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by dfwcre8tive
20 Jun 2018 12:00
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Uptown Dallas: Cedar Maple Plaza I,II & III (2301 Cedar Springs Rd.)
Replies: 35
Views: 3977

Re: Uptown Dallas: Cedar Maple Plaza I,II & III (2301 Cedar Springs Rd.)

The current buildings were designed to blend into the neighborhood. Seems that it would be easier to follow the original plan and add two 18-story buildings behind the current buildings (and these could be contemporary design). pl_006202018_1256_21202_160_Page_1.jpg pl_006202018_1256_21202_160_Page_...
by dfwcre8tive
04 Jun 2018 10:36
Forum: Urban Photography + Videography
Topic: Old Footage of Dallas
Replies: 18
Views: 538

Re: Old Footage of Dallas

In this video, you can see the ground level of the Old Sanger-Harris Dept. Store (now DART HQ) **notice that the signage over the door says “Sanger-Harris Open tonight until 9:00”** It would be awesome (today) if we could get any large retailer to stay open until 9 pm. Skip to 0:13 https://m.youtub...
by dfwcre8tive
30 May 2018 18:56
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Over/Under Downtown Dallas
Replies: 1
Views: 382

Re: Over/Under Downtown Dallas

Here are the plans for Cafe Momentum's community services center under Thanks-Giving Square in the Pedway. https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/33961309_1639392099441925_6857512331467816960_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=b33e28d22f9d40accf7b7082b16fe5e8&oe=5B763BDD https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fb...
by dfwcre8tive
23 May 2018 22:14
Forum: The Parks, Trails, + Miscellaneous Infrastructure
Topic: Downtown - Pacific Plaza Park
Replies: 90
Views: 9846

Re: Downtown - Pacific Plaza Park

If memory serves, the tiles are still there they just covered them up with a beautiful shade of grey. You're right that the tiles were painted, but I believe it's a layer of gray plaster/stucco. The lights at the base were also removed. The outside observation deck at the top is still there as well...
by dfwcre8tive
16 May 2018 16:01
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Over/Under Downtown Dallas
Replies: 1
Views: 382

Over/Under Downtown Dallas

Dallas Morning News explores the Dallas Pedway:

https://www.dallasnews.com/life/curious ... -exploring
by dfwcre8tive
16 May 2018 15:46
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square
Replies: 102
Views: 12995

Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Does anybody know if they have any plans to clean up the water in the fountains so it doesn't look brown? Thanks-Giving Square just received a matching grant for landscape improvements, which I believe will help repair all the fountains. Are you talking about the large cascade and grove water wall ...
by dfwcre8tive
16 May 2018 15:36
Forum: The Parks, Trails, + Miscellaneous Infrastructure
Topic: Downtown pocket plazas
Replies: 13
Views: 2515

Re: Downtown pocket plazas

IMG_8286.jpg IMG_8284.jpg I've always assumed that Jose Luis Sanchez's "Astral Flower" sculpture in the original Pacific Plaza was not very well received, but I didn't know for sure until I was researching another topic. No need to read the entire thing, but the headline says it all. To m...
by dfwcre8tive
16 May 2018 15:31
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Tower Petroleum - The Saint Elm Hotel (1907 Elm) & Corrigan Tower (1900 Pacific)
Replies: 139
Views: 20491

Re: Downtown Dallas: Tower Petroleum - The Saint Elm Hotel (1907 Elm) & Corrigan Tower (1900 Pacific)

I wonder what held that PIzzeria space back from being completed. I assume it was because the operator got distracted with his redevelopment of Adolphus Tower on Main Street and the movement on the Smart District project. I just hope they can have some sort of activation of the ground floor of the ...
by dfwcre8tive
05 May 2018 00:31
Forum: City Issues/News
Topic: Downtown Progress
Replies: 88
Views: 11342

Re: Downtown Progress

Just curious to know what the tallest vacant building (after 1401 Elm) is downtown. I can only think of one, and that's 505 N Ervay owned by First Baptist. Shame that they're allowed to just hold that property when it could be generating tax revenue. Screen Shot 2018-05-04 at 4.14.50 PM.jpg That pr...
by dfwcre8tive
25 Apr 2018 15:29
Forum: The Parks, Trails, + Miscellaneous Infrastructure
Topic: Downtown: Klyde Warren Park
Replies: 57
Views: 6809

