime soon. First, no city in Kaufman County pays DART sales taxes. Second, even if the entire county paid DART a full penny sal...

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Presumably via the BNSF line from Irving to Carrollton. Would be quite out of the way though, not to mention having to deal with freight trains. I wonder why Carrollton is so opposed to the site that was proposed as the Cotton Belt yard facility. While the BNSF may be the major user of this section...

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With frequencies of 8 trains per hour on the red/orange line in north Dallas, there should be a train every 7. 5 minutes. Without additional passing sidings, a third track, the most savings in time an express train can make is at most 4 minutes - depending upon the size of the signal blocks. When tr...

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Well, I guess it's good we don't have express trains then..haha. I had not considered how unfair it would be to certain paying cities of DART, and also how it would encourage even more sprawl up north, so, with that said, I'm thinking this isn't my best idea. I think, even with all the points outli...

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I don't think it negates your idea... If the trucks are automated as well, they simply take up TWO of the new smaller lanes (at least for interstate travel), and all the autonomous vehicles can still fill in around them. You can still have smaller local delivery vehicles. How annoying is it to see ...

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I don't think it negates your idea... If the trucks are automated as well, they simply take up TWO of the new smaller lanes (at least for interstate travel), and all the autonomous vehicles can still fill in around them. You can still have smaller local delivery vehicles. How annoying is it to see ...

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Lanes are wide more so because semi-trucks and their trailers are wide. A typical large sedan is 6 feet 3 inches wide, a typical large SUV is 6 feet 8 inches wide, a typical 18 wheeler trailer is 8 feet 6 inches wide. A typical city street width can be as little as 10 feet wide, leaving 18 inches le...

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Can we get this thread back on the trains instead of hotels? Potentially 100,000 DART passengers ride through Union Station, how many of them use the Hyatt Regency Hotel? It's completely unrelated! Especially considering amongst the reasons why Texas Central uses in its social media is a day trip be...

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http://www.star-telegram.com/news/traffic/your-commute/article202845654.html Fort Worth's transit has changed names, and has a new logo also. Spokespeople for the transit system try (in vain?) to explain the reason for the logo and the name change. The explanation for why the name change is easy, t...

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I'm confused...I was under the impression DART wanted to do both D2 and Cotton Belt simultaneously, but Dallas put its foot down and said "NO, D2 is the priority" and won the vote in the DART board inasmuch, then the suburbs got pissy and threatened to leave DART. So now why are we talkin...

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Once daily and monthly passes were implemented, making it just as cheap to ride the trains all day long as two trips, once for the morning commute and another for the evening commute, they invited homesteaders or squatters to move in. To eliminate this they will have to rethink how they collect fare...

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Why would anyone ride a train from Houston to Dallas and then stay in a hotel at the train station? I've ridden a train from Fort Worth to Chicago, spent a night in a hotel near the train station, and rode another train to Seattle the next day. I can see the possibilities of people riding the train...

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I've always thought the idea of a 'wheel' transit line, that connects all the lines further out from the hub, is a good one. But to me, I think BRT along the Loop 12 corridor is a better approach than 635. The whole idea of serving Galleria area is a difficult one... No doubt it has the density and...

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DART to date has avoided routing light rail lines down the middle of expressways, preferring to route light rail lines down one side or under. Any light rail line near LBJ will probably be very expensive and routed under it, just like DART subway under US-75. Building a subway a couple of miles lon...

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Recent speech by Tim McKay at SW Rail Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mx_6YQF5G4

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Recent speech by Tim McKay at SW Rail Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mx_6YQF5G4

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Recent speech by Tim Keith at SW Rail Conference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLuOMhFgV9o

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Come on guys and gals, if you're going to taking public transit to get to Houston you better be willing to walk a little bit. The only way I'm aware of that gives you front door to front door walkability for distances so large is with a private automobile or motorcycle. There's a very good chance th...

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Tier 1 look promising, somewhat. Once D2 is finished, another light rail line west to Oak Cliff makes sense.:) The LBJ line makes sense between I-35E and US-75, but that's not where they are proposing to build it. It only needs to tie the Green Line with the Red Line, or at most to the Blue Line. Th...

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They have drawings of all three stations posted under the Blog tab of their web site. https://www.texascentral.com/blog/ The general design, platform areas, and train tracks of all three stations are very similar. The main differences between them is where the parking garages are located and how the...

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What? Are we looking at the same site plan? It looks pretty damn convenient to both Convention Center and Cedars stations to me... The only problem is that Houston is dropping the ball on their end. Three blocks at a typical 300 feet per block, is 900 feet. Add another block or two from the train's...

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My thoughts exactly. This station is supposed to be a huge catalyst for development, and, while that will still be true, it's absurd that so much space is being taken up by an above ground parking garage. This should be more of an urban mall with an attached high-rise. Look at the new Miami Central...

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I wouldn't go as far as to state projections on new ridership are suspicious - they were made using a calculation approved by the FTA and FRA. What's missing in the various arguments are that both D2 and the Cotton Belt have similar numbers in the projections - around 10,000 new riders per day (or ...

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I wouldn't go as far as to state projections on new ridership are suspicious - they were made using a calculation approved by the FTA and FRA. What's missing in the various arguments are that both D2 and the Cotton Belt have similar numbers in the projections - around 10,000 new riders per day (or s...

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Should have chosen Union Station for the Dallas terminal. Obvious, obvious, obvious. Where would they place the dedicated HSR tracks at Union Station? The latest NCTCOG funded DEIS for the Fort Worth HSR station places it 30 feet above the existing ITC station platforms, in a location with far more...

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dukemeredith wrote:Are these numbers individual people?!

Those green line numbers are appallingly low.

Read the morning news article linked, it should answer all your questions.