Re: Downtown: Klyde Warren Park

I think it would be great if the museum's elevated walkway to Klyde Warren Park is a marvel of engineering and science, turning the 5 minute walk into a stroll through a nature & science project, but the city's help should be limited to getting through the red-tape. Or connect it with a "w...
by dfwcre8tive
21 Apr 2018 13:48
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square
Replies: 102
Views: 12995

Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Gravel in the temporary dog area has been replaced with new turf thanks to volunteers from Cafe Momentum. The immediate goal is to get everything green and fountains operable over the next several months. https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/31059515_1852774464774765_4166521763527655424_n.j...
by dfwcre8tive
17 Apr 2018 14:31
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Arts District: 1900 Pearl (362 FT | 25 ST)
Replies: 160
Views: 30891

Re: Arts District: 1900 Pearl (362 FT | 25 ST)

Mark di Suvero's Proverb, which was once on this site, is now enjoying a wilder life at Tippet Rise in Montana. https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20842132_1254244911352646_7916917842793026339_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=ee7b7b07c0ddf59dc6e39468c89d25a4&oe=5B726CC3 https://images.adsttc.co...
by dfwcre8tive
13 Apr 2018 15:59
Forum: The Parks, Trails, + Miscellaneous Infrastructure
Topic: Downtown - Pacific Plaza Park
Replies: 90
Views: 9846

Re: Downtown - Pacific Plaza Park

Interesting article/discussion about the function and purpose of parks in downtown Dallas. https://www.dmagazine.com/frontburner/2018/04/why-dont-dallas-downtown-parks-have-basketball-courts/ Klyde Warren taught Dallas an important lesson: because the city center itself does not yet have the street ...
by dfwcre8tive
09 Apr 2018 23:42
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Dallas Area Rapid Transit
Replies: 137
Views: 15256

Re: Dallas Area Rapid Transit

Are there any urban explorers out there that think they can get into any of these places? And if so, can provide pictures... Also if parts of the infrastructure are already place, why wouldn't they think of connecting the existing DART along these paths as part of the D2 expansion? The tunnel under...
by dfwcre8tive
09 Apr 2018 13:01
Forum: Rail + Guided Transit
Topic: Dallas Area Rapid Transit
Replies: 137
Views: 15256

Re: Dallas Area Rapid Transit

^ That's right. 1700 Pacific has some infrastructure beneath, since the plaza was always planned to be a transit center with integrated bus shelters (and 1700 Pacific was required to keep it so). The "future station" at Ross/Pearl shows connections to the buildings on that corner, but I do...
by dfwcre8tive
06 Apr 2018 17:07
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Deep Ellum 1.0
Replies: 306
Views: 45826

Re: Deep Ellum 1.0

Interesting flashback from 1989. Flashback, 1989: Architecture critic says Deep Ellum's future is 'as a mixed urban neighborhood' https://www.dallasnews.com/news/from-the-archives/2018/04/05/flashback-1989-architecture-critic-says-deep-ellums-future-mixed-urban-neighborhood Deep Ellum's future is as...
by dfwcre8tive
05 Apr 2018 14:09
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Tower Petroleum - The Saint Elm Hotel (1907 Elm) & Corrigan Tower (1900 Pacific)
Replies: 139
Views: 20491

Re: Downtown Dallas: Tower Petroleum - The Saint Elm Hotel (1907 Elm) & Corrigan Tower (1900 Pacific)

I don't like "i". A capital letter would look better imo. Did this building used to awnings? It looks like it is missing something.. Yes; it's designed to have retractable awnings at each window bay (similar to the Titche-Goettinger Building across Elm Street). The awnings kept the sidewa...
by dfwcre8tive
04 Apr 2018 12:03
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Parking Garages
Replies: 84
Views: 11757

Re: Parking Garages

Meanwhile, London converts parking garage space to community space: https://www.curbed.com/2018/4/4/17192194/parking-garage-adaptive-reuse-london-level-5 https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/L2UIAPauH-HCr1tYfUVLr7LKc8Y=/1000x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/10576549/car2.j...
by dfwcre8tive
04 Apr 2018 11:58
Forum: The Parks, Trails, + Miscellaneous Infrastructure
Topic: Downtown - Pacific Plaza Park
Replies: 90
Views: 9846

Re: Downtown - Pacific Plaza Park

The Sheraton becomes an entirely different property with a park across the street. The Great American Insurance Co building at 2020 Live Oak has potential as well, but it was just upgraded to a more robust data center last year. Remove the Olive cutoff and Pacific Plaza pocket park and there's area...
by dfwcre8tive
03 Apr 2018 19:18
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Statler Hotel & Residences + Future DMN Offices (Old Statler Hilton + Old Library)
Replies: 257
Views: 45064

Re: Downtown Dallas: Statler Hotel & Residences + Future DMN Offices (Old Statler Hilton + Old Library)

January comments from Landmark Commission: 210 S HARWOOD ST Harwood Historic District Courtesy Review - Construct a seven-story multifamily residential structure. - Approve conceptually with the recommendation that the applicant consider better distinguishing the front main entrance to the structure...
by dfwcre8tive
03 Apr 2018 19:14
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Tower Petroleum - The Saint Elm Hotel (1907 Elm) & Corrigan Tower (1900 Pacific)
Replies: 139
Views: 20491

Re: Downtown Dallas: Tower Petroleum - The Saint Elm Hotel (1907 Elm) & Corrigan Tower (1900 Pacific)

From the TOWERS article linked above, it seems the difficulty with this particular blade sign was because Tower Petroleum is within the Harwood Historic District — which only covers a block or so of Elm Street. Presumably, buildings further down Elm not within the historic district wouldn’t have ne...
by dfwcre8tive
03 Apr 2018 19:00
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Tower Petroleum - The Saint Elm Hotel (1907 Elm) & Corrigan Tower (1900 Pacific)
Replies: 139
Views: 20491

Re: Downtown Dallas: Tower Petroleum - The Saint Elm Hotel (1907 Elm) & Corrigan Tower (1900 Pacific)

A unique special purpose district had to be created just to get this sign to happen inside of an existing historic district you would think would allow it in some form. It sounded like a process the city won't be repeating. It's so ironic, because it seems like it's easier to throw a wrecking ball ...
by dfwcre8tive
21 Mar 2018 15:39
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square
Replies: 102
Views: 12995

Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

mdg109 wrote:What renovation is planned for the triangle nearest Cafe Momentum? Are there any long term plans to shorten the wall along Bryan Street?


Make it less hostile, improve the landscaping, eliminate odors and repair fountains. The tall wall along Bryan was built in 1996 by DART to control noise levels.
by dfwcre8tive
21 Mar 2018 15:34
Forum: The Parks, Trails, + Miscellaneous Infrastructure
Topic: The Cedars: Old City Park & Dallas Heritage Village
Replies: 14
Views: 735

Re: Old City Park (+ Dallas Heritage Village)

If the Confederate War Memorial is removed from Pioneer Plaza, Old City Park/Dallas Heritage Village could be an appropriate place to send it. It was the original location for the memorial (it was moved for freeway construction) and putting it in a "museum" setting would allow for educati...
by dfwcre8tive
21 Mar 2018 12:01
Forum: The Parks, Trails, + Miscellaneous Infrastructure
Topic: The Cedars: Old City Park & Dallas Heritage Village
Replies: 14
Views: 735

Re: Old City Park (+ Dallas Heritage Village)

If the Confederate War Memorial is removed from Pioneer Plaza, Old City Park/Dallas Heritage Village could be an appropriate place to send it. It was the original location for the memorial (it was moved for freeway construction) and putting it in a "museum" setting would allow for educatio...
by dfwcre8tive
21 Mar 2018 11:50
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square
Replies: 102
Views: 12995

Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

There are two exhibits on display at Thanks-Giving Square through June 3rd. The first is Enoc Perez: Liberty & Restraint in partnership with Dallas Contemporary. Have you spotted all the artwork at Philip Johnson-designed spaces? There are pieces at Thanks-Giving Square in the Chapel and the Hal...
by dfwcre8tive
21 Mar 2018 11:43
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square
Replies: 102
Views: 12995

Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Cafe Momentum is building a 4,500 sq. ft. Community Services Center in the Pedway retail area (former bank space) at Thanks-Giving Square. https://dallasinnovates.com/from-cafe-momentum-to-national-math-science-initiative-dfw-groups-receive-funding/ Great news and perfect use of that tunnel space. ...
by dfwcre8tive
20 Mar 2018 20:22
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Retail
Replies: 199
Views: 24816

Re: Downtown Dallas: Retail

Farewell to Doug's Gym, 55 years in downtown Dallas.

https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/comm ... ght-lifted
by dfwcre8tive
20 Mar 2018 20:09
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square
Replies: 102
Views: 12995

Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Cafe Momentum is building a 4,500 sq. ft. Community Services Center in the Pedway retail area (former bank space) at Thanks-Giving Square.

https://dallasinnovates.com/from-cafe-m ... e-funding/
by dfwcre8tive
08 Feb 2018 19:15
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Parking Garages
Replies: 84
Views: 11757

Re: Parking Garages

St. Paul from Woodall Rodgers to Federal is pretty much a lost cause anyway. I know a lot of people in this building park as far away as Plaza of the Americas, so there's little doubt it was needed. FullSizeRender 32.jpg When downtown is no different/better than the suburbs and the only way to &quo...
by dfwcre8tive
26 Jan 2018 00:45
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown - Merriman
Replies: 14
Views: 1612

Re: 400 N Akard / Houseman

Also, they don't show the skybridge in the rendering, but I'm wondering who owns it. It's integrated into the FBC Garage and flies over the FBC School playground. The Bullington-Akard Skywalk, owned/maintained by the City of Dallas (which is why it's in a poor state and slowly deteriorating). Lots ...
by dfwcre8tive
06 Jan 2018 02:10
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Turtle Creek: Kalita Humphreys Theater
Replies: 3
Views: 674

Turtle Creek: Kalita Humphreys Theater

Here's a good article about the current state of the Kalita Humphreys Theater. It's a building that deserves restoration and preservation. There is a new conservancy that was formed to start a dialogue between all involved operators and oversee a future $40 million complete restoration of the theate...
by dfwcre8tive
06 Jan 2018 01:54
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Statler Hotel & Residences + Future DMN Offices (Old Statler Hilton + Old Library)
Replies: 257
Views: 45064

Re: Downtown Dallas: Statler Hotel & Residences + Future DMN Offices (Old Statler Hilton + Old Library)

The building belongs in everyone’s tour of Dallas. Are there other examples of mid-century modern that are as good as the Statler? Is this the best mcm in the country? These are nice: https://voices.uchicago.edu/201504arth15709-01a2/files/2015/11/TWA_Flight_Center-1vr7mym.jpg http://chicagobrutalis...
by dfwcre8tive
12 Dec 2017 11:48
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square
Replies: 102
Views: 12995

Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

CTroy, I'll have to find the pic, but the donor list sign has a typo. I don't remember what it was off-hand. If you remember, let me know. I will take a closer look as well. Found it. I'd taken pix of all the new signage one day and meant to post it to the forum but didn't get to it. Anyway, toward...
by dfwcre8tive
11 Dec 2017 19:11
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square
Replies: 102
Views: 12995

Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

I visited Thanksgiving Square today for probably the first time in almost 40 years. Absolutely disgusting and embarrassing. They need to just lock the gates. I take it the chair and lights initiative success hasn't lived on? The chairs/tables are still in place, though someone broke all the "d...
by dfwcre8tive
11 Dec 2017 16:51
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square
Replies: 102
Views: 12995

Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

There are actually very many current forum member names displayed on a wall at Thanks-Giving Square near the office entrance thanks to Noah's initiatives. People who have donated. This is a place that is particularly special to so many, and, it is well-known that there are issues. It has been worse...
by dfwcre8tive
11 Dec 2017 16:37
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square
Replies: 102
Views: 12995

Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Primarily from the dog waste and surrounding dog owners, or more? The first thing you see walking in the west entrance is the gravel area covered in dog waste. Not one of the water features was working. What are supposed to be grassy areas are as much mud as grass. Lots of dead vegetation. The wate...
by dfwcre8tive
11 Dec 2017 16:14
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square
Replies: 102
Views: 12995

Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Phillip Johnson was such a hack. I don't think Thanksgiving Square can be saved from the incredibly stupid design choices. Why not bulldoze it and start over? Hell, with so many other parks going in why not just sell it to someone so they can put a new tower on the site? You have to remember that t...
by dfwcre8tive
11 Dec 2017 16:02
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square
Replies: 102
Views: 12995

Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

When I worked downtown, Thanks-Giving Square was an automatic go-to for dog-walkers. They didn't try to go anywhere else. A few years ago there was a survey/count and it was estimated that there are about 800 dog visits to the space per day. The three residential properties (LTV, Mosaic, Republic) ...
by dfwcre8tive
11 Dec 2017 15:55
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square
Replies: 102
Views: 12995

Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Raising money from a lot of small donors has a low chance of success without a lead donor. The park needs to find an invidual or corporation to lead the renovation, and even grant naming rights if necessary. Kelcy Warren for KWP, Robert Decherd for the Belo Gardens and the recently approved parks, ...
by dfwcre8tive
11 Dec 2017 15:46
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square
Replies: 102
Views: 12995

Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

jrd1964 wrote:CTroy, I'll have to find the pic, but the donor list sign has a typo. I don't remember what it was off-hand.


If you remember, let me know. I will take a closer look as well.
by dfwcre8tive
10 Dec 2017 01:24
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square
Replies: 102
Views: 12995

Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Sharing a few Philip Johnson photos and sketches I found in the archive recently. Many pieces will be digitized and placed on the Portal to Texas History in coming months (funded through a grant).

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by dfwcre8tive
10 Dec 2017 01:08
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square
Replies: 102
Views: 12995

Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

I visited Thanksgiving Square today for probably the first time in almost 40 years. Absolutely disgusting and embarrassing. They need to just lock the gates. Primarily from the dog waste and surrounding dog owners, or more? The main fountain was cleaned a few weeks ago and the giant sediment tank e...
by dfwcre8tive
10 Dec 2017 00:55
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square
Replies: 102
Views: 12995

Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Yep! There was a re-do in the works, but that just disappeared. It needs to be completely gutted and rebuilt. The rejuvenation is still planned, but can't proceed until funds are raised (apart from operating funds). The first step is finalizing the construction documents with the City of Dallas. In...
by dfwcre8tive
08 Dec 2017 13:48
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: 508 Young Street (old Dallas Morning News building)
Replies: 0
Views: 637

Downtown Dallas: 508 Young Street (old Dallas Morning News building)

Here's an interesting look at some of the abandoned spaces in the building now that Dallas Morning News has vacated the facility. Link: https://www.guidelive.com/dallas/2017/12/08/photos-inside-dallas-morning-news-offices-now-vacant-haunted-creepy#_ga=2.197672623.1094811187.1512679304-1898294398.150...
by dfwcre8tive
01 Dec 2017 23:20
Forum: Urban Development
Topic: Downtown Dallas: Retail
Replies: 199
Views: 24816

Re: Downtown Dallas: Retail

I'm a little confused as to where this new retail would go. I'm not too familiar with the building, so I'm not sure where the carport is, but are we just talking about the glassed portion of the building here: https://www.google.com/maps/place/The+Adolphus/@32.7797639,-96.7995894,3a,75y,355.13h,84....
by dfwcre8tive
28 Nov 2017 12:55
Forum: The Parks, Trails, + Miscellaneous Infrastructure
Topic: Downtown pocket plazas
Replies: 13
Views: 2515

Re: Downtown pocket plazas

The new sign is a bit of overkill, especially when you have no idea what this MMA ring in the center is supposed to be, but there it is. IMG_2301.jpg Overkill and ugly. Aluminum is easy to maintain and keep clean, but if it has to be that big at least include some information on why the plaza is th...

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