I didn't invent them out of thin air!

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The traffic counts for this useless line for 2040, not when built. 20 years from now: DFW: 1170 North DFW: 1320 Cypress W: 910 Downtown Carrollton: 1970 Addison: 1690 Knoll Trail: 530 Preston: 400 Coit: 760 UT Dallas: 850 CityLine: 1380 12th Street: 370 Shiloh: 680 I'm sure Plano is going to drop D...

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Ellis County commuter rail has been pushed by the NCTCOG and RTC for years. but lets get a little realistic with the lack of population within Ellis County and it's ability to financially support a commuter rail line.... Various nearby County population data: *Dallas County 2,574,984 *Tarrant County...

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It was an interesting presentation and study to read. It basically looked at improving three things; (1)drivability to the site including parking,(2) walkability to the site including aerial structures, (3) gettiing transit to the site. (1) and (2) was mostly accomplished by reinstating a street gri...

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Here’s their names with links to their photos. The Crescent Rose or Rosie (Car 122) http://mata.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Uptown_Sept16_960-674.jpg The Green Dragon (Car 186) http://www.uptowndallas.net/assets/UDI-4106-1680x860-Trolley.jpg Matilda (Car 369) http://www.railpictures.net/images/d1...

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Who is using the Virgin America gates today? Can’t Delta negotiate with them and leave Southwest alone? Additionally, it was Dallas that pushed for the 20 gate limit, there will never be more than 20 gates at Love Field if Dallas never builds more. Almighty god can grant Love Field permission and ca...

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Praying for all the families affected apparently by a lone shooter. 2nd Amendment.... Today's Sutherland church shooting is going to bring it up again, at least at the State level if not nationally. Sutherland lies within a community that has a post office, a Dollar General store, two gas stations, ...

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Right now they're using the money to support the Knox Complete Streets project. The MATA extension would be the next logical project (assuming they re-up the district this year). The PID gets $300k a year for a quite small area. A fair estimate of costs based on twice the MATA extension in downtown...

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Has anyone considered moving the Farmers Market to Fair Park ? It's grown smaller and the area around it filling with high end residential. Eventually the land will be too expensive for the Market and it would give Fair Park year round activity.....on the DART line as well. Great idea! They will be...

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Gating up the stations could also make for better security while waiting for the train. Anyone have a guest what it would cost to create secured entry to the stations with ticket or phone app entry from outside like other cities. It’ll cost a lot more than what they will earn with increase fares. A...

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Commercial property developers don’t necessarily want residential tenants. Market Center is set up for conventions and merchandizing shows. Which can be too noisy for residents attempting to rest and sleep. Different zonmg requires different ambient noise levels, different lighting levels, etc. One ...

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I used DART again to go the fair this weekend and was a great experience overall. The one thing that I think of when riding DART are the stations that could be surrounded by so much more living and density. Market Center is one I would like to see them develop all the way from the Infomart down to ...

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^what is the state's share? The State of Texas until very, very recently, hasn’t contributed any funds what-so-ever to transit. Not for construction, not for operations, not for anything at all. Recently, TXDOT distributed thinly around a $Half Billion$ throughout the State for transit agencies, fo...

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While it is true DART will not have the funds to fully fund the Cotton Belt by itself for another 10-15-20 years, it could have the funds much sooner if the Cotton Belt corridor qualify for FTA funding. Even sooner if the D2 Line also qualified for FTA funding. There’s no guarantee either will, but ...

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Amazon executives are progressives politically, they are not going to wish to live in a conservative area. So we should drop most of the South, including Texas, and the Midwest from the prospective candidates. I’m thinking central-southern Florida and the D.C. suburbs of northern Virginia would be t...

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I post a link or report where I find the data. I can not attest to either the US Census or Wiki website’s accuracy. Maybe someone should look for another independent website to bounce the data off. ;) Accuracy of the data aside, Legacy needs more transit than it has today. The BNSF Madill corridor r...

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For all those advocating a complete tear down and rerouting US-75 to Woodall Rogers, imagine you are driving from Richardson to Houston. Once you get on Woodall Rogers, you will have to make a left turn at Stemmons using the single lane loop by turning right. Then you would have to merge who knows h...

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The problem with tunneling I-345 is that I-30 is already 25 feet below grade. So to tunnel under I-30 will require tunneling I-345 50 feet below grade. Presently, at I-30, I-345 (or US-75) is 100 feet above I-30 or 75 feet above grade. So you will have to change it’s elevation by 125 feet. The steep...

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Maybe I'm missing something, but I guess I just don't see the value of a short, unconnected (without transfer) line from one low-density suburb that'll only run a couple of times a day. You’re missing the Legacy Business Park in Northwest Plano. Believe it or not, Plano Business Park employs about ...

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Well, sure. That is what I would want if I could just snap my fingers. But there's the small problem of the actual delivery/support of the project, unless there's been a sudden acceptance of taking lanes in N Dallas and at TxDOT and running rail through Preston Hollow that I'm unaware of. Preston H...

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What I would want if I were Plano would be train stations in or near the western neighborhoods of Plano. That could be accomplished the following ways: (A) commuter (regional) rail along the BNSF Madill corridor towards Frisco from Carrollton. This requires a commuter rail platform near the downtown...

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Rowlett is a first ring suburban city, and surely expects more than what they are getting. Rowlett is a "first ring" suburban city?! Sorry, I meant Addison. I’ll correct my earlier reply. There are other first ring suburban cities of Dallas that aren’t member cities yet. Addison could be ...

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DART can't afford to lose its #2 and #8 cities, period, end of story. Cash, influence, potential for other cities to leave, if Addison were to leave it would rock the foundation of a relatively fragile organization. Plano would be emboldened to do the same. You are correct, Plano does get the shaft...

